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  • #16
    I don't claim free lunches exist.
    Your right its not free, it will cost you your soul.

    4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

    I know where all this is going, Im hear to warn you.
    Im not hear to cause contention, this will be my last post in this thread.

    dave
    Half of the Answer is knowing the right Question

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Dave45 View Post
      Your right its not free, it will cost you your soul.

      I know where all this is going, Im hear to warn you.
      Im not hear to cause contention, this will be my last post in this thread.

      dave
      so there ya go truesearch ... as seekers of the truth we have both been warned by Dave the christian bible babbler who admits the swastika is a force that in the end will be our undoing.

      according to dave the swastika = hell and brimstone

      I really am tired of ignorant bible babblers telling me I am going to hell for my beLIEfs.....
      Hell and all I ever do is tell the ignorant twats to wake up, put their bibles away for a spell, and get themselves a library card.

      As I have suggested to Dave on another thread...the Christians in fact have become the handmaidens of the very devil THEY FEAR, as narrated to them by their self-serving dogma that declares them the chosen winners in this race against time.

      As this great video helps to explain in the first 5 minutes

      Dear King Dave-id (id = your 'id') please do yourself a favor and watch the first 5 minutes of this video ....

      Billy Phillips discusses Jesus, Satan and your soul.
      It is ignorant you that has actually already sold his soul to the devils he fears...
      Kabbalah TV: Kabbalah and Christianity with Billy Phillips - YouTube

      selah
      Last edited by Raphael37; 07-16-2013, 01:58 PM.

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      • #18
        4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
        Dave regarding your 'cut and paste' advice I feel I must respond to this.

        You spewing that bible quotation makes EWE look rather stupid dave.
        PhDUH it is clear that Christianity with jesus hangin' like a slab of meat on the crucifix is a graven image.
        Can we associate graven with the word grave and the idea suggesting that we all will die one day?

        Funny how all of the Christians are in agreement that jesus looked like a 1960s hippie dude with long hair and flowing robe....

        WHO PUT THE IMAGE OF THE HAIRY HIPPIE JESUS INTO YOUR SEEGULLIBLE reBLEATing brain dude, PhDUH who who who planted that SEED?


        ( was it the church????)

        Clearly we have been made to beLIEve that "Jesus loves ewe" is equated with a loving heart just like the Buddha buddy.



        Considering not ONE IMAGE of the superstar boy wonder exists in REAL documented history, why is it that all of 'we the sheeple' are in agreement that jesus looks like a wispy waspy Hippie?


        IF I was going to join a CULTure that does not have any 'graven images' clearly Islam would be the better choice....or is it?

        Consider the Islamic gem called the Alhambra which contains nothing but GEOMETRIC PATTERNS, so maybe GEOMETRY is a better reflection of GOD than the wanker propaganda camPAIN calling out from the oppressive Latin Cross "jesus loves ewe'?

        So IF GEOMETRY takes us closer to understanding GOD or ALLAH, maybe the graven image of jesus the hip hippy is actually VEILING the TRUTH called golly gee GEOMETRY?

        Maybe an understanding of GEOMETRY allows us to exit, and clinging to that image of the hip hipster crafted by Satan keeps 'we the sheeple' penned in?
        Maybe jesus hangin' like a slab of meat on a crucifix is like a SIGNpost?
        Maybe what jesus was pointing us toward is the 4th dimension?



        WHAT IF the boy wonder jesus who has kept us wondering is really a GEOMETRIC prophecy detailing 4th dimensional Hypercube AHAs!!!

        Rudolf Steiner has said that the 4th dimension is a CENTRIPETAL attraction!

        64 – DNA – Mayan’s AINTIRAM – NaSSim Haramein – Tesseract – Hypercube | Alternative Thinking 37
        ZeitgeiSt meet ZnidarSic and the Hypercube | Reconciliation of Science and Religion

        Maybe Dave the bible babbler ignores the obvious whilst clinging to his pathetic narrative LITERALLY, to the detriment of his non-christian brothers and sisters?
        Maybe Dave at the end of his daze will realize he is just another ignorant punk who has been duped by folks much smarter and wiser than him...?



        I will need to think about which CULT I should join while I listen to this song....

        Yusuf Islam(Cat Stevens) - Father & Son (Porchester Hall, London 2007) - YouTube

        It is clear from those folks in the audience that Yusaf Islam (formerly Cat Stevens) sings divinely.

