and what do you make of this unpretentious little effort boys and girls?

[Duncan]

Chas Chambell Free Energy Generator Replica - Generating 2340 Watts using 750W - YouTube

there's plenty of similar. lots of people learning the trick now

[Mario]

[interdesign21]

starting power

@Mario
Depends of what you see.
What I see is a machine already looped, which starts (only) with the mechanical starting input from the drill, and works by itself afterwards, consuming 750W for its own functioning, from the 2340W produced.
The camera gives a view underneath (at the end) to show that the machine is not connected to anything. Therefore, cannot have a meter at input. (you may calculate the power/time consumed by the drill to start the process)

I may be wrong, of course (my view may be biased with my desire)
regards
Alvaro

[Cornboy 555]

Hey Guy's, from what i can gleen from the vid, the drive motor has an input from mains, the drill is used simply because the motor would have a very hard time starting a mass like that flywheel, etc.

I agree it is a shame that no measurement was made on the input to the run motor.

We are left to asume that the input power is what they say.

Regards Cornboy.

[Matthew Jones]

The thing to know in one of these setups is the difference between the magnetic model at regular speed and at the high speed that it runs on. I think the flywheels do little more than remove rapid cogging caused from driving the generator over speed.

I really have hard time believing someone would build that thing, counting the cost alone, just to be untruthful. If I spent that money and didn't work I would slander the hell out of someone, not promote it.

It would be nice to see more measurement though. But one thing I did notice was no Lag or sound of lag in the gen when it was loaded down. Again thats why I believe the gen at high speeds is changing its behavior.

Matt

[boguslaw]

FUELLESS GENERATOR - YouTube

[boguslaw]

Fueless self-sustaining generator invented by Edo State school teacher - YouTube

[Duncan]

super delux model ... from the rolls royce factory

Dont Ya just love it Boguslaw they haven't been brainwashed and conditioned so they can do it ! TPTB (the powers that be ) and their criminal friends the banksters who control our exsistance and education make sure we know it can't be done with total crap about power in and power out .. so guess what anyone riddled with that stuff .. cant do it.



As I write hundreds of these things are being made IMHO the Jigs up

[dR-Green]

Dont Ya just love it Boguslaw they haven't been brainwashed and conditioned so they can do it ! TPTB (the powers that be ) and their criminal friends the banksters who control our exsistance and education make sure we know it can't be done with total crap about power in and power out .. so guess what anyone riddled with that stuff .. cant do it.

What kind of nonsense is this? Brainwashed into looking for a ratio of input to output? How do you propose to define the output as being free energy if you do not know the input?

lots of people learning the trick now

Indeed. Your statement contains one important word. I believe you already know which one it is.

[Gdez]

maybe your right

@ Duncan,
I'm kinda with you...Maybe all of us skeptics are just missing something simple. It's hard to tell. With the ease of making a pretty cool youtube video, anybody can say anything, but look at the vids of people that are not asking for money, some are quite interesting. It seems that with all these claims, someone would have nailed it by now.
Well,
It's not like I don't have enough projects going, but this one seems pretty easy to replicate if I can put tires under it. I have dually, so I have extra tires.
Also check this out(from keelynet)--



if this q-mogen thing is going maybe one of them actually works. Especially the one with the tires. (I have lot's of them)
.
Anyway.. food for thought,
Greg

[Duncan]

There are non so blind as those who .. wont even look

What kind of nonsense is this? Brainwashed into looking for a ratio of input to output? How do you propose to define the output as being free energy if you do not know the input?



Indeed. Your statement contains one important word. I believe you already know which one it is.

Well Its so deeply entrenched and folks get very upset when you touch the raw nerve I hesitate to try in your case dr green .. I recall I tried before with you on a thread and you got quickly bent out of shape .. that aside I'll try again because with out radically altering the view point and focus you'll never ever get the gist of what's happening here . One of the few things that Albert Einstein said that wasn't a prostituted lie is a mantra well known by every ten year old school child

'Energy cannot be created or destroyed, it can only be changed from one form to another.' Tom Bearden "Radient energy" - YouTube

[Duncan]

like this If your gonna try ..

