The rule of law or not

[mbrownn]

This whole thing…this tradeoff of security for freedom is upsetting to me. It’s a wicked balance.

Ben Franklin pointed that out a long time ago. You don’t trade…you can never have security. You have to live with insecurity. You have to accept that as a grown adult. You have to live with this idea of fear. We’re always scared, the American people. Going back to what I said earlier: it’s the bully who’s scared in the end. That’s why he has to get the most weapons. That’s why he has to get guns. That’s why he’s got to walk around shooting people left and right. I’m more terrified of American citizens than I am of Arabs, frankly. It’s the nut in the street who’s gonna get you.

I think we’re unbalanced in some psychological way. As John-Paul Sartre said a long time ago—and King said it again—we’re a sick country. We have rabies. We need a vaccine. Oliver Stone

Read more: Oliver Stone on the Tyranny of Obama’s ‘Exceptional’ America

Remember what you think is security may be very different from what politicians are talking about when they say it. If you read the difference between the two definitions below you may understand what I mean. The first one is probably how most people understand security. The second has some more sinister meanings. Note that the second one is Websters and how freedom was put into the definition to make you associate freedom with security. I also highlighted in red how politicians think of security and please note the slightly different wording. In legal terms this can make a big difference.

security (sɪˈkjʊərɪtɪ)
n, pl -ties
1. the state of being secure
2. assured freedom from poverty or want: he needs the security of a permanent job.
3. a person or thing that secures, guarantees, etc
4. precautions taken to ensure against theft, espionage, etc: the security in the government offices was not very good.
5. (Banking & Finance) (often plural)
a. a certificate of creditorship or property carrying the right to receive interest or dividend, such as shares or bonds
b. the financial asset represented by such a certificate
6. (Banking & Finance) the specific asset that a creditor can claim title to in the event of default on an obligation
7. (Law) something given or pledged to secure the fulfilment of a promise or obligation
8. (Law) a person who undertakes to fulfil another person's obligation
9. (Computer Science) the protection of data to ensure that only authorized personnel have access to computer files
10. carelessness or overconfidence


se·cu·ri·ty (sĭ-kyo͝or′ĭ-tē)
n. pl. se·cu·ri·ties
1. Freedom from risk or danger; safety.
2. Freedom from doubt, anxiety, or fear; confidence.
3. Something that gives or assures safety, as:
a. A group or department of private guards: Call building security if a visitor acts suspicious.
b. Measures adopted by a government to prevent espionage, sabotage, or attack.
c. Measures adopted, as by a business or homeowner, to prevent a crime such as burglary or assault: Security was lax at the firm's smaller plant.
d. Measures adopted to prevent escape: Security in the prison is very tight.
4. Something deposited or given as assurance of the fulfillment of an obligation; a pledge.
5. One who undertakes to fulfill the obligation of another; a surety.
6. A document indicating ownership or creditorship; a stock certificate or bond.

Freedom is the diametric opposite of the modern meaning of security.



se·cu·ri·ty (sĭ-kyo͝or′ĭ-tē)
n. pl. se·cu·ri·ties
1. Freedom from risk or danger; safety.
2. Freedom from doubt, anxiety, or fear; confidence.
3. Something that gives or assures safety, as:
a. A group or department of private guards: Call building security if a visitor acts suspicious.
b. Measures adopted by a government to prevent espionage, sabotage, or attack.
c. Measures adopted, as by a business or homeowner, to prevent a crime such as burglary or assault: Security was lax at the firm's smaller plant.
d. Measures adopted to prevent escape: Security in the prison is very tight.
4. Something deposited or given as assurance of the fulfillment of an obligation; a pledge.
5. One who undertakes to fulfill the obligation of another; a surety.
6. A document indicating ownership or creditorship; a stock certificate or bond.
[Middle English securite, from Old French, from Latin sēcūritās, from sēcūrus, secure; see secure.]

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2009. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
security (sɪˈkjʊərɪtɪ)
n, pl -ties
1. the state of being secure
2. assured freedom from poverty or want: he needs the security of a permanent job.
3. a person or thing that secures, guarantees, etc
4. precautions taken to ensure against theft, espionage, etc: the security in the government offices was not very good.
5. (Banking & Finance) (often plural)
a. a certificate of creditorship or property carrying the right to receive interest or dividend, such as shares or bonds
b. the financial asset represented by such a certificate
6. (Banking & Finance) the specific asset that a creditor can claim title to in the event of default on an obligation
7. (Law) something given or pledged to secure the fulfilment of a promise or obligation
8. (Law) a person who undertakes to fulfil another person's obligation
9. (Computer Science) the protection of data to ensure that only authorized personnel have access to computer files
10. carelessness or overconfidence

I have just added a third definition because i remembered a point. The use of capital letters has legal meanings too and can change a perceived meaning.

se•cu•ri•ty (sɪˈkyʊər ɪ ti)

n., pl. -ties,
adj. n.
1. freedom from danger, risk, etc.; safety.
2. freedom from care, anxiety, or doubt.
3. something that protects or makes safe; defense.
4. freedom from financial cares.
5. precautions taken to guard against crime, sabotage, etc.
6. a department or organization responsible for protection or safety.
7. precautions taken against escape: to be held in maximum security.
8. an assurance; guarantee.
9.
a. something given as surety for the fulfillment of an obligation.
b. a person who becomes surety for another.
10.
a. evidence of property, as a bond or a certificate of stock.
b. securities, stocks and bonds.
11. Archaic. overconfidence; cockiness.
adj.
12. pertaining to security: strict security measures.