        And IGNORANT stupid idiot Christians think Yusaf is a black Cat, a terrorist thereby he is denied entry to the EWE.S.A?

        Hey Dave please tell me why there are NO CATS mentioned in your stupid fooking New Testament bible?
        Even though Egyptians revered them and King Solomon liked CATS too!
        Something about black CATS that make Christians spew idiot sh*t about witches too, why?

        here is something to think about

        BLACK CATS crossing your path or ignorance walking under 'Freemason ladders' is BAD LUCK ...
        But in the Orient the Swastika is associated with both GOOD LUCK ... and BATS not CATS.



        selah
        Last edited by Raphael37; 07-16-2013, 02:02 PM.

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        • #19
          here is a cut and paste from another thread where my ideas are not appreciated:

          Originally posted by Farmhand View Post
          Raphael37, Why don't you make your own thread about your idea's,
          I'm sure you would get some interest ?

          Cheers
          I have and nobody is interested in an idEA that connects so many profound idEAs together called the 'swastika'.
          It seems we can discuss god or multi universes in an infinite universe but the fact is that NEITHER of those concepts have any basis in fact, it is all conjecture and theory.

          Infinite multi universe is science BS, it is a theory that can never ever be proved...or disproved.
          God is religion BS, another concept that is beyond definition, the idea of a god can also never be proved or disproved.



          I am not laughing at you or my last statement...I just noticed you have posted 3107 times.
          Your last response to ME was your 3,107 posting...is that correct?

          I am laughing along with the multi-UNI-verse....another confirmation has been sent my way in only ways I can appreciate because my POV is unique...so is yours.
          vanna zing along with me and Vanna...on za Wheel of Fortune?


          Thanks for reminding me that we do need to introduce the numbers 137 at some point in the discussion...but we are getting ahead of ourselves here.

          137 solves many riddles...by associating them all with each other?
          137 | Search Results | Alternative Thinking 37

          And I am glad you responded Farmhand, I had forgotten about the links/associations that I had previously documented between the work of Eric and others who have also been 'touched'.
          1379 – Nikola Tesla – Eric P. Dollard – Dan Brown and Memes | Alternative Thinking 37

          selah

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          • #20
            another cut and paste from the Eric Dollard thread where 'Ignorance R US' thinks they can do an end run around what 'just is' is.

            ***************************

            Originally posted by jimm View Post
            Carnival Wheels and Prize Wheels and Accessories

            ...or maybe he already has one, but is tired of being on the road with the carnival so he's trying a new con game that doesn't require travel????
            oh I see, ignorance is bliss now wants to evolve to the next level of our discussion?

            the ad hominem attack?
            Trust me I can play that game better than you jimm.

            I AM a CON MAN?
            dude IF I AM a CON MAN ewe are the sucker PT Barnum spoke of.
            PhDUH you are the sucker who keeps coming back to be entertained by the clOWN who OWNs ewe?


            But thanks for the introduction to my next told EWE so rant jimbo or is it dumbo?
            We could use a big dumb ELIphant for our next show...we plan on electrifying the crowd with the same stunt Thomas Edison used to scare 'we the sheeple' away from a great idEA called Tesla AC.

            So how do we connect the idEA of a ROULETTE WHEEL to the Planck distance and Eric's 4 Quadrant modEL?

            And IF ignorant jimbo does not know, the PLANCK distance is essentially the fundamental LENGTH that underlies all physics.

            I learned from the scholar Livio Catullo Stecchini (a master of ancient weights and measures) that of ALL the dimensions....LENGTH is the most important because from length we can derive volume, etc.

            Below is the work of Livio regarding the Great Pyramid...as we can see his two main axis (meridians) are NOT the same...there exists an irrational pi vs. phi ASYMMETRY.



            Here is how Hamid links the ROULETTE WHEEL to QUANTUM mechanics.
            Exact Planck Length Unveils Quantum Gravity (Part 1)



            And here is how I link CARD X (the WHEEL of Fortune) to the ROULETTE WHEEL
            (1/6)^37 – Planck Length – and the Tarot | Alternative Thinking 37

            And here is how I link the ROULETTE WHEEL to the omphalos/navel and the swastika.
            OM-phalos – Nav-ELs – Wheels of Fortune – Geodetic Center | Alternative Thinking 37

            So is it jimbo or dumbo?
            Your next response will clarify who EWE really are.

