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  • vidbid
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    Multilayer Circuit Board Concept

    Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
    Hello Guys, Hello Vidbid,

    Michael is right Guys...I posted that also on my Thread, after Vid introduce this CORE Tech...

    Look at Capstan Motors for NEW Generation Tape Camcorders...don't go that far to the 70's...please!

    I do not have the time to do that search...or load pic's here etc...but I have them...and I know them well.

    You will see printed circuit boards stators, with some nicely layered coils within board...also they are AXIAL, NOT RADIAL...So it is worthless to compare an OLD Radial type VCR versus a freshly made 2014 Brushless Higher Tech.

    Related to a "Motor of the Future"...it is far to be a Motor of the "Future"...please give me regeneration while accelerating...give me very small battery packs that look ridiculously small compared to motor size...that, to my understanding are Technologies of the Future for Electrodynamics.

    I see a very nice compacted whole motor, I see an improvement by having "printed coils" layered down in very compact levels...but think what would happen if just one single fine copper line gets burnt/separated?...got no other choice but to order a new one right?...then, you will have to buy the whole thing...maybe even included mounted sensors...plus connectors, etc,etc.

    I went to their site (btw very slow to watch videos, and run)...not even single whole motors available to buy separated as parts...maybe they are too new...let's give them the "benefit of the doubt"...

    So far they are advertising their motors (mainly) for Lawn Equipment (light line) and electric bicycles... wonder how would they perform as Hub Motors for Higher weight EV's.


    Regards


    Ufopolitics

    Thanks, UFO, for sharing your thoughts on this design. I will agree with you that this CORE design somewhat resembles the next-generation of capstan motors employing a printed circuit stator design.

    What is striking to me is CORE's multilayer circuit-board concept and circuit design.

    Here are some other examples of printed circuit stators:







    Regards,

    VIDBID

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  • Ufopolitics
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    Hello Vidbid

    Hello Guys, Hello Vidbid,

    Michael is right Guys...I posted that also on my Thread, after Vid introduce this CORE Tech...

    Look at Capstan Motors for NEW Generation Tape Camcorders...don't go that far to the 70's...please!

    I do not have the time to do that search...or load pic's here etc...but I have them...and I know them well.

    You will see printed circuit boards stators, with some nicely layered coils within board...also they are AXIAL, NOT RADIAL...So it is worthless to compare an OLD Radial type VCR versus a freshly made 2014 Brushless Higher Tech.

    Related to a "Motor of the Future"...it is far to be a Motor of the "Future"...please give me regeneration while accelerating...give me very small battery packs that look ridiculously small compared to motor size...that, to my understanding are Technologies of the Future for Electrodynamics.

    I see a very nice compacted whole motor, I see an improvement by having "printed coils" layered down in very compact levels...but think what would happen if just one single fine copper line gets burnt/separated?...got no other choice but to order a new one right?...then, you will have to buy the whole thing...maybe even included mounted sensors...plus connectors, etc,etc.

    I went to their site (btw very slow to watch videos, and run)...not even single whole motors available to buy separated as parts...maybe they are too new...let's give them the "benefit of the doubt"...

    So far they are advertising their motors (mainly) for Lawn Equipment (light line) and electric bicycles... wonder how would they perform as Hub Motors for Higher weight EV's.


    Regards


    Ufopolitics

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  • Berg
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    CORE Lawnmower

    CORE has developed a lawnmower using the CORE technology.



    Also, check out their CORE controller, as pictured below.



    And, check out how their magnets are made:



    It's all pretty exciting.

    Berg

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  • vidbid
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    Nice Try



    Core Outdoor Power



    Lincoln Jore and Matt Jore came up with the idea of eliminating the wire windings and iron laminations used in conventional motors by embedding copper-etched conductors into a multi-layered printed circuit board to form a stator that works in conjunction with permanent magnets to produce torque in a new type of ironless and wireless motor. They created a special pattern of conductive material, laid out on individual layers of conductive material, and laminated and interconnected to each other to form an efficient, compact, and powerful stator. After six years of development by the Jores and Core Motion, Inc.

    Source:


    as compared to..






    the prior art of the VCR capstan motor





    Regards,

    VIDBID
    Last edited by vidbid; 06-22-2014, 05:17 PM. Reason: update

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  • Berg
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    VCR Capstan Motor Comparison

    Originally posted by Michael John Nunnerley View Post
    If you take apart a VCR you will find that these motors have been used for many years, nothing new, I have one here, it came out of a 1990's VCR as the capstan drive motor.

    The only difference maybe the winding design on the printed circuit board, but it is very very similar to the photos posted.

    regards

    Mike
    That would seem like a pretty big difference.

    If you look at the patent filed in 2004, you'll see that CORE is different.

    For instance, the new motor has a programmable CORE controller.



    The VCR capstan motor pictured above looks more like the motor in the E-mag as pictured below, which to me looks like it is based on a VCR capstan motor.



    Source: Palladium Magnetic Generator by Platinum Invests, May 2014 - YouTube

    Source: Directory:E-MAG Magnetic Propulsion Engine by Platinum Invests Group Corporation S.A. - PESWiki.



    Source: Platinum Invests Group Corporation |

    Berg
    Last edited by Berg; 06-22-2014, 03:21 PM. Reason: update

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  • Michael John Nunnerley
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    If you take apart a VCR you will find that these motors have been used for many years, nothing new, I have one here, it came out of a 1990's VCR as the capstan drive motor.

    The only difference maybe the winding design on the printed circuit board, but it is very very similar to the photos posted.

    regards

    Mike

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  • Midaztouch
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    PCB Core is very interesting. They are using it in Boulder wind generators. It's like a multi phase induction motor; light weight, cost effective, efficient system. 1000hp and 1200 LB FT torque


    Boulder Wind Power | Technology


    Keep it Clean and Green
    Midaz
    Last edited by Midaztouch; 06-22-2014, 07:04 PM.

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  • vidbid
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    Is this the Motor of the Future?








    Source:
    Core Outdoor Power - GasLess powered outdoor lawn and garden equipment - YouTube

    New CORE Products Introduced at 2012 GIE Expo - YouTube

    What drives the CORE motor technology? What Drives CORE's Quiet Gasless Motors - Popular Mechanics

    The New Electric Motor: Iron less and Wire less - Revolution-Green

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    Regards,

    VIDBID
    Last edited by vidbid; 06-22-2014, 06:45 AM. Reason: update

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  • CORE GasLess Power - Intelligent Technology to Replace Gas



    A friend of mine told me about this new motor design by Lincoln M Jore and Matthew B Jore. It's amazing to look at.

    Patent: https://www.google.com/patents/US7109625

    Company Website: Core Outdoor Power

    Regards,

    VIDBID
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