[BroMikey]

Dear Kind Sir

This whole thing…this tradeoff of security for freedom is upsetting to me. It’s a wicked balance.

Ben Franklin pointed that out a long time ago. You don’t trade…you can never have security. You have to live with insecurity. You have to accept that as a grown adult. You have to live with this idea of fear. We’re always scared, the American people. Going back to what I said earlier: it’s the bully who’s scared in the end. That’s why he has to get the most weapons. That’s why he has to get guns. That’s why he’s got to walk around shooting people left and right. I’m more terrified of American citizens than I am of Arabs, frankly. It’s the nut in the street who’s gonna get you.

I think we’re unbalanced in some psychological way. As John-Paul Sartre said a long time ago—and King said it again—we’re a sick country. We have rabies. We need a vaccine. Oliver Stone

Read more: Oliver Stone on the Tyranny of Obama’s ‘Exceptional’ America

@cikljamas

I have not said much about "ALL" of your posts lately as we cover these ideas about RULER-SHIP and THE RULE OF LAW. Of course the your posts are highly informative taking considerable time to digest.

I read these posts you put out. You Sir are a real preacher indeed and I can not find any flaws in your delivery.

Generally I can find something that shows that a person didn't realize or understand the expressions of THE KING in one way or another but when you have HIS "RULE OF LAW" written all over your heart a guy just can't miss.

Many claim this status among the so called ranks of hypocritical cHuRchy-anity tooting their horn how righteous they are in their version of THE RULE OF GOD.

It usually centers around the intent that other better bow down and chose their version or be dropped on their heads by a LOVING KING.

I have heard this all my life.

Relig/people act foolish and are easily puppeted.

I find none of these faults in your work.

This leaderships version today of the RULE OF LAW is "Lawlessness" the people have never heard the pure truth.

Keep up the charge. You are directed toward the intellectual minds, let them hear you is what I say.

Mike

[dR-Green]

I fully concur with your postings on psychopaths. I DO think that that they are a genetic mutation which has formed a 'sub-species'; and their #'s, as a % of the total population, is rising dramatically.

They think differently to you therefore must be a genetic mutation?? What makes you think that you are not the mutant?

The apparent "survival of the fittest" as it is used here "independently" is undefinable by itself. The psychopaths are successful relative to the lameness of the rest.

If one goes out hunting for survival, and another sits on his ass and does nothing, then it's not survival of the fittest at all. It's oblivion for the lazy.

[BroMikey]

Rule Of Law

Japanese mafia profit from child pornography - YouTube

Canadian mafia boss found murdered in Sicily - YouTube

Top 10 Biggest Mafias Around the world - YouTube

ILLUMINATI RITUAL & OCCULT WORSHIP on Display at ROTHSCHILD Masquerade - YouTube


Here is one nations RULE OF LAW. All of the rest are the same. The movie cracks me up because they act like this is some newly found crime. This has been going on from the beginning of time.

Mike

[aljhoa]

ILLUMINATI RITUAL & OCCULT WORSHIP on Display at ROTHSCHILD Masquerade - YouTube

"for even the dogs eat the scraps that fall from the table of their masters"

SEX TRAFFICKING AT THE SUPER BOWL - YouTube


Al

[cikljamas]

To be a saint or to be a snake...

Remember what you think is security may be very different from what politicians are talking about when they say it. If you read the difference between the two definitions below you may understand what I mean...

Of course they always find the way (sweet words) how to deceive average spectator (general public), after all aren't they masters of double speaks???

@cikljamas

I have not said much about "ALL" of your posts lately as we cover these ideas about RULER-SHIP and THE RULE OF LAW. Of course the your posts are highly informative taking considerable time to digest.

I read these posts you put out. You Sir are a real preacher indeed and I can not find any flaws in your delivery.

Generally I can find something that shows that a person didn't realize or understand the expressions of THE KING in one way or another but when you have HIS "RULE OF LAW" written all over your heart a guy just can't miss.

Many claim this status among the so called ranks of hypocritical cHuRchy-anity tooting their horn how righteous they are in their version of THE RULE OF GOD.

It usually centers around the intent that other better bow down and chose their version or be dropped on their heads by a LOVING KING.

I have heard this all my life.

Relig/people act foolish and are easily puppeted.

I find none of these faults in your work.

This leaderships version today of the RULE OF LAW is "Lawlessness" the people have never heard the pure truth.

Keep up the charge. You are directed toward the intellectual minds, let them hear you is what I say.

Mike

Thanks Mike!

You didn't find none of these faults in my work, that is because you are intelligent and educated man with great life experience, and nobody can fool guys like you.

One can be intelligent and educated person and he/she can have great life experience too, but there is still one (most important of all) question that we have to consider (before final estimation): is he/she a person of integrity or not?

We are all invited by God to be a persons of highest integrity, saint persons if you will, and that should be the ultimate goal of all human beings.

Our only possible choice is this: To be a saints or to fail as human beings!

Now, i would like to analyze mr Oliver Stone and his integrity.

As Oliver once said: Obama is a snake. O.K., i can't agree more with that. Since mr Stone have called Obama "a snake" then we expect of mr Stone to be much, much different than that (a snake), in other words we expect from mr Stone to be a saint.

How would i define phrase "to be a saint"? TO TELL THE TRUTH ALL THE TIME, ALL THE WAY THROUGH, ALL THE WAY TO THE END!!! THERE IS NO COMPROMISE WITH TRUTH!

