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  • Originally posted by aljhoa View Post
    All persons in this picture are dead including the son of the thirteen-year-old mother.



    Al


    Truman on CIA: We have created a gestapo in the United States

    Dec. 22, 1963: Former president Truman called for abolition of CIA

    What would have Truman said on 9/11 if he had lived so long to be a witness of that horror?
    Last edited by cikljamas; 05-06-2014, 07:02 PM.
    "There is no love without prayer - there is no prayer without forgiveness because love is prayer - forgiveness is love." Virgin Marry - Immaculate Conception ...The geologists say it's not in the ground, the airforce says it's not in the air, the astronomers say it's not from space, so we are running out of options...

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    • Originally posted by cikljamas View Post
      Although i know that one of their favorite modus operandi (methods of operation) is to distract those who know how to think with their own heads (and do not afraid of doing it), i wouldn't say that in this particular case we could/should recognize that sort of method of operation...

      We could agree or not in details (about 9/11 event) but if we are mature-adult persons it shouldn't yield up any kind of distraction among us, on the other hand: if we were stupid idiots then we wouldn't be able to attain any agreement on anything and/or to keep up with our mutual attitude on the main point of this issue which is that this was an inside job...

      The bottom line regarding 9/11 event is that if they can get away with this then the sky is the limit for them!

      Let look back (in the past) for a moment and consider this:

      The most famous description of Stalin's Terror is The Gulag Archipelago, by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn.

      One reviewer writes:

      'Drawing on his own experience before, during and after his eleven years of imprisonment and exile, on evidence provided by more than 200 fellow prisoners, and on Soviet archives, Solzhenitsyn reveals the entire apparatus of Soviet repression - the secret police operations, the labor camps and prisons, the uprooting or extermination of whole populations.

      Amazon Review:

      "Its importance can hardly be exaggerated," said Doris Lessing. "It helped to bring down an empire." Solzhenitsyn's scorching, brilliant, part-autobiographical expose of the dreary oppressiveness and institutionalised cruelty of the Soviet regime, really did contribute to the final collapse of the Union in 1989. It also exposed how, if Hitler had the deaths of well over 6 million on his hands, the figure for Stalin might be nearer 60 million. This is not only history-in-the-making, but also an absolutely compulsive read (especially in this 400-page version abridged from the 1800 pages of the three-volume original.) One of the very few undeniable books of the century. --Christopher Hart





      An amazing aspect of the Show Trails was that the accused often pleaded guilty to crimes they could not possibly have done.

      'The worst aspect of the Terror was not the deaths, but the stultifying effect it had on the everyday life of ordinary people'

      Now tell me your opinion on stultifying effect that 9/11 event had on the everyday life of ordinary american citizen?

      Tell me your opinion on the immobility of american nation which is enslaved and oppressed by those 0,1 percent of american lords who rule over entire world not just over entire american nation that once upon a time has been so proud, so self-respectful nation that the whole world has admired enviously...

      Americans, who killed your proud, who took away your freedom, who murdered 3000 of your fellow citizens?

      Every one of these 3000 souls cries out to heaven for vengeance!

      You have to find out how to get rid of these 0,1 % of super maniacs who pull us all into the abyss of no return, you have to!

      You have to revenge 3000 innocent american souls, for God sake!!!

      You have to become free people again!!! And you know it is the conditio sine qua non of your dignity and honor which has been vaporised-pulverised-dustified by dustification and pulverisation of WTC towers!!!

      Let God help us all!
      I fully agree with you but it isn't happening with 911, like with Capone, it will be something else that gets them, and when it does, 911 will be the stake through their black hearts.

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      • Getting the Big Picture

        Originally posted by cikljamas View Post



        What would have Truman said on 9/11 if he had lived so long to be a witness of that horror?
        Thank you, We get the picture. These guys are gangsters. They have cut off the worlds life blood, she is going belly up while these guys buy it for pennies. These guys are freaks who hate regular folks.

        Their RULE OF LAW is kill, destroy and murder. They are open professing high level Masonic Baphomet lovers.

