Hoax ? if it is its elaborate - you decide

[Duncan]

if this things real we might be looking for a new hobby early next year

Brazilian Firm Goes To Market With Free Energy Generator Capable of Powering Two Average Size Houses | Libertarian News

[GSM]

I quote from the text -
"The petro-dollar will surely topple in the face of this invention."

!!!!! NO - It will not !!!!!
The entirety of our modern society is based upon petro-dollar taxation.

It will be these guys who topple if they challenge 'society' (the petro dollar),
and quite frankly I wonder about the sensibilities of anyone who think they can.

Were this a real runner, then Brazil's Military would already have taken the Patent.

Cheers ............. Graham.

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, hi gsm, quite the optimist.
Thank god, things change.
peace love light

[Farmhand]

This is kinda interesting and we will see in the long run I guess, I don't see any
information or enough of the device with which to make any decision on what
could be going on. Proof is in the pudding, If they don't make them available
worldwide or even countrywide and only offer them in one city that is
suspicious. Maybe all the customers are known to them or sign some agreement.

If they sold a unit outside the city it may not work due to the nature of the
grid there or something and how they do billing.

If it is real then they run a big risk, because if said device is capable of
upsetting the global economy even though it sucks anyway, there are laws in
place to shut them down.

It goes like this new energy system comes on the market it will last for 100 years
and output enough energy to run two houses with input easily provided by
solar or wind and batteries. The entire grid energy system is put under great
stress supplying only a few customers with a lot of infrastructure, the price of
energy for the few conventional customers skyrockets and energy companies
lose all profit and pull out of the business leaving he entire power industry for
existing customers up to the government, community or no one to run at loss.

100 000's of people become out of work due to knock on effects. Lots of
companies lose a lot of money and the economy is disrupted, the
governments that we put in power have made laws to prevent this, it is up to
us to put people in the government who will change that. Until then I don't
hold much hope. I mean we put a bunch of lying psychopaths in charge of
making our laws then we complain when the pander to big business for donations.
We are just laying in the bed we and our past generations have made.

Lets not forget the Lutec debacle, they show a unit and say what it can do and get investment forever.

In past times when one was sent to the executioner it was wise to pay the
executioner so as not to get a botched job, this would have come about due
to the executioner performing botched jobs on purpose when wealthy people
did not pay him. Ultimately they die, but the swiftness makes a difference
mainly to those left behind (loved ones).

Simply an example of how people become controlled through fear.

Cheers

[Duncan]

what if , organised change ?

DESCOBRIMOS UMA NOVA FONTE DE ENERGIA
Mr Nilson BARBOSA has 5-in-a-row "pending" patents?
WO2013104039A1
WO2013104040A1
WO2013104041A1
WO2013104042A1
WO2013104043A1
according to information I'm relaying

Its interesting to consider that if (I say if) suitable systems exist as Dr Greer testifies here
Dr Steven Greer Testifies about Extra Terrestrial Technology At The Citizens Hearing On Disclosure - YouTube
(and perhaps the Brazil machine is one such) … Because all the Latino countries are acutely aware of the “petro dollar” and the avaricious nature of the corporation school of the American's . They know the American extortion system well, they also know Its a failure, As Dr Greer tells us . Its also pointed out loud and clear by John Perkins here, Petro Dollar system? Its a failure
John Perkins, Part 2 at the VFP National Convention - YouTube
so if there is to be a successful rebellion it might just originate from that direction and we might just be watching the genesis.
Anyway given that the corrupt American petro dollar extortion system must and will fail surly its far better to at least start thinking about a controlled exit strategy. With respect to GSM I don't think
the petro dollar is essential to society, in fact Its a total night mare for society, IMHO these guys need to leave by the door whilst they can, very soon there won't be time to leave even by the windows. Free energy is a fine ideal but I guess GSMs right in that respect and so a new viable fair system needs to be ready or else guess what , Its back to the War cycle and me'thinks if they get a
good one fired up this time there won't be much humanity left anyway.
John Perkins @ Schumacher College: What wrecked our economy and how to fix it - YouTube

[Ufopolitics]

English Patent App Descriptions...