To be more precise i could define above phrase in this way: IF YOU TELL JUST HALF OF THE TRUTH THAN YOU ARE ACCOMPLICE IN CRIME OF LAYING.

I could even quote one croatian famous proverb: "A liar is a thief, and a thief is a murderer!"

Now let's back to mr Olive Stone.

Obama lies as soon as he opens his mouth (as most politicians do), and mr Stone is saying the truth all the time, but is he saying the truth all the way trough - all the way to the end?

Let see one excerpt from already linked interview with him:

Question:
But you know the argument I’m making, right? It’s that Obama is as progressive as he can be within the constraints of the American political system.

Answer:
That’s not true. Roosevelt was facing a similar dilemma. Anything he did would be cursed. And he took huge risks. He didn’t go as far as perhaps he could have with the bankers, but he did make big changes. Obama had that mandate. But perhaps he felt he didn’t. Why would you go out and appoint Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State and carry over that old regime? Why would you appoint Robert Gates, who was one of the worst enablers of the CIA, to continue as your defense secretary? Why? Why would you put [Larry] Summers and [Tim] Geithner in on economics when they’re [Robert] Rubin acolytes? I don’t understand. What do you represent?

Question:
It’s interesting that you bring up empathy. For me, that was one of the main themes of The Untold History: trying to see America as others see it.

Answer:
That’s my solution. At the end, I try to bring that home. Kennedy, for example, who understood the nature of war and death because he served. McGovern is overlooked in our series to some degree, but certainly he’s one of my heroes now. Carter in the beginning, certainly. Clinton in the beginning. Obama in the beginning… had tremendous hope. We had hopes for him. Gorbachev is a hero to me. Krushchev is a hero to me.

Untold… I think we could have called it Unlearned. Because you don’t know what was or wasn’t told. It certainly was in the headlines at some point. But so many things are forgotten about.

...So, they were all good guys in the beginning, and they all have been transformed (dr jakil mr hyde) as soon they had been inaugurated in their presidential positions...Aftermath their legacy burden...

A journalist was right:

Obama is as progressive as he can be within the constraints of the American political system!

I don't even buy Oliver's story about allegedly Roosevelt exception in this sense and the proof of that we can find in this excerpt from the introduction in above interview:

For Stone, World War I was about Wall Street profiteering; World War II was about empire building; the USSR didn’t deserve to be demonized; and the Cold War was a huge overreaction. These are not views that most Americans would agree with, but there’s value in exploring other perspectives on the past.

In mr Stone's own words: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3JYyu7w6SY#t=56m24s

As long as mr Stone is not able to find in himself enough courage to speak it out: "9/11 was an inside job" he is going to be an (Obama's) accomplice in lying, as simple as that!

"A liar is a thief, and a thief is a murderer!"

44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

NOT SAYING THE TRUTH ALL THE WAY TO THE END IS LAYING TOO!!!

[mbrownn]

Of course they always find the way (sweet words) how to deceive average spectator (general public), after all aren't they masters of double speaks???



Thanks Mike!

You didn't find none of these faults in my work, that is because you are intelligent and educated man with great life experience, and nobody can fool guys like you.

One can be intelligent and educated person and he/she can have great life experience too, but there is still one (most important of all) question that we have to consider (before final estimation): is he/she a person of integrity or not?

We are all invited by God to be a persons of highest integrity, saint persons if you will, and that should be the ultimate goal of all human beings.

Our only possible choice is this: To be a saints or to fail as human beings!

Now, i would like to analyze mr Oliver Stone and his integrity.

As Oliver once said: Obama is a snake. O.K., i can't agree more with that. Since mr Stone have called Obama "a snake" then we expect of mr Stone to be much, much different than that (a snake), in other words we expect from mr Stone to be a saint.

How would i define phrase "to be a saint"? TO TELL THE TRUTH ALL THE TIME, ALL THE WAY THROUGH, ALL THE WAY TO THE END!!! THERE IS NO COMPROMISE WITH TRUTH!

To be more precise i could define above phrase in this way: IF YOU TELL JUST HALF OF THE TRUTH THAN YOU ARE ACCOMPLICE IN CRIME OF LAYING.

I could even quote one croatian famous proverb: "A liar is a thief, and a thief is a murderer!"

Now let's back to mr Olive Stone.

Obama lies as soon as he opens his mouth (as most politicians do), and mr Stone is saying the truth all the time, but is he saying the truth all the way trough - all the way to the end?

Let see one excerpt from already linked interview with him:

Question:
But you know the argument I’m making, right? It’s that Obama is as progressive as he can be within the constraints of the American political system.

Answer:
That’s not true. Roosevelt was facing a similar dilemma. Anything he did would be cursed. And he took huge risks. He didn’t go as far as perhaps he could have with the bankers, but he did make big changes. Obama had that mandate. But perhaps he felt he didn’t. Why would you go out and appoint Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State and carry over that old regime? Why would you appoint Robert Gates, who was one of the worst enablers of the CIA, to continue as your defense secretary? Why? Why would you put [Larry] Summers and [Tim] Geithner in on economics when they’re [Robert] Rubin acolytes? I don’t understand. What do you represent?

Question:
It’s interesting that you bring up empathy. For me, that was one of the main themes of The Untold History: trying to see America as others see it.

Answer:
That’s my solution. At the end, I try to bring that home. Kennedy, for example, who understood the nature of war and death because he served. McGovern is overlooked in our series to some degree, but certainly he’s one of my heroes now. Carter in the beginning, certainly. Clinton in the beginning. Obama in the beginning… had tremendous hope. We had hopes for him. Gorbachev is a hero to me. Krushchev is a hero to me.