@ Duncan,
I'm kinda with you...Maybe all of us skeptics are just missing something simple. It's hard to tell. With the ease of making a pretty cool youtube video, anybody can say anything, but look at the vids of people that are not asking for money, some are quite interesting. It seems that with all these claims, someone would have nailed it by now.
Well,
It's not like I don't have enough projects going, but this one seems pretty easy to replicate if I can put tires under it. I have dually, so I have extra tires.
Also check this out(from keelynet)--



if this q-mogen thing is going maybe one of them actually works. Especially the one with the tires. (I have lot's of them)
.
Anyway.. food for thought,
Greg

OS: Nigerian QMoGen Plans - PESWiki

http://peswiki.com/images/8/80/NigerianQMoGen-Schematic-w-load_TerryWolf_400.jpg

http://dnp.s3.amazonaws.com/b/b5/RE-OU-v6.1.pdf

Capacitive Battery Charger - John Saves Energy

[boguslaw]

I think I could give you important tip , I concluded from all those videos that motor-generator set are working ONLY when previously sped up to the critical speed , sometimes also the special motor or a modified generator or additional circuit is required.... I will build one soon I hope.

[dR-Green]

I hesitate to try in your case dr green .. I recall I tried before with you on a thread and you got quickly bent out of shape

When was that?

Given that the statement is true and you have a machine transforming some of it , why would you want to measure anything ?

?? This statement is simply you shooting yourself in the foot. If you don't measure anything then you have no way of knowing whether you have gained or lost anything in the first place.

You would want to measure something in order to know.

I often hear folks saying there's a water shortage on the planet Its getting scarce, Really where does it go ? Get in its space ship and leave ?

Put the claim within the CORRECT context in which it is intended. There is a "shortage" of CLEAN water. Go to any random location on the planet and start drinking from the puddles of water that you find on the ground. We will soon see how long you last. Farmland around your river renders your river unsafe to drink without some form of processing. The safest option is to catch it as it falls from the sky.

"Free energy" itself is a huge scam because no one seems to get it. The power that's generated costs nothing, even if they burn coal, the coal is free. It doesn't make any difference what the source of it is. If they deliver it to you through their system then they are free to charge you for using their system, or they can choose to give it to you at no cost. There is no magic here. It's simply business. What you are saying is that you want someone else to pay to set it all up, and then give it to you at no cost. Why should they? They have to pay for the materials and the workers. If you want it to be free then the roots extend far beyond the idea of "free energy" and simply deciding to not give you a bill. The workers expect to be paid for their work, just as you do.

Its essentially an open system where would you want to put instruments anyway ? By the machine ? By the energy meter ? By the first substation ? The generator ? The turbine ? The boiler house ? Every reading would be radically different making the operation quite meaningless anyway

I can set up a rain catch and a bucket to capture the rain as it falls from the sky. Then I can measure the amount of water that is in the bucket. Magic!

You don't seem to get it. If you are not measuring anything, then you have absolutely no possibility of being able to even claim that anything is gained for free. Then rallying up the masses to support it simply makes you the disinformant, you are deliberately posting easily disproved claims with total disregard for how anyone else of scientific mind might perceive it, you are happy to say that they are brainwashed. Rest assured it is they who see you as the brainwashed nutter who should only be ignored as a lunatic, along with the rest of the "free energy community" because you willingly throw out any science, you have no interest in advancing science to take the claims seriously. You are pissing into the stream of clean water and polluting the whole thing for everyone downriver.

[edit] As well meaning as you may be (or possibly not), if you want them to take it seriously then to a certain extent you have to play the game by their rules. Saying that they are brainwashed doesn't advance the science, it simply puts you into the realms of nutters and ensures that it will always be excluded from any serious scientific research.

[boguslaw]

Measuring or not , the final answer must be simple , like connecting motor to generator and powering load without consuming any matter except those parts which wear out in time..... and even child would see and measure output. WE NEED simple definitive answer ! One can measure something which other person would dispute for hours, that's not the way it should be!