            And if the fellas on this thread think Eric Dollard is more 'clever' than what the swastika can teach us about the universe on all levels of scaling ....


            ... you have not been paying attention to what 'just is' is.

            Realizing this I perceived how, with the origin of the swastika, I had found the origin of the set of primeval ideas which had governed the human race from its infancy and which, in Mexican and Central American civilizations, ultimately developed into their ingenious system of government and social organization.
            - Zelia Nuttall

            page 16: The Project Gutenberg EBook of The Fundamental Principles of Old and New World Civilizations by Zelia Nuttall
            So the reason I AM on this thread is because the swastika can help us fine tune Eric's modEL, IMHO.

            Or has it already been determined that the current modEL is the Holy Grail?

            selah V

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            • #21
              the swastika

              Raphael,

              For about 20 years, I have studied symbology. If you can keep that conversation here instead of the Eric Dollard thread, that would be great.

              The swastika is a very ancient and very profound symbol as you have laid out. It is not a Nazi symbol at all and it was used by Hitler in a way that most people do not understand.

              You state that it is asymmetrical and that is true when you see it from one side.

              However, there is an equal counter rotation that is hidden, imaginary or virtual.

              The oldest references I can find go back to the "Russian Stonehenge" era of Arkaim. The primary representation of the symbol depicted the apparent movement of the stars around the North Star from Earth's perspective and that was about it.

              If we look at this counter rotation, counter flow, etc... E.T. Whittaker discusses the simultaneous bi-directional flows over a wire...you have the positive component and then you have the anti-component, which is the "negative" component in the opposite direction.

              Negative in this sense of course does not represent anything evil, nefarious or satanic. It is just negative in the sense that it is not necessarily an opposite but a complement to the forward.

              With Hitler and the influence from the Thule Society - which you will know preceded the the SS or Schwarze Sonne (black sun), that is where the counter-rotating swastika came from. It wasn't supposed to represent evil, but it is a representation of the imaginary, counter, anti or "opposite" energy, which for all intents and purposes represented the Vril or Aetheric potential of the universe. Today, it would be the "dark energy", etc...

              So as it is stated by E.T. Whittaker and others, the counter bi-directional flow of energy, negative energy, etc... is the complementary pair to the forward rotating swastika. That means, there are two swastikas that are in different directions. One is the tangible physical world and the other is the counter, virtual negative energy world.

              Together, it creates a symmetrical pair of positive and negative energies.

              On that level of topology, there can be potential differences established, which will then break the symmetry of the aether and that will influence both the positive and negative energies to separate their charges and go to their own respective points on a dipole that will manifest as work in measurable joules of energy - aka - real measurable work.

              So, obviously many people have it wrong about the swastika and what Hitler's use was for it. Although I firmly see Hitler as an evil nutcase, the use of the swastika in the case of the common "Nazi" symbol is depicting the use of the aether or the invisible or dark light just like "dark energy" that the physicists of today refer to because they're too scared to admit it was the aether the whole time.

              With Hitler's intentions, he is simply using an ancient symbol, that appears to actually PREDATE ancient Hindu usage, in a perverted way for his own means.

              Anyway, just my 2 cents that the normal "forward" swastika cannot be separated from it's imaginary or virtual complement, which show it is actually symmetrical and balanced - just like the yin an yang. They are not opposites, they are complements and there is a huge difference.
              Sincerely,
              Aaron Murakami

              Books, Videos, ESTC Conference Info, Blog, etc. https://emediapress.com

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              • #22
                this is a response I decided to post here instead of the Eric Dollard thread.