DESCOBRIMOS UMA NOVA FONTE DE ENERGIA
Mr Nilson BARBOSA has 5-in-a-row "pending" patents?
WO2013104039A1
WO2013104040A1
WO2013104041A1
WO2013104042A1
WO2013104043A1
according to information I'm relaying

Its interesting to consider that if (I say if) suitable systems exist as Dr Greer testifies here
Dr Steven Greer Testifies about Extra Terrestrial Technology At The Citizens Hearing On Disclosure - YouTube
(and perhaps the Brazil machine is one such) … Because all the Latino countries are acutely aware of the “petro dollar” and the avaricious nature of the corporation school of the American's . They know the American extortion system well, they also know Its a failure, As Dr Greer tells us . Its also pointed out loud and clear by John Perkins here, Petro Dollar system? Its a failure
John Perkins, Part 2 at the VFP National Convention - YouTube
so if there is to be a successful rebellion it might just originate from that direction and we might just be watching the genesis.
Anyway given that the corrupt American petro dollar extortion system must and will fail surly its far better to at least start thinking about a controlled exit strategy. With respect to GSM I don't think
the petro dollar is essential to society, in fact Its a total night mare for society, IMHO these guys need to leave by the door whilst they can, very soon there won't be time to leave even by the windows. Free energy is a fine ideal but I guess GSMs right in that respect and so a new viable fair system needs to be ready or else guess what , Its back to the War cycle and me'thinks if they get a
good one fired up this time there won't be much humanity left anyway.
John Perkins @ Schumacher College: What wrecked our economy and how to fix it - YouTube

Hello Duncan, excellent Thread, excellent Post...

I searched those App # and...here they are

Patent WO2013104039A1 - Equipment for condensing electric current and equipment for transmitting ... - Google Patents

Patent WO2013104040A1 - Electric energy generation system - Google Patents

Patent WO2013104041A1 - Electromagnetic device for capturing free space electrons to generate ... - Google Patents

Patent WO2013104042A1 - Electromagnetic device for capturing electrons from the ground to generate ... - Google Patents

Patent WO2013104043A1 - Electric energy generation system with feedback - Google Patents

They are also available in French and Portuguese...

Have fun...lots of material to "Digest"...

On a separate note...

First I went to USPTO.gov...Pat. App. Number search and no luck...

IMO...They have made a huge "Non Technical" mistake...by applying for a Patent like this...whenever the Boss of the USPTO...The US DoE...verifies this statements are correct...and could work...with their "qualified engineering department"...their dreams are over.

USPTO through their "International Affairs" the Patent Commonwealth Treaty (PCT)... contacts their Embassy in Brazil...well...You may hear about it soon...


Regards


Ufopolitics

[Ufopolitics]

USPTO Secrecy Act, Secrecy Orders...

And...then again...the "Soap Opera" they have Us all doped for more than 130 years...:

The Secrecy Order Program
in the
United States Patent & Trademark Office
(Rev. 6/27/91)

The U.S. Patent & Trademark Office (PTO) is responsible for reviewing patent applications and imposing secrecy orders when disclosure of an invention by publication of a patent would be detrimental to the national security. 1 A secrecy order withholds the grant of a patent, orders that the invention be kept in secrecy and restricts filing of foreign patent applications.

Secrecy orders provide a security procedure to prevent technical data contained in a patent application from being disclosed in a manner that would be detrimental to the national security. Secrecy orders are imposed by the PTO upon specific recommendation by defense agencies, including the Army, Navy, Air Force, National Security Agency, Department of Energy and National Aeronautics and Space Administration.

The PTO conducts an initial security screening of all patent applications. Government-owned applications are not reviewed by the PTO for technical content. It is the responsibility of the cognizant defense agencies to review their own applications and recommend a secrecy order to the PTO where appropriate.