Untold… I think we could have called it Unlearned. Because you don’t know what was or wasn’t told. It certainly was in the headlines at some point. But so many things are forgotten about.

...So, they were all good guys in the beginning, and they all have been transformed (dr jakil mr hyde) as soon they had been inaugurated in their presidential positions...Aftermath their legacy burden...

A journalist was right:

Obama is as progressive as he can be within the constraints of the American political system!

I don't even buy Oliver's story about allegedly Roosevelt exception in this sense and the proof of that we can find in this excerpt from the introduction in above interview:

For Stone, World War I was about Wall Street profiteering; World War II was about empire building; the USSR didn’t deserve to be demonized; and the Cold War was a huge overreaction. These are not views that most Americans would agree with, but there’s value in exploring other perspectives on the past.

In mr Stone's own words: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3JYyu7w6SY#t=56m24s

As long as mr Stone is not able to find in himself enough courage to speak it out: "9/11 was an inside job" he is going to be an (Obama's) accomplice in lying, as simple as that!

"A liar is a thief, and a thief is a murderer!"

44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

NOT SAYING THE TRUTH ALL THE WAY TO THE END IS LAYING TOO!!!

Its interesting about Mr stone, we know there is good and bad in all of us but remember this, If its too good to be true, it probably isn't true. Do you remember the "Love Police"? too good to be true and it wasn't true.

Mr Stone has done good work and we should be thankful for it, but we should not put him on a pedestal either. Keep an open mind, I don't think he is trying to sucker punch us like Charlie Veitch, and he is free to have his opinions, even if we don't agree. Praise when we agree and speak out when we don't.

Sometimes people don't speak out when we think they should, maybe there are good reasons they don't speak out, sometimes not. Would it have been right to punish the oppressed in Nazi Germany for not speaking out?

I'm undecided on Mr stone and many others in the public eye and so keep an open mind.

[cikljamas]

Its interesting about Mr stone, we know there is good and bad in all of us but remember this, If its too good to be true, it probably isn't true. Do you remember the "Love Police"? too good to be true and it wasn't true.

Mr Stone has done good work and we should be thankful for it, but we should not put him on a pedestal either. Keep an open mind, I don't think he is trying to sucker punch us like Charlie Veitch, and he is free to have his opinions, even if we don't agree. Praise when we agree and speak out when we don't.

Sometimes people don't speak out when we think they should, maybe there are good reasons they don't speak out, sometimes not. Would it have been right to punish the oppressed in Nazi Germany for not speaking out?

I'm undecided on Mr stone and many others in the public eye and so keep an open mind.

I very much appreciate mr Stone's work, and i don't think that mr Stone should be punished for anything (as well as oppressed people in Nazi Germany), i am just saying that if there is basis for comparison Nazi Germany and contemporary United States of America (and unfortunately there is) than we have got a serious problem here!!!

If even guys like mr Stone are afraid to say in open way the truth (and we all know what that truth is) about 9/11 then it speaks for itself - it says more than 1 billion words...

Here is first example of Stone's review on that issue:

IGNFF: Considering your past films and the things you've said, what do you think of the conspiracy theories surrounding 9/11?

STONE: I'd read some of those conspiracy theories. And frankly, I don't want to venture an opinion because I never got deeper into it. I read a couple of books. It's fascinating stuff. But you have to really go further. On JFK I really did a lot of research. I did a year-and-a-half of research. But here, I don't know. It seems to me in a broad way, if you look at the forest through the trees, it seems to me that what happened since is far worse than what happened that day. So a conspiracy theory, whatever it may be, is not as relevant as where we are now. I think we have more deaths from terror, more fear, more debt. We have constitutional breakdowns. We've got everything going on. Wars. So I think that's what matters, and we have to worry about that, really, instead of what say is so — and even if it is, so f****** what? We've got a bigger problem now.


I repeat Oliver's words :
1. I dont know! (Come on mr Stone, what you don't know? What? You don't know how WTC 7 collapsed and why? Are you kidding me? How much time do you need to examine this video? Years? Hahahah...)

2. It seems to me that what happened since is far worse than what happened that day. (Well, here we could ask mr Stone just one stupid question like this: would these worse things have happened at all if 9/11 had not happened?)

3. It is not as relevant as where we are now. (Really? I always have been thinking in relations of causes and consequences and i always have been persuaded that causes are of prime importance and consequences of second, oddly you obviously don't share my opinion on this matter mr. Stone)

4. and even if it is, so f****** what? (Nothing )

5. We've got a bigger problem now. (Thanks to nothing (see number 4), i guess )

Oliver Stone on Obama and 9/11 Truth - I don't think there is much to be gained from that - i am in hurry - goodby

Well, goodby to you too, mr Stone!!!

Fortunately, Oliver's son saves the honor of his father: Oliver Stone’s Son Says 9/11 Was an ‘Inside Job,’ Hezbollah Aren’t Terrorists, Israel Is a ‘Crusader State’

[BroMikey]

Oliver Stone Devils

Its interesting about Mr stone, we know there is good and bad in all of us but remember this, If its too good to be true, it probably isn't true. Do you remember the "Love Police"? too good to be true and it wasn't true.

Mr Stone has done good work and we should be thankful for it, but we should not put him on a pedestal either. Keep an open mind, I don't think he is trying to sucker punch us like Charlie Veitch, and he is free to have his opinions, even if we don't agree. Praise when we agree and speak out when we don't.