                Originally posted by mr.clean View Post
                hi Raphael, i like ur enthusiasm, and i am a die hard Dollard fanatic, memorized much of his posted stuff, its all i do, since before tech zombies posted vids.

                have replicated some of his work, i am kdkinen on YouTube as u can appreciate builders.

                i apologize for sounding rude, and im not sure how day jobs got into this, but sure i respect whatever you are doing.
                and it would be sweet if so called swaz geometry was the end-all solution, just that i have never seen it come up til now

                anyway i hate to add to the senseless commotion here, and then the reoccurring odd geometry here kinda got me. lol
                but good luck with that man!


                swaz geometry is all I do...
                ME and the SwaZ have few friends...would you be our friend?
                >>> https://www.facebook.com/pages/SSS-S...20420841301320

                I was recently gifted with two books/articles sent my way by the powers that be.

                swastika = meanders = algorithms
                please read all 15 pages


                Celtic Art = swastika and science
                please read pages 22-37


                bottom line it is easy to show a link between ART and SCIENCE and RELIGION using the MEdiator called the swastika.
                bottom line it is easy to show how the swastika explains SPACE, TIME, and MOTION.
                bottom line it is easy to show how the swastika was associated with ALL CULTS >>> i.e. Stellar, Lunar, and Solar.
                bottom line the centrifugal and centripetal MOTION defaults to CW and CCW swastika rotations....
                bottom line the reason the swastika is a special geometric form is because it can polarize/bend/refract light.
                bottom line is IF you try to discuss sacred geometry and you ignore the swastika, PhDUH you are clearly a sheeple.

                free energy?

                bottom line is that we can use the swastika to explain MIRACLES like feeding 5000 of 'we the sheeple' using only 5 loaves of bread and 2 fish.

                WHAT IF jeSuS is veiling the SwaStika?

                see ya in nirvana manna
                I will be waiting...



                Oops I forgot to mention that I am headed down to the U. of Toronto library today to check out this book:

                Stupa and Swastika: Historical Urban Planning Principles in Nepal's Kathmandu Valley: Amazon.ca: Mohan Pant, Shuji Funo: Books



                I vonder what the connection is between building a STUPA and building something sacred like Solomon's Temple?

                selah

                p.s. the ignorant of course only see SSS when they lay eyes on ME.

                S wastika
                S tupa
                S tupid

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Aaron View Post
                  Raphael,

                  For about 20 years, I have studied symbology. If you can keep that conversation here instead of the Eric Dollard thread, that would be great.
                  no problemo

                  Originally posted by Aaron View Post

                  The swastika is a very ancient and very profound symbol as you have laid out. It is not a Nazi symbol at all and it was used by Hitler in a way that most people do not understand.
                  Are you familiar with Godwin's Law Aaron?
                  Try NOT to mention Hitler or Nazis when discussing the swastika with me....because IF you do....I must invoke Godwin's Law.

                  Godwin's law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                  Originally posted by Aaron View Post
                  You state that it is asymmetrical and that is true when you see it from one side.
                  Sorry Aaron but BOTH swastikas, CW and CCW are asymmetrical.

                  Do you want me to define geometric asymmetry for you, I wonder if Einstein knew what asymmetry was???

                  Originally posted by Aaron View Post
                  However, there is an equal counter rotation that is hidden, imaginary or virtual.
                  I am not sure what you mean by that statement?

                  I have found only the following symbols come in TWO flavors.
                  i.e. denoting a CW or CCW rotation or preference, or what physics calls 'handedness'.

                  L/R swastikas
                  L/R eyes of Horus
                  L/R spirals
                  L/R hands
                  L/R sides of our body as recognized in Heraldry
                  L/R sides of our brain
                  L/R feet of the Buddha


                  So Aaron I am collecting symbols that discuss Left vs. Right ... what else has your 20 years of study revealed?

                  All of the above examples I can prove are ASYMMETRIC 'mirror' images of each other...

                  Originally posted by Aaron View Post
                  The oldest references I can find go back to the "Russian Stonehenge" era of Arkaim. The primary representation of the symbol depicted the apparent movement of the stars around the North Star from Earth's perspective and that was about it.
                  Sorry oldest reference is the one Joseph Campbell showed me.
                  It goes back to 10,000 BC.

                  We remember using IMAGES.
                  Our memories store IMAGES that are worth 1000 or maybe 10,000 words.
                  What did I remember as a former firefighter when I saw the IMAGES of Arkaim?

                  Here is what I saw, it resonated with what I had been wearing as a BADGE for many many years...



                  source of images and AHAs
                  Swastika City – Arkaim – Tracking the Aryans | Alternative Thinking 37

                  Also in China the swastika called the 'wan' or the 'lei wen' just happens to have a value of 10,000.