Keep reading at:

The Secrecy Order Program in the U.S. Patent & Trademark Office


Cheers


Ufopolitics

[Farmhand]

Yes I expect if it ever does happen it will begin in a somewhat independent
country. However drone strikes and other manipulations of the government of
Brazil would be expected.

If it is true I hope they do implement it and Brazil fills up with them, they get on TV
then people will begin to ask how these guys did this when NASA cannot.

We shouldn't get our hopes up on this one thing though.

It's not about this one thing, it's about the corrupt system we are under now.

Even if the government corruption and waste ended we could live comfortably without the need for fancy free energy.

The very same circumstance that would allow a free energy device to exist is
a situation where one is not really anywhere near as necessary.

Most of our work goes to waste, paying politicians, too many public servants,
bogus research grants, and general throw it away and get a new one, we'll
claim it on tax attitude of of many businesses.

The west needs to clean house all colors, and end all this war garbage.

Take the money out of politics, they should get their pay and that is it. Any
dollar as a contribution should be seen as a bribe automatically, outlaw party
donations.

Cheers

[GSM]

I like your discussion here Farmhand and Duncan.

Yes the power of the corrupt 'Petrodollar' and its secretly purchased military weaponry is what this is all about.
That is - those who give themselves the rights to choose who lives or dies (Paul Walker, Michael Hastings), or become sterilised via secret 'government' programs.

Some years back I would have thought of someone writing as I just have above to be quite bonkers, but during the last few years I have witnessed so much in real life that it is truly obvious that we are being sprayed by aeroplanes; disrupted by weather engineering; society itself is being influenced at local level by activists; politicians are bought/blackmailed puppets; and destabilising mercenary groups are centrally controlled.
Additionally, education has become an intelligence dumb-down method of forcibly keeping kids occupied and from developing their true potentials as WAS the case until about 40 years ago.

In other words - money has ruled - and now that nations/societies are going bust a frightening realisation is setting in which the money men do not know how to sort, and don't even have the funds to settle with anyway.

A little known money aspect relates to investments in Gold. How can Gold not be the most secure long term investment in the whole of world's humanity. Well - the wanker bankers organised Gold investments via paper certification. Folks bought gold at the trade rate, received a certificate and were told that "their" gold is held in safe keeping at the likes of Comex (USA) and LBMA (UK); but who has been checking ?????
It is coming to light that these certificates have been sold without genuinely real hands-on gold being vaulted against future encashment, and thus now there are about 60 owners of certificates for every ounce of real life Gold in the vaults.
Heck, the biggest US Bank Tower with basement vaults owned by JP Morgan was recently emptied and sold to a major Chinese Bank !

It is essential to realise that we are living in a PTB contrived 'society' and that we must all look out for ourselves, also, be extremely careful about the sharing of any energy related information that governments might view as undermining their *control* of society and their monetary income from same.

Cheers ............. Graham.

[Duncan]

can I have my gold back please, or even look at it?

Gold what Gold ? your off your head , go play with some pennies in the corner
Federal Reserve Refuses to Submit to an Audit of Germany´s Gold Held i | nsnbc international

[GSM]

Hi Duncan,

Good link.
Sorry I went off topic in your thread, I've been seriously unwell/ in hospital, which so changed my thoughts about life's priorities.

Just recovering enough now to get back to hands-on, and especially the transduction of field reversals capable of generating more electrical energy than is physically necessary to cause the physical motion which causes the field reversal, as per Wesley Gary and Lester Hendershot buzzing armature arrangements at a *critical distance* from a *horseshoe* magnet.

Cheers ................ Graham.

[Muon]

Hi Duncan,

Good link.
Sorry I went off topic in your thread, I've been seriously unwell/ in hospital, which so changed my thoughts about life's priorities.