Sometimes people don't speak out when we think they should, maybe there are good reasons they don't speak out, sometimes not. Would it have been right to punish the oppressed in Nazi Germany for not speaking out?

I'm undecided on Mr stone and many others in the public eye and so keep an open mind.

Good illuminati high order director hollywood producer devil worshipper MUST do good things to stay in a good light with the people while they also MUST do many violent things against THE RULE OF LAW.

No one in the Hollywood industry is innocent. They prey on each other. They all know that the gOd they serve is (Baphomet) and his symbol appears everywhere in hollywood productions. Superbowl you name it.

Only a blind man can't see that everyone in Hollywood MUST bow to Baphomet and even after they do pledge their lives are subject to offering their children to the fires of Baphomet for sacrifice.

This is a well known, the industry does not hide it. They say Jesus and lies all in the sames sentence without conscience. If people want to waffle on every subject concerning proper RULE OF LAW and who is righteous, I will not stand by while wishy washy essay's are written.


Baphomet lives with Oliver Stone and Stone serves this Hollywood gOd. that is common sense. You don't rise to powerful director positions without bowing down.

The symbolism is found in all of their posters and movies showing that they honor Lucifer, they call the good gOd.

Check out the dates that celebrities die on and you will see that these date correspond to high unholy days honoring their Baphomet with dead bodies.

Wake up all you blind men. They sold their souls to the devil for fame and fortune. Sometimes they are frightened into joining because they are born into it.

The entire world is controlled by the fear of death one way or another, this is the oppressive force of the underworld. The people are lead to think that my words are wrong and that this dark force is only imaginary.

Mike

[mbrownn]

I very much appreciate mr Stone's work, and i don't think that mr Stone should be punished for anything (as well as oppressed people in Nazi Germany), i am just saying that if there is basis for comparison Nazi Germany and contemporary United States of America (and unfortunately there is) than we have got a serious problem here!!!

I think we are all agreed here

If even guys like mr Stone are afraid to say in open way the truth (and we all know what that truth is) about 9/11 then it speaks for itself - it says more than 1 billion words...

I totally agree but there are many who just cant accept it

Here is first example of Stone's review on that issue:

IGNFF: Considering your past films and the things you've said, what do you think of the conspiracy theories surrounding 9/11?

STONE: I'd read some of those conspiracy theories. And frankly, I don't want to venture an opinion because I never got deeper into it. I read a couple of books. It's fascinating stuff. But you have to really go further. On JFK I really did a lot of research. I did a year-and-a-half of research. But here, I don't know. It seems to me in a broad way, if you look at the forest through the trees, it seems to me that what happened since is far worse than what happened that day. So a conspiracy theory, whatever it may be, is not as relevant as where we are now. I think we have more deaths from terror, more fear, more debt. We have constitutional breakdowns. We've got everything going on. Wars. So I think that's what matters, and we have to worry about that, really, instead of what say is so — and even if it is, so f****** what? We've got a bigger problem now.

What has he done here? He has avoided an argument that he perceives he cant win. Maybe some of the people who can't accept 911 can still go along with him, so he sees it as a way to move forward without addressing 911. Cowardly? maybe. astute? maybe. Both? probably.

We don't know all his problems but as BroMikey has pointed out, we know one. Hollywood.

BroMikey, It is important that you read this too.

To get on in Hollywood, you have to go along with the powers that be, I think we all accept this, but I suspect more. It is only a suspicion, so I may be doing Oliver Stone a miss service, and if I am I apologise.

Just as in the BBC, it seems that there is a significant control factor that is employed when the elites promote, fund and otherwise help someone in this industry. In the BBC, British government and the British legal system, it is clear that financial corruption, and worse still, paedophilia has been the preferred method of control. Any person that would step out of line could be exposed for their part in these crimes.

Could it be that Oliver Stone has something to hide? I'm not saying that he is a paedophile, as it could be any method of blackmail that could be used, but for him to get as far as he has, the odds of him not being controlled is small, very small.

Is Satanism used? yes, without doubt, but I am fairly sure that not all of them will be Satanist.

Is Oliver Stone an angel? I doubt it, but he does seem to have a conscience, and maybe he has gone as far as he can at this point.

I am not condoning him or any other person, I'm just stating a suspicion about that industry and how it appears to work. I don't think it is a distraction to discuss this, as it may be another way to bring the system down. but to fixate on one person, or one aspect, would be a distraction.

If you want to understand Hollywood, then study what is happening at the BBC, because it is crumbling and falling apart one piece at a time. Everything from the News to children entertainment is involved. Its sickening. Realize that it is a control system that exploits abhorrent behaviour by rewarding and encouraging it, and then uses knowledge of the offender to control them.

[BroMikey]

Dudes Dudes!!!!

I think we are all agreed here


I totally agree but there are many who just cant accept it


What has he done here? He has avoided an argument that he perceives he cant win. Maybe some of the people who can't accept 911 can still go along with him, so he sees it as a way to move forward without addressing 911. Cowardly? maybe. astute? maybe. Both? probably.

We don't know all his problems but as BroMikey has pointed out, we know one. Hollywood.

BroMikey, It is important that you read this too.

To get on in Hollywood, you have to go along with the powers that be, I think we all accept this, but I suspect more. It is only a suspicion, so I may be doing Oliver Stone a miss service, and if I am I apologise.