                  Originally posted by Aaron View Post
                  If we look at this counter rotation, counter flow, etc... E.T. Whittaker discusses the simultaneous bi-directional flows over a wire...you have the positive component and then you have the anti-component, which is the "negative" component in the opposite direction.
                  of course....because some things 'just is'

                  Originally posted by Aaron View Post

                  Negative in this sense of course does not represent anything evil, nefarious or satanic. It is just negative in the sense that it is not necessarily an opposite but a complement to the forward.
                  Agreed.
                  'we the sheeple' attach far too many negative ideas to the word negative.

                  Negative ions are in fact POSITIVE for our consumption.
                  Where do we find such NEGATIVITY?

                  Follow Moses to the mountaintop.
                  Follow Jesus down to the Sea of Galilee.
                  Follow Mohammed or Plato into a cave**.

                  All three paths lead to NEGATIVE ions.
                  And once you arrive at your destination do not forget to meditate and suck in those ions...

                  **A cave with a waterfall entrance is extra special as a negative ion generaator...

                  Originally posted by Aaron View Post
                  With Hitler and the influence from the Thule Society - which you will know preceded the the SS or Schwarze Sonne (black sun), that is where the counter-rotating swastika came from.
                  Sorry but that is complete bunk, a rumor spread around the bunkers by folks trying to create a MOVEMENT based on a symbol that means MOVEMENT.

                  Can I suggest we let the Persians or Buddhists define the swastika instead of that wanker Hitler raised as a Roman Catholic?

                  “Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth.”
                  -Buddha

                  source of quote:
                  “Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth.” Buddha | Fake Buddha Quotes

                  So now that we have established a 'simplicity' regarding the Buddha buddy what else is to be learned from the Sun and the Moon regarding the TRUTH?



                  Originally posted by Aaron View Post
                  It wasn't supposed to represent evil, but it is a representation of the imaginary, counter, anti or "opposite" energy, which for all intents and purposes represented the Vril or Aetheric potential of the universe. Today, it would be the "dark energy", etc...
                  True.

                  regarding 'evil'
                  I feel superstitious sheeple driven by fear and ignorance have distorted its true meaning.

                  Originally posted by Aaron View Post
                  So as it is stated by E.T. Whittaker and others, the counter bi-directional flow of energy, negative energy, etc... is the complementary pair to the forward rotating swastika. That means, there are two swastikas that are in different directions. One is the tangible physical world and the other is the counter, virtual negative energy world.

                  Together, it creates a symmetrical pair of positive and negative energies.
                  You are NOT familiar with my work, are you Aaron?

                  NANO World APPLICATIONS for the SWASTIKA – the true blue AVATAR | Alternative Thinking 37
                  The NANO swastika could teach you a few things as it did me.

                  Originally posted by Aaron View Post
                  On that level of topology, there can be potential differences established, which will then break the symmetry of the aether and that will influence both the positive and negative energies to separate their charges and go to their own respective points on a dipole that will manifest as work in measurable joules of energy - aka - real measurable work.
                  Agreed.

                  On another level of topology was the mantra Arbeit Macht Frei invoked...?

                  Originally posted by Aaron View Post
                  So, obviously many people have it wrong about the swastika and what Hitler's use was for it.
                  Hitler coveted the symbol that represents MOVEMENT for his MOVEMENT?

                  PhDUH he was a smart cookie or was he crackers?

                  Originally posted by Aaron View Post
                  Although I firmly see Hitler as an evil nutcase, the use of the swastika in the case of the common "Nazi" symbol is depicting the use of the aether or the invisible or dark light just like "dark energy" that the physicists of today refer to because they're too scared to admit it was the aether the whole time.
                  Hans Alfven thought his peers are idiots too.

                  Originally posted by Aaron View Post
                  With Hitler's intentions, he is simply using an ancient symbol, that appears to actually PREDATE ancient Hindu usage, in a perverted way for his own means.
                  You really need to go to my swastika-Nano link to see how EASY it is to connect NANO technology to the pre-christian Jain Cross.



                  Originally posted by Aaron View Post
                  Anyway, just my 2 cents that the normal "forward" swastika cannot be separated from it's imaginary or virtual complement, which show it is actually symmetrical and balanced - just like the yin an yang. They are not opposites, they are complements and there is a huge difference.
                  thanks for your 2 cents...would you be willing to spend another penny for my Thoth thoughts on the matter?



                  The evolution of the KEY PATTERN.

                  yes Aaron as my last image shows, the geometry of the swastika gives birth to the yin yang and and and ....