Just recovering enough now to get back to hands-on, and especially the transduction of field reversals capable of generating more electrical energy than is physically necessary to cause the physical motion which causes the field reversal, as per Wesley Gary and Lester Hendershot buzzing armature arrangements at a *critical distance* from a *horseshoe* magnet.

Cheers ................ Graham.

Wishing you a speedy recovery, Graham. Your research sounds very interesting!

[Farmhand]

Here is an example of why the Gov will never do what is best for us. And we will
never see even alternative energies get a fair go. Now if all this corruption was
to stop our lives would be so much easier, we would all have lots of time for
improving our knowledge and working on our own things rather than working to
pay taxes for these scum politicians to waste while being paid by the big corps
to do their bidding. I fail to see how they are not committing high crimes in plain
sight of the authorities, Someone call the F'n cops on them. Get a rally
together and picket the police ect. to arrest them or be part of the arrested.

Forget protesting to politicians they are criminals, protest to the Sheriffs or
the police or whoever to arrest them as criminals. Get them when they go
back to their states, and arrest them there.

It's fraud.

Corruption in the house
Something Insane Just Happened In The House - YouTube

Corruption in the house 2
Insanity In The House, Part 2: The Guy Who Made It Happen - YouTube

Look here to see how your representative voted. Then I would say, send them an email either way either thanking them for not voting for more bank bailouts.
Or break their ball for voting corruptly. I think there is a way to see how much money they get as well.

The main man got almost $500 000 dollars yes half a million dollars.

Jim Himes Party D, State CT-4, from supporting groups $437,179, from opposing groups $44,001, voted - Yes

How is this even allowed to happen in the first place ? Talk about conflict of interest.

How they voted.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/113-2013/h569

Money for votes
Swaps Regulatory Improvement Act - House Vote: On Passage | Total Campaign Contributions | MapLight - Money and Politics

I see in Texas 4 Dems voted for it and Zero Republicans voted against it.

More

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2013/10/28/house-set-to-vote-on-2-bills-is-seen-as-an-ally-of-wall-st/?ref=politics&_r=4

One guess is a market crash is on the way soon.

I feel sick and angry and I'm not even an American.

I bet similar happens here but is harder to find out about.

Cheers

[Duncan]

Hi Duncan,

Good link.
Sorry I went off topic in your thread, I've been seriously unwell/ in hospital, which so changed my thoughts about life's priorities.

Just recovering enough now to get back to hands-on, and especially the transduction of field reversals capable of generating more electrical energy than is physically necessary to cause the physical motion which causes the field reversal, as per Wesley Gary and Lester Hendershot buzzing armature arrangements at a *critical distance* from a *horseshoe* magnet.

Cheers ................ Graham.

sorry to hear that Graham speedy recovery buddy . The Wesley Gary variations .. I had a little tinker with the two horse magnet (totally physical) machine and did get it to cycle a couple of times... once upon a time (believe it or not) there was a you tube video of one running, it didn't stay up very long.
I did look optimistically at Wesley’s other contrivances because they seem quite easy and logical If I remember rightly I decided Pure Iron was essential as opposed to mild steel, because of its very different magnetic response I could find none suitable. Hope you have better luck. As for changing the thread subject … there's no shortage of space, it cost's nowt and eats nowt, so your welcome. Seems a common view anyway many don’t realise the petro dollar is a vehicle of tyranny, world slavery, lies, deception, extortion and out right theft.
Its a good Idea that they be made aware that this skewed rotten system is at the heart of the energy fiasco and a deal of the worlds misery. IMHO other control leavers are in place now anyway. (as you point out) I shudder for the sake of the youth

[Muon]

Duncan:

many don’t realise the petro dollar is a vehicle of tyranny, world slavery, lies, deception, extortion and out right theft.
Its a good Idea that they be made aware that this skewed rotten system is at the heart of the energy fiasco and a deal of the worlds misery.

I agree, but I'm looking for a good .pdf or youtube on this - petro-dollar and Kissin.ger etc. Anyone have a good link?