Just as in the BBC, it seems that there is a significant control factor that is employed when the elites promote, fund and otherwise help someone in this industry. In the BBC, British government and the British legal system, it is clear that financial corruption, and worse still, paedophilia has been the preferred method of control. Any person that would step out of line could be exposed for their part in these crimes.

Could it be that Oliver Stone has something to hide? I'm not saying that he is a paedophile, as it could be any method of blackmail that could be used, but for him to get as far as he has, the odds of him not being controlled is small, very small.

Is Satanism used? yes, without doubt, but I am fairly sure that not all of them will be Satanist.

Is Oliver Stone an angel? I doubt it, but he does seem to have a conscience, and maybe he has gone as far as he can at this point.

I am not condoning him or any other person, I'm just stating a suspicion about that industry and how it appears to work. I don't think it is a distraction to discuss this, as it may be another way to bring the system down. but to fixate on one person, or one aspect, would be a distraction.

If you want to understand Hollywood, then study what is happening at the BBC, because it is crumbling and falling apart one piece at a time. Everything from the News to children entertainment is involved. Its sickening. Realize that it is a control system that exploits abhorrent behaviour by rewarding and encouraging it, and then uses knowledge of the offender to control them.

It is so wonderful to see gentlemen such as yourselves who proceed so cautiously with any subject they are not fully sure of. Very nice, I do like that.

Okay here is my big problem.

GMO foods are designed to make farming into a food that does not support life.

Does not support the work ethic for hard working men.

Soy is biofuel for Diesel and loaded with aluminum ions bombarding the synaptic portion of the brain causing diseases.

Vaccines are killing.

The elite are evil and the easy money in Hollywood does not come without a price.

These want to kill off entire populations, its in the movies. They don't hide it. They are worshippers of evil so they can get the easy money.

All of the big names get away with murder.

Stolen organs, execution vans to harvest body parts while they are still warm to provide a replacement for Hollywood stars.

Shall I go on?

Murdering, sex abuses, murder with sex and children are sacrifices during these rites.

Let me explain.

When a star is worshiped as a mini god having more money than they can use also having 1000's of lose partners year after year.

These people are like the cats who are domesticated for a number of years growing up and after eating blood it does something to the cats brain and senses.

The cat has animal instincts that kick in when they eat the blood.

This is THE RULE OF LAW for while beasts. AM I getting through to you?

These people eat and drink blood and their spirit comes alive in a way that it is not suppose to. At first this practice is concealed within their circles of entertainment yet slowing introduced in one way or another to food and drink.

All of their private parties are treated as rituals. The older more experienced plot the younger one's entry into the darkness. This has always been the case.

The leaders know how to catch they prey slowly and effectively.

You can not be part of Hollywood for decades without seeing all of the fine details

Children are stolen from their parents using DSS. Children are prostituted from a young age, kidnapped by mob members who are all part of the bigger picture.

Eastern mysticism and satanism has been exponentially increasing for the past 100 years.

Bush put his middle finger up to the camera, Clinton Chronicles showed he is a drug pusher, Hillery caught with a gay lover, they are all gang members of the bigger plot.

Bill getting an under the desk service, all in the media.

All in your face and their question is "WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT"?

Kennedy wanted Marlyn, he was knocked off for shutting off at the mouth.

Inside you do what you are told or you become the next sacrifice a little sooner than you would have been.

It's a crash and burn lifestyle. Life in the fast lane.

The RULE OF LAW in THIS world at the top, especially the television industry is service to the god of fleshly desires and HIS name is Baphomet.

HE is also PAN as in PETERPAN having both male and female organs and a goats head. Look for the goats head it is everywhere.

There can be no mistake.

Thanks for the words you have offered but I can not keep still on things I know.

For instance a friend did ritual and later I asked what happened to you?

THEY said THEY said? Yes I say THEY because honestly I could not tell if they were a man or a woman as they had done a special ritual than changes you from one gender to another and stopped right in the middle of that process.

This person cries out to the living GOD for mercy everyday and is a powerful force in the ranks of HOLY LIVING.

Mike

[BroMikey]

Dudes Dudes!!!!

I think we are all agreed here


I totally agree but there are many who just cant accept it


What has he done here? He has avoided an argument that he perceives he cant win. Maybe some of the people who can't accept 911 can still go along with him, so he sees it as a way to move forward without addressing 911. Cowardly? maybe. astute? maybe. Both? probably.

We don't know all his problems but as BroMikey has pointed out, we know one. Hollywood.

BroMikey, It is important that you read this too.

To get on in Hollywood, you have to go along with the powers that be, I think we all accept this, but I suspect more. It is only a suspicion, so I may be doing Oliver Stone a miss service, and if I am I apologise.

Just as in the BBC, it seems that there is a significant control factor that is employed when the elites promote, fund and otherwise help someone in this industry. In the BBC, British government and the British legal system, it is clear that financial corruption, and worse still, paedophilia has been the preferred method of control. Any person that would step out of line could be exposed for their part in these crimes.

Could it be that Oliver Stone has something to hide? I'm not saying that he is a paedophile, as it could be any method of blackmail that could be used, but for him to get as far as he has, the odds of him not being controlled is small, very small.

Is Satanism used? yes, without doubt, but I am fairly sure that not all of them will be Satanist.

Is Oliver Stone an angel? I doubt it, but he does seem to have a conscience, and maybe he has gone as far as he can at this point.

I am not condoning him or any other person, I'm just stating a suspicion about that industry and how it appears to work. I don't think it is a distraction to discuss this, as it may be another way to bring the system down. but to fixate on one person, or one aspect, would be a distraction.