                  “…The Amphora, the Rosetta Fractal, DNA and the Holy Grail” | Reconciliation of Science and Religion
                  The above link suggests the following are also the progeny of the swastika >>> the flower of life, the seed of life, star of david, and of course the Merkabaa baa baa, the cosmic ark that many of 'we the sheeple' await to take them to lalalala land.

                  And this link clearly shows how we can link the KEY PATTERN - aka MEANDER - to the SWASTIKA and ALGORITHMs..




                  Aaron thanks for letting me spew my evil levi vril vile files on your website....

                  selah V

                  p.s.
                  you might want to check out my response previous to this one.
                  Last edited by Raphael37; 07-19-2013, 04:24 PM.

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                  • #24
                    some sheeple never know when to call it quits...

                    Originally posted by jimm
                    Raphael37:

                    You have advertized your swastika thread numerous times now.
                    Anybody who is interested has surely gone there buy now.
                    Is it that hard to give up "carnival barking"?
                    Despite your best efforts it's one of the least visited threads on the board.
                    Please take a hint.

                    The moderator should give you talking to.

                    A lot of the language you use is "could be , maybe, etc. which indicates that you have nothing solid.

                    All of the previously mentioned "swastika civilizations" are extinct, including the more recent Third Riecht . We all know what that was about...
                    So, if it is anything special at all, one might conclude that it's the path to extinction.
                    the moderator should tell a wanker like you spewing LIES LIES LIES to STFU.

                    what's the matter jimbo, the TRUTH hard to swallow?
                    your ignorance is NOT my bliss....

                    ALL of the swastika CULTures are not extinct dude.
                    Might I add neither is your kind of ignorance.
                    I would rather see IGNORANCE banished and have the swastika fill the vacuum.
                    The Christian missionaries have got chased out of south east Asia and China numerous times...why?

                    BeLIEf systems aka clash of the titans???

                    Clearly the world's biggest statue with a swastika over its heART is NOT a dead CULTure.
                    Tallest Statue in the World - Spring Temple Buddha - YouTube

                    jimbo/dumbo why can't you ignore my posts or should I say ignore the links I provide for those who want an alternate POV?

                    Do you wanna LIE down on my couch jimbo and tell ME why the swastika makes your skin crawl?
                    Is it because you were told 'jesus loves ewe'?

                    hey jimbo stop being a dumbo dude...
                    I have a simpleton theory that is based on OX.



                    The OX TOE

                    A hug and a kiss based on a theory that defaults to the swastika.

                    selah V
                    Last edited by Raphael37; 07-19-2013, 05:09 PM.

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                    • #25
                      Vril, Sacred Symbol of Mu

                      "Sorry oldest reference is the one Joseph Campbell showed me.
                      It goes back to 10,000 BC."

                      There are 3 "Arkaim" locations, not one. The oldest is thought to be built in 7000bc, which makes it 9000 years old, but there is some evidence that the original site was actually established 10000-11000bc, making it 12-13000 years old.

                      I don't know how much of James Churchward's work on the "Lost Continent of Mu" is valid, but there is this symbol that was supposedly found in South America on some tablets:



                      The story is that the tablets were saved from Mu before it sank.

                      Obviously we can't verify all of that, but what is known to be a fact is that this exact same symbol was tattooed on an old woman's hand in Okinawa.

                      We know that much of the land around Okinawa at some point going back 12000bc+ years ago was all above water - or the water was below that level. But some evidence shows these ancient civilizations may have existed MANY 10's of thousands of years ago. There are huge pyramids, countless artifacts, etc... all over the place under the water around Okinawa and the rest of the Ryuku Islands. Looking at the geography, it is obvious that you could walk on land from Okinawa to Taiwan at some point.

                      In any case, that symbol has somehow existed in Okinawa for countless generations and is 100% identical to the symbol that Churchward shows giving some credit to the idea of the "Lost Continent of Mu". Whether it was a whole continent or not, I don't know, but for a fact, there was some huge civilization where Okinawa is and it it spanned across a very large area.

                      So the evidence actually points to the possibility that this particular symbol even pre-dates Arkaim's swastikas.

                      I tried to search for this picture of the Okinawan woman's hand tattoo. It was online 12-13 years ago and I can't find it. I know I have it in my archives somewhere.

