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  • New spin on Lindemann attraction motor

    I came across a video that got me thinking on a new possibility or "spin" on Peter's Motor. From what I gathered from his great video and the little I know compared to all on the forum, I thought I would throw this idea out there and see if it has any merit.

    The attraction motor was designed with the concept of getting rid of BEMF or minimizing it to very little by not using 2 magnets but using attraction in iron instead on the rotor.

    From what I understand the magnets in the rotor in the normal system repel each other and don't attract.

    Well I think I came across another possibility of instead of the "Lindemann attraction motor" maybe<< the Lindemann "deflection" motor>>

    I think Professor Eric Laithwaite is using the similar process as Peter but the opposite of attraction. Aluminum can be used to repel/deflect magnetism as illustrated in this video starting at 6:24
    Professor Eric Laithwaite: Magnetic River 1975 - YouTube

    In this next video at the very end 17:45 Professor Eric Laithwaite shows a motor based on Aluminum as a disk rotor as a tool to test his levitation theory for MegLev trains but I think this could be adapted to the no BEMF motor. But I am not sure. Any thoughts?

    Professor Eric Laithwaite: Motors Big and Small - 1971 - YouTube
    Last edited by sykavy; 08-08-2013, 07:55 PM.

  • #2
    Thanks a lot for posting those, I really like Prof. Laithwaite, maybe check out his one on gyroscopes:

    Eric Laithwaite's lecture on gyroscopes part 1/7

    Good question. My only input would be that with the paper clip on the pencil example, he says that the paper clip cannot have a current induced into it from the magnetic field because it is not a circuit..so I think that if that's true then there would be no force from the paper clip acting counter to the magnetic field, thus no back EMF?

    BTW that demonstration on the first video of the many metal poles each moving up and down to create horizontal movement of the object was awesome. And the explanation about how the magnetic field can move objects both ways, great!

    Mike

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    • #3
      It is possible to dramatically reduce the BEMF is some motors but it does require modification. I believe the lockridge device is such a motor.

      The case would have to be split and the motor set to run in attraction.

      See drawings http://www.energeticforum.com/attach...idge-field.jpg


      The coils at 3 o'clock and 9 o'clock are powered in attraction with the armature

      once the coils at 12 and 6 o'clock are connected to a low resistance load the motor will turn with the BEMF actually being a useable output.

      Because of the geometry of modern armatures the motoring isn't as good as it could be but it does work. The motor produces lower BEMF in the powered coils resulting in higher current draw so be careful not to burn it out. with a modified armature wound as I show in the drawing the BEMF in the powered coils is even lower and the generated output and motor speed is better

      In truth the motoring action is not produced by the powered poles but by the generator poles, as the armature and powered poles are in attraction and close to their maximum attraction so there is little change in flux thus little BEMF. the coils of the armature is sweeping the face of the generator poles and thus there is much EMF generated.

      It will run on DC but gets more interesting with AC or pulsed DC

      It could be termed as an attraction motor

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      • #4
        You guys should look at our thread:



        We are running an off the shelf brushed DC motor and pulling out of it all the generated power WITHOUT modifying the motor. This can be done by running the motor either between the positives or between the negatives of two batteries. The output of the motor is greater than the input. Test it for yourselves.

        By putting loads on battery 3 in this system we are able to run MASSIVE loads on the motor without overheating the motor because of its efficiency when run this way. I believe it will change our understanding of how to run DC motors.

        We are just beginning to learn how to build a STABLE system to do this that does not run down the primary batteries, but even without a working system you can see what I told you is true.

        Dave
        Last edited by Turion; 08-11-2013, 04:35 PM.
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