If you want to understand Hollywood, then study what is happening at the BBC, because it is crumbling and falling apart one piece at a time. Everything from the News to children entertainment is involved. Its sickening. Realize that it is a control system that exploits abhorrent behaviour by rewarding and encouraging it, and then uses knowledge of the offender to control them.

It is so wonderful to see gentlemen such as yourselves who proceed so cautiously with any subject they are not fully sure of. Very nice, I do like that.

Okay here is my big problem.

GMO foods are designed to make farming into a food that does not support life.

Does not support the work ethic for hard working men.

Soy is biofuel for Diesel and loaded with aluminum ions bombarding the synaptic portion of the brain causing diseases.

Vaccines are killing.

The elite are evil and the easy money in Hollywood does not come without a price.

These want to kill off entire populations, its in the movies. They don't hide it. They are worshippers of evil so they can get the easy money.

All of the big names get away with murder.

Stolen organs, execution vans to harvest body parts while they are still warm to provide a replacement for Hollywood stars.

Shall I go on?

Murdering, sex abuses, murder with sex and children are sacrifices during these rites.

Let me explain.

When a star is worshiped as a mini god having more money than they can use also having 1000's of lose partners year after year.

These people are like the cats who are domesticated for a number of years growing up and after eating blood it does something to the cats brain and senses.

The cat has animal instincts that kick in when they eat the blood.

This is THE RULE OF LAW for while beasts. AM I getting through to you?

These people eat and drink blood and their spirit comes alive in a way that it is not suppose to. At first this practice is concealed within their circles of entertainment yet slowing introduced in one way or another to food and drink.

All of their private parties are treated as rituals. The older more experienced plot the younger one's entry into the darkness. This has always been the case.

The leaders know how to catch they prey slowly and effectively.

You can not be part of Hollywood for decades without seeing all of the fine details

Children are stolen from their parents using DSS. Children are prostituted from a young age, kidnapped by mob members who are all part of the bigger picture.

Eastern mysticism and satanism has been exponentially increasing for the past 100 years.

Bush put his middle finger up to the camera, Clinton Chronicles showed he is a drug pusher, Hillery caught with a gay lover, they are all gang members of the bigger plot.

Bill getting an under the desk service, all in the media.

All in your face and their question is "WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT"?

Kennedy wanted Marlyn, he was knocked off for shootting off at the mouth.

Inside you do what you are told or you become the next sacrifice a little sooner than you would have been.

It's a crash and burn lifestyle. Life in the fast lane.

The RULE OF LAW in THIS world at the top, especially the television industry is service to the god of fleshly desires and HIS name is Baphomet.

HE is also PAN as in PETERPAN having both male and female organs and a goats head. Look for the goats head it is everywhere.

There can be no mistake.

Thanks for the words you have offered but I can not keep still on things I know.

For instance a friend did ritual and later I asked what happened to you?

THEY said THEY said? Yes I say THEY because honestly I could not tell if they were a man or a woman as they had done a special ritual than changes you from one gender to another and stopped right in the middle of that process.

This person cries out to the living GOD for mercy everyday and is a powerful force in the ranks of HOLY LIVING.

Mike

[cikljamas]

The people are lead to think that my words are wrong and that this dark force is only imaginary.

Mike

The Full Armor of God
…11Put on the full armor of God, so that you will be able to stand firm against the schemes of the devil. 12For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. 13Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.…

New Living Translation
For we are not fighting against flesh-and-blood enemies, but against evil rulers and authorities of the unseen world, against mighty powers in this dark world, and against evil spirits in the heavenly places.

I think we are all agreed here

I totally agree but there are many who just cant accept it

What has he done here? He has avoided an argument that he perceives he cant win. Maybe some of the people who can't accept 911 can still go along with him, so he sees it as a way to move forward without addressing 911. Cowardly? maybe. astute? maybe. Both? probably.

We don't know all his problems but as BroMikey has pointed out, we know one. Hollywood.

BroMikey, It is important that you read this too.

To get on in Hollywood, you have to go along with the powers that be, I think we all accept this, but I suspect more. It is only a suspicion, so I may be doing Oliver Stone a miss service, and if I am I apologise.

If you want to understand Hollywood, then study what is happening at the BBC, because it is crumbling and falling apart one piece at a time. Everything from the News to children entertainment is involved. Its sickening. Realize that it is a control system that exploits abhorrent behaviour by rewarding and encouraging it, and then uses knowledge of the offender to control them.

What was the charge against Al Capone? Al Capone's tax trial and downfall

Oliver Stone: Power makes mistakes

Mistakes like this (?):

Probably the biggest mistake Capone made was to hire two criminal lawyers in Nash and Fink. They had no experience in tax matters. He would have done better with a tax expert, who could have proven that the statutes of limitation on some of the charges against Capone were now void.

What am i trying to point up here with Al Capone case is this:

9/11 is the only chance to kill (or at least inflict serious injury) the beast by prosecuting the major criminals that had organized and put in action the biggest mass murder on american soil killing 3 000 american innocent citizens.

If you really want to do something about those even worse things (which are far worse than what happened that day (9/11) as mr Stone pointed out) that concerns you (so that you (mr Stone) don't want to be distracted by dealing with fruitless and "insignificant" 9/11 case) then you have to deal with 9/11!!! - THAT IS THE POINT !!! -

It happened on american soil, it was inside job, and it was a HUGE CRIME, MOTHER AND FATHER OF ALL LATER CRIMES!