                      Obviously there is some speculation here, but it is a profound fact that the symbol does exist in Okinawa and had been passed down generation after generation for many years.

                      ---------------

                      The explanation that Hitler used the Swastika to represent forward movement is a superficial explanation that is used to keep people in the dark about the real underlying representation of the "dark light" or invisible aetheric potential of the universe. It requires a look into the history of the formation of the SS, the roots in the Thule Society and the studies of Vril to know this.

                      Hitler, Schumann (of the Schumann resonance) and company were deep into the occult teachings. Obviously this is known. What is lesser known is that Hitler, Schumann and company had their regular meetings at a hotel room with a couple of women that were claimed to be "channeling" information from another star system.

                      During those meetings, the information that was supposedly gained from these communications with ET's from the other star system included plans for a time machine, which was to be used by Hitler. This was the genesis of the the research and development into Nazi saucers such as the Hannebu I, II, etc... first conventionally powered by BMW Motors, then Hans Coler's "free energy" circuits that seemed to be doped with radioactive substances (those reports were declassified by British Intelligence), Schauberger's involvement with anti-gravity methods and so on.

                      The entire theme revolved around the mastery of the "dark light" from the Black Sun "Schwarze Sonne" (SS) as a form of energy that can be harnessed for powering saucers, other machines and even a time machine. This quite literally was one of the driving passions of Hitler.

                      The common explanations for what Hitler's use of the Swastika represented were for the uninitiated who had no knowledge of the secret teachings about the Vril (qi, ki, prana, aether, dark energy, etc...).
                      Sincerely,
                      Aaron Murakami

                      Books, Videos, ESTC Conference Info, Blog, etc. https://emediapress.com

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Aaron View Post
                        "Sorry oldest reference is the one Joseph Campbell showed me.
                        It goes back to 10,000 BC."

                        There are 3 "Arkaim" locations, not one. The oldest is thought to be built in 7000bc, which makes it 9000 years old, but there is some evidence that the original site was actually established 10000-11000bc, making it 12-13000 years old.
                        well I didn't know that...any links would be appreciated.

                        those older ARKaim dates by coincidence is confirmed by Gobekli Tepe dated to about 10,000 BC.

                        In China the word for swastika is wan and it also has a value of 10,000.
                        But the swastika from Mezine Ukraine that Joseph Campbell pointed out to me...I happened to notice it has a 3 + 1 asymmetry to the pattern.



                        I highlighted in orange what I mean.

                        Note that three of the 5 are in the same position and one 5 has been rotated 90 degrees.

                        Originally posted by Aaron View Post

                        I don't know how much of James Churchward's work on the "Lost Continent of Mu" is valid, but there is this symbol that was supposedly found in South America on some tablets:


                        That same image, a variation of that swastika is also found in Rome.

                        Did you know James Churchward who was a Freemason had a younger brother Albert who was also a Freemason?
                        What James Churchward and his brother Albert put on the table to be considered for consumption should not be discounted.

                        1921 - November
                        Creates illustrations for 'Lecture on the Origins of Freemasonry'.

                        Sent to younger brother, Albert Churchward in London, England
                        My-Mu.com: James' Timeline
                        Albert published in 1915 one of those Freemason books that actually discusses the swastika. .... unlike the popular new age authors (the false prophets who seek profits) who all seem to IGNORE it.

                        The Arcana of Freemasonry
                        free pdf. The arcana of freemasonry : Churchward, Albert : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive

                        Originally posted by Aaron View Post

                        The story is that the tablets were saved from Mu before it sank.

                        Obviously we can't verify all of that, but what is known to be a fact is that this exact same symbol was tattooed on an old woman's hand in Okinawa.
                        Agreed it is nearly impossible to verify but there is evidence suggesting that what JChurchward was offering as evidence cannot be totally dismissed.
                        After all we are still trying to verify/confirm the age of the Sphinx and it is in plain sight.

                        But here is what we can verify regarding the following Mu symbol.
                        Please take note of the 3 M E W shapes that I have highlighted in red.



                        Here is what JC wrote about glyph #5.

                        5. This glyph forms the word Geometrician. This word is written within each of the Four Forces. So here it is called The Four Great Geometricians - The Four Great Primary Forces. They are the Primary Forces because they are depicted as coming directly from the Creator Himself.