        Mike
        Last edited by BroMikey; 05-07-2014, 08:18 AM.

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        • Let me remind us how it all began:

          The belief that the Earth is rotating on an "axis" and orbiting the sun is THE GRANDADDY OF ALL DECEPTIONS IN THE WORLD TODAY...


          Launched from its modern founder's deathbed in 1543, the Copernican Revolution ushered in a movement that has totally reshaped and re-directed ALL of man's knowledge (See Below Article: Exposing The Copernican Deception: The Cataclysmic Impact On Every Field Of Modern Man’s Knowledge)

          The Christian Bible (and the Koran!) declare the earth to be motionless. The mathematical Copernican model says the earth rotates on an "axis" (at over 1000 MPH) orbits the sun (at 30 times rifle bullet speed), and is whooshing around a galaxy (at 250 times rifle bullet speed) .....all at the same time.

          Over the centuries, superstars in the physical sciences established the Copernican model as an unchallenged fact. This success paved the way for conquest of the biological sciences (Darwin et al). This transvaluation of values and philosophy (Nietzsche et al) then quickly spread to the social and behavioral sciences (Marx, Freud et al), to mathematics (Einstein et al), the Arts (Picasso et al), Education (Dewey et al), and so on through today's media reinforcement of all of the above. ..As the 21st Century gets its feet wet, man's "knowledge" is almost totally secularized and the Bible all but ignored as the source of absolute Truth from God Himself. ..The "sciences" reign supreme, and they do so because of the victory of Copernicanism over the Bible's motionless earth.

          In his preface to the creationist textbook Biology: A Search for Order in Complexity, John N. Moore says that “true science” requires that the data “simply be presented as it is,” and that “a philosophic viewpoint regarding origins” cannot be science.9

          One prominent geocentrist, astronomer and computer scientist James N. Hanson, shows more candor. In a public lecture, he said of non-geocentric astronomers, “They lie a lot.”11 Charles K. Johnson, president of the Flat Earth Society, is absolutely vehement about scientific dishonesty. He regularly calls scientists “liars” and “demented dope fiends” and claims that the entire space program is a “carnie game.”12

          Unlike most Christians, Bible-Scientists insist that if conventional science is true, the Bible must be false.
          Flat-earther John Hampden put it plainly: “No one can believe a single doctrine or dogma of modern astronomy, and accept Scriptures as divine revelation.”13

          Since flat-earthism is the paradigm of Bible-Science, it should be discussed first. It’s difficult to see how the scientific creationists, some of whom claim to discern the laws of thermodynamics in the Bible, can fail to see its flat-earth implications.

          While the Bible doesn’t flatly state the shape of the earth, it repeatedly says in plain Hebrew that the earth is immovable.26








          cnn - george w bush "either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists"


          John Lennon, CIA, Flat Earth and the Position of the Sun in the Sky

          “I'm sick and tired of hearing things
          From uptight, short-sighted, narrow-minded hypocrites
          All I want is the truth
          Just gimme some truth

          I've had enough of reading things
          By neurotic, psychotic, pig-headed politicians
          All I want is the truth
          Just gimme some truth”

          John Lennon: Gimme Some Truth!



          "There is no love without prayer - there is no prayer without forgiveness because love is prayer - forgiveness is love." Virgin Marry - Immaculate Conception ...The geologists say it's not in the ground, the airforce says it's not in the air, the astronomers say it's not from space, so we are running out of options...

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          • Since you guys still sleep, i am going to do some off-topic here:

            Or, in other words, as one degree is a 360th part of the sun's whole path over the earth, so is the period of four minutes a 360th part of the whole twenty-four hours which the sun requires to complete

            p. 254

            its course: therefore, whatever space on the earth is contained between any two points, where the sun is on the meridian at twelve o'clock and at four minutes past twelve, will be one degree of longitude. If we know the proximate distance between any two places, in the south, on or about the same latitude, and have the difference of solar time at these two places, we can calculate, accordingly, the length of a degree of longitude at that latitude. Such elements we have from the map, recently published, of New Zealand, in the "Australian Handbook, Almanack, and Shippers' and Importers' Directory, for the Year 1872." 1 It is there stated that the distance (mail route) between Sydney and Nelson is 1400 miles (sea measure), equal to 1633 statute miles. From this distance it is proper to deduct fully 50 miles for the distance in rounding Cape Farewell and sailing up Tasman Bay, at the head of which Nelson is situated. But if we allow 83 miles, which is more than sufficient, we have the straight-line distance, from the meridian of Sydney to the meridian of Nelson, as 1550 statute miles. The two places are nearly on the same latitude, and the difference in longitude is 22° 2´ 14″. 2 The whole matter now becomes a mere arithmetical question: if 22° 2´ 14″ give 1550 statute miles, what will 360° give? The answer is 25,182 miles. Hence, a 360th part of this distance is one degree; and the length of such degree is nearly 70 miles. But upon a globe, such as modern astronomers affirm the earth

            p. 255

            to be, the length of a degree at the latitude of Sydney would be 49.74 nautical miles, or 58 statute miles. Hence we find that the actual length of a degree of longitude at the latitude of Sydney is nearly 12 miles longer than it could possibly be if the earth is a globe of 25,000 miles' equatorial or maximum circumference; and the distance round the earth, at that latitude, is 25,182 statute miles, instead of 20,920, the difference between theory and fact being 4262 miles.

            If, now, we take, from the same map, the distance between Melbourne and Bluff Harbour, South New Zealand--1400 nautical, or 1633 statute miles--and take the difference of longitude between the two places, allowing 50 statute miles for the angular or diagonal direction of the route to Bluff Harbour, we find the degrees of longitude fully 70 statute miles; whereas, at the average latitude of the two places, viz., 42° S., the degrees, if the earth is a globe, would be less than 54 statute miles; thus showing that in the south, where the length of a degree of longitude should be 54 miles, it is really 70 miles, or 16 miles longer than would be possible according to the theory of the earth's rotundity.

            From the above two cases we also find that the degrees of longitude at the latitude of Bluff Harbour, on the southern point of New Zealand, are somewhat longer than the degrees between Sydney and Nelson, where they ought to be--if the earth is globular--several miles less; and also that, according to the same doctrine, there is an excess of 7466 statute miles in the whole circumference.
            Well, i did some calculations on above matter and i was compelled to conclude this: If the Earth surface were indeed Flat in the South Pole region wouldn't be possible for anyone to observe so called "polar day"!!! Polar night could be possible but "polar day" would be something completely beyond imagination, in other words "polar day" in Antartica would be utter impossibility!

            So, South Pole is a hoax!

            See this:

            You Have NEVER Seen the Sun Do This! Sun Antics from Neumayer Station,Antarctica

            100% proof that something is wrong. ANTARCTIC John Gorman

            Guess, what is wrong!
            Last edited by cikljamas; 05-07-2014, 07:31 PM.
            "There is no love without prayer - there is no prayer without forgiveness because love is prayer - forgiveness is love." Virgin Marry - Immaculate Conception ...The geologists say it's not in the ground, the airforce says it's not in the air, the astronomers say it's not from space, so we are running out of options...

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            • Originally posted by cikljamas View Post
              Guess, what is wrong!
              Location, location, location...
              Mystery spot: California Part 1 - YouTube


              Al

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              • Vortex

                Originally posted by aljhoa View Post
                Location, location, location...
                Mystery spot: California Part 1 - YouTube


                Al
                Lay lines vortex are the only things coming to mind.
                Great vid.

                Mike

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                • There were more than one hypocrite (Oliver Stone):



                  Translation of above translation: “If I were to remain silent, I'd be guilty of complicity.”
                  ― Albert Einstein

                  What do i mean?

                  Here it is:

                  Albert Einstein has been called a Jewish saint, with sarcasm by the Nazis, with reverence by many others. He deserves the appellation for his stance against militarism, his fight for Peace, his hatred of racism and oppression, for his praiseworthy modesty in the face of a world determined to dub him the greatest scientist who ever lived, endlessly referred to by an adulatory Press and public as the new Kepler, the new Newton.

                  But was there a dark side lurking behind the smiling iconic face of the famous scientist, the ‘poster-boy’ whose photo for 50 years was so prevalent on T-shirts and covers of Time Magazine – a side as cold and dark as the planets of outer space? Surely not! Not the impish scientist who stuck his tongue out at photographers! The man who in 1931 was given a peace pipe at the Hopi Indian Reservation near the Grand Canyon and, with an unconscious pun (we assume), called by them ‘Great Relative’? Who at the age of 70, famous beyond measure, happily accepted honorary membership in the Chicago Plumbers And Sanitary Engineers Union?

                  I am certain there was.

                  After months of research I conclude Albert Einstein, less than two years after Lieserl’s birth, consented to, even instigated her murder. Such a killing, however merciful in intent, would be utterly against the tenets of the Jewish religion. However, Albert Einstein, though culturally a Jew, was not religious in the Orthodox meaning of the word. He did not believe in traditional notions of a personal God. When a New York Rabbi sent him a telegram in 1929 asking him ‘Do you believe in God? Stop. Answer paid. 50 words’, Einstein’s reply took nowhere near the 50 words: ‘I believe in Spinoza’s God, Who reveals Himself in the lawful harmony of the world, not in a God Who concerns Himself with the fate and the doings of mankind’.

                  In ‘Einstein, His Life And Universe’, published in 2007, author Walter Isaacson writes ‘All evidence about Einstein’s daughter was carefully erased. Almost every one of the letters between Einstein and Marić in the summer and fall of 1902, many of which presumably dealt with Lieserl, were destroyed. Those between Marić and her friend Helene Savić during that period were intentionally burned by Savić’s family. For the rest of their lives, even after they divorced, Einstein and his wife did all they could, with surprising success, to cover up not only the fate of their first child but her very existence.’

                  Although Helene was born in Vienna, her husband’s family were Serbs. Serbia was extremely proud of the fact its daughter Mileva had married the most famous man in the world. Nothing would be permitted to sully her reputation, certainly not a revelation about an illegitimate daughter.

                  Once the Savić family burnt intimate letters between Mileva and Helene, the conspiracy of silence was complete, the Pandora’s jar sealed.

                  The jar would not be unsealed for another 83 years, long after all the players in the piece were themselves dead.

                  Albert Einstein Mystery « ‘A Vital Detail In The Story Of Albert Einstein’ « Page 23

                  23 Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples, 2 “The teachers of religious law and the Pharisees are the official interpreters of the law of Moses.[a] 3 So practice and obey whatever they tell you, but don’t follow their example. For they don’t practice what they teach. 4 They crush people with unbearable religious demands and never lift a finger to ease the burden.
                  5 “Everything they do is for show. On their arms they wear extra wide prayer boxes with Scripture verses inside, and they wear robes with extra long tassels.[b] 6 And they love to sit at the head table at banquets and in the seats of honor in the synagogues. 7 They love to receive respectful greetings as they walk in the marketplaces, and to be called ‘Rabbi.’[c]
                  8 “Don’t let anyone call you ‘Rabbi,’ for you have only one teacher, and all of you are equal as brothers and sisters.[d] 9 And don’t address anyone here on earth as ‘Father,’ for only God in heaven is your spiritual Father. 10 And don’t let anyone call you ‘Teacher,’ for you have only one teacher, the Messiah. 11 The greatest among you must be a servant. 12 But those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.
                  What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Hypocrites! For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens,[g] but you ignore the more important aspects of the law—justice, mercy, and faith. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things. 24 Blind guides! You strain your water so you won’t accidentally swallow a gnat, but you swallow a camel![h]
                  25 “What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Hypocrites! For you are so careful to clean the outside of the cup and the dish, but inside you are filthy—full of greed and self-indulgence! 26 You blind Pharisee! First wash the inside of the cup and the dish,[i] and then the outside will become clean, too.
                  27 “What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs—beautiful on the outside but filled on the inside with dead people’s bones and all sorts of impurity. 28 Outwardly you look like righteous people, but inwardly your hearts are filled with hypocrisy and lawlessness.
                  29 “What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Hypocrites! For you build tombs for the prophets your ancestors killed, and you decorate the monuments of the godly people your ancestors destroyed. 30 Then you say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our ancestors, we would never have joined them in killing the prophets.’
                  31 “But in saying that, you testify against yourselves that you are indeed the descendants of those who murdered the prophets. 32 Go ahead and finish what your ancestors started. 33 Snakes! Sons of vipers! How will you escape the judgment of hell?
                  34 “Therefore, I am sending you prophets and wise men and teachers of religious law. But you will kill some by crucifixion, and you will flog others with whips in your synagogues, chasing them from city to city. 35 As a result, you will be held responsible for the murder of all godly people of all time—from the murder of righteous Abel to the murder of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you killed in the Temple between the sanctuary and the altar. 36 I tell you the truth, this judgment will fall on this very generation.

                  Jesus' words to the Pharisees (hypocrites)
                  "There is no love without prayer - there is no prayer without forgiveness because love is prayer - forgiveness is love." Virgin Marry - Immaculate Conception ...The geologists say it's not in the ground, the airforce says it's not in the air, the astronomers say it's not from space, so we are running out of options...

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                  • Gentlemen Please!

                    I leave you for a few hours and your full on squabbling about the distraction.

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                    • Originally posted by mbrownn View Post
                      Gentlemen Please!

                      I leave you for a few hours and your full on squabbling about the distraction.
                      I suppose you think that there is no difference if someone believes in personal God (God of Bible) or god of Spinoza or nothing at all? If you believe in god of Spinoza then that is theological and philosophical distraction. When you philosophically and theologically distract people then the sky is limit regarding all sorts of possible manipulations with human being which (because of the interpretation of God as a mere "power of nature" or something like that) soon becomes something completely different than that (human being) as we could have seen many times through history and as we see especially in our contemporary world...

                      Einstein was a fraud all the way through (as scientist and as a man), and in my last post i have illustrated his quality as a man.

                      Here is another example of that kind:

                      According to Lanouette, Albert Einstein, who had no direct involvement with the Manhattan Project, said, "My only activity in creating this weapon was to be Leo Szilard's mailbox."

                      Well, was this Einstein's statement distraction (lying) of a hypocrite or not?

                      See for yourself:
                      How Albert Einstein Helped Blackmail President Roosevelt Over Manhattan Project Funding

                      After the war, Szilard continued his efforts to stem the rising tide of nuclear weapons. He often spoke in public, and authored a number of satires, including one in 1947 titled "My Trial As a War Criminal."

                      That short story describes how, after the Russians won World War III, they rounded up all of the people who worked on the atomic bomb, including Szilard, and put them on trial as war criminals.

                      "It was his way of pointing out that scientists do have responsibilities for their effects," Lanouette said.


                      Although it was satire it is obvious that these guys felt a tremendous guilt and their responsibility for Hiroshima and Nagasaki genocide is even greater than the responsibility of Truman himself!!!

                      Einstein never admitted his truest blunders, he just ones admitted one insignificant theoretical blunder, and that is hypocrisy!

                      I do not judge anyone (who am i to judge anyone?), i do not assert that i am better man than any other man (who am i to assert something like that?), i am just trying to figure out why humanity reached this high point (of ultimate IMMORALITY) of no return...

                      Liar is a thief, and the thief is a murderer, remember?

                      Gimme some truth!
                      Last edited by cikljamas; 05-09-2014, 01:58 PM.
                      "There is no love without prayer - there is no prayer without forgiveness because love is prayer - forgiveness is love." Virgin Marry - Immaculate Conception ...The geologists say it's not in the ground, the airforce says it's not in the air, the astronomers say it's not from space, so we are running out of options...

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                      • 1945 - Hiroshima, Japan

                        A priest and seven others survived the nuclear bomb that was dropped on Japan and had devastating effects during the Second World War.