It was new PEARL HARBOR, it was deliberate, carefully planed, and unmercifully carried out crime!

9/11 was turning point - major crossroad - inevitable HOLY GRAIL for everyone (especially investigative journalists) who wants to deal with the truth in contemporary world! You just can not put it aside and carry on, it is impossible, deliberately avoiding this issue you avoid the whole truth knowingly, period!

JFK assassination happened too long ago, 9/11 is fresh, so if your intention is to scarify cadaver (JFK) or to be historian than go and be historian, but don't talk like it seems that you really care about what is happening in real actual world, don't try to play M.L.King and guys like that...Just be honest and say: i am scarred, don't pretend that you are brave that you are some kind of hero because you are not.

And unfortunately in times like this (as it was in Nazi Germany) you can be a hero, or a coward, there is no in between!!!

BBC video about WTC7 is a hoax

18 minutes that every person (especially american citizen) in the world should spend watching this video

Liberation of Auschwitz Rl 2/2 221037-06.mp4

Any resemblance is purely a coincidence...

And now have a good meal if you can and carry on as if nothing special has happened!!!

Shout out or shout up, be a man or be a coward, make your choice!

[mbrownn]

It is so wonderful to see gentlemen such as yourselves who proceed so cautiously with any subject they are not fully sure of. Very nice, I do like that.

Thankyou, although it wasn't always so. I have shot off at the mouth like an unrestrained Tommy gun, about provable facts, only to shot down by some dumb shill, who happened to have been armed with the right distractive argument. I wasn't making progress, so it was time to change my approach.

I studied, very hard to know all the facts, and counter argument on a particular subject, but even then, I can't make an indentation on the armour of ignorance (both meanings of the word) worn by these people.

Second change of approach, I learned all I could about their belief system (I’m not talking religion here) and where there source of information was, and tried to understand them. This too, is a lost cause, because a belief system can only change from within.

Third change of approach, give up. Not on your life, no way, and never. Educate, educate and educate some more, on unrelated subjects, In the end, they all lead to the problem we are discussing, but they bring up the questions and then they will accept truthful argument provided that they can mould their belief system to some degree. I found that this can be destructive to some extent because not everyone can cope with a paradigm shift. Several people broke under the mental stress of reality, and turned to a new paradigm, religion being one of them. In these cases religion was used to abdicate responsibility and do nothing. I needed to find a solution to this.

I have studied four different religions in depth, and several more to some degree. Believe me when I tell you I have changed the religious belief of some people unintentionally. I could change a Muslim into a Catholic and Catholic into a Muslim, but to what end? They still could not accept the reality of what is happening in the world. Changing some ones religious faith is dangerous and it should be their choice and not mine.

Its playing with peoples minds, I know how a lot of Christian and Muslim fundamentalism can be created, so have learned one of the powers of the elite. Its easy to do with the uneducated. I'm not saying I could convert everyone, far from it, but more than a few. I refuse to use this ability, and that is just one reason I won't let this become a religious argument.

Education IS the key and it is a very powerful weapon, I'm not talking about education in the way most people understand it, I'm talking about teaching people how to think for themselves, as in asking the questions, Who What When Where and Why, the 5 W's.

Obviously the people here on this forum have the ability to think for themselves and don't need me for that, but moving on what is the next step? Its getting people to act, and that is why I am here.

From your posts I know what is your belief system, what is your morality, and I know you are quite aware of the problem in many of its forms. So how can I help you?

I would say don't use the Godly approach so much, it puts people off, and those that disagree with your belief system will never listen to you. I'm not being patronising here, but God gave us these abilities and the abilities to change things. He expects that of us. With your knowledge and your belief, show others how to change things in the good moral way, that God would have us do. The best way to teach is not to preach, but get people to think, get them to ask questions? Don't give them answers as such, but show them where to find the answers. If I was teaching people about Christianity I would never say read the bible or go to church, I would let them find their own way there. Let them choose the subject matter and then they will learn. You are sowing those seeds, but find the fertile ground (you know what I’m referring to )

Yes they taunt us as you say "WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT" the answer is change the world for the better and we have the power to do it. Just look around you, you can see it happening.

Have faith my friend, especially in yourself

[mbrownn]

@cikljamas

I know what your saying about 911 , believe me it was my paradigm shift moment when I learned about that, but for the vast majority of adults, they have chosen which side of the fence to sit on, or whether to sit on the fence itself, and they ain’t budging.

As I said to BroMikey, find the fertile ground, something new, something fresh in their minds. This economic collapse for example, when they loose their jobs and go hungry, it will sharpen their IQ. When their sons are going off to be gun fodder in wars on the other side of the world, they will think again, but for now, talk about what is directly effecting them and how to solve that. In the end it is the same thing, all roads lead to 911.

I'm no M.L. King, and don't want to be. I'm an insignificant ant living on a boil on the ******* of the world, but I feel I can make a difference, and I am. I stood up years ago, and got all the tin foil hat jibes, which at the time demoralized me, but now I'm back, stronger than ever.

I will never give up, and absolutely will not stop. Chaaaarge

TO THE FREEMASONS, PAEDOPHILES, SATANISTS AND CONNECTED ‘HUMAN’ DEBRIS WHO ARE CURRENTLY SEEKING TO INTIMIDATE ME AND THOSE THAT I KNOW – WE DON’T DO INTIMIDATION. IT JUST MAKES US RUN AT YOU QUICKER

So you are wasting your time and you can, to put it succinctly, **** off.
And anything else that you do will be reported far and wide.
Have a nice day.