                        Even though they lived near ground zero, much to scientists amazement these survivors were free from all harm caused by radiation even years later.

                        What was different about this group of people compared to other nearby victims?

                        Devotion to the Rosary.

                        They prayed the Rosary together daily.

                        Description of Fatima: The Great Sign by Francis Johnston

                        "When the atomic bomb destroyed Hiroshima in 1945, eight men living near the blinding centre of the nuclear flash miraculously survived the searing hurricane of blast and gamma rays, while everyone within a mile radius perished and other residing further afield continue to die from the lethal effects of radiation.

                        For over thirty years, some two hundred scientists have examined these eight men, trying in vain to determine what could have preserved them from incineration. One of the survivors, Fr. H. Shiffner, S.J. gave this dramatic answer: 'In that house, we were living the message of Fatima.'"
                        "There is no love without prayer - there is no prayer without forgiveness because love is prayer - forgiveness is love." Virgin Marry - Immaculate Conception ...The geologists say it's not in the ground, the airforce says it's not in the air, the astronomers say it's not from space, so we are running out of options...

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                        • Originally posted by cikljamas View Post
                          For over thirty years, some two hundred scientists have examined these eight men, trying in vain to determine what could have preserved them from incineration. One of the survivors, Fr. H. Shiffner, S.J. gave this dramatic answer: 'In that house, we were living the message of Fatima.'"
                          But did they procreate?

                          Al

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                          • Fudging Data

                            Originally posted by aljhoa View Post
                            But did they procreate?

                            Al
                            For over 40yrs I have researched these lies. Bleeding hands and ghosts of MARY in the clouds with great power.

                            All coming from the Jesuit order. How stupid do I look?

                            Proof of a miracle, an exaggeration, or an unholy FRAUD?, page 1


                            Bleeding picture of Pedra Pio.

                            Lies. Look deeper.

                            Hiroshima, Hell & Philadelphia Pedophilia

                            Their RULE OF LAW

                            Mike
                            Last edited by BroMikey; 05-10-2014, 08:06 PM.

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                            • Documents

                              Luzzatto is getting all his information from the Vatican archives and apparently everyone was well aware of the allegations of fraud:

                              The allegations are not new: two successive popes regarded Padre Pio as a fraud. By 1920, when Pio was 33 and was already exhibiting his scars before masses of pilgrims, the church was worried that his cult was spinning out of control. Reports commissioned by the church claimed Pio regularly scourged himself with a metal-tipped whip, and had sex with women twice a week. For many years Pio was banned from celebrating mass in public.

                              Of particular concern to the church were the ugly, weeping wounds which Pio concealed under those fingerless gloves. The friar claimed that he had received the stigmata of Christ – wounds to his hands, feet and side like those suffered by Christ during his crucifixion – at the culmination of a mystical seizure.

                              A doctor sent by the Vatican to examine them concluded that the wounds were probably caused and maintained artificially. To test the hypothesis he bound the wounds and sealed the bandage to prevent it being tampered with. But on examination a month later the doctor was nonplussed to find that the wounds had failed to heal.

                              Source: The Independent

                              Padre Pio wouldn't be the first member of the Catholic Church — or the first friar — who was at first rejected by the establishment but later embraced after developing a tremendous popularity that threatened established lines of authority. The question is, what role did Pio's popularity play in the Vatican's decision to embrace and later canonize him? If they hadn't, the cult surrounding him might have created problems for Vatican leaders themselves. It's arguably better to incorporate such a person and his followers into the established system than to allow them room to develop outside their control.

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                              • carbolic acid

                                “The boys in the Seraphic College could not understand why their instructor seemed to be hiding
                                his hands under his garments during the classes that he was teaching. The Father Guardian, Padre Paolino, noticed that Pio appeared to be covering up red spots on his hands with the sleeves of his habit. However, he was not too concerned since he and Padre Pio had recently received burns on their hands from carbolic acid. The boys had needed
                                injections to fight the Spanish Flu which was raging at that time. Due to a shortage of doctors, Padres Paolino and Pio administered the shots, using carbolic acid as a sterilizing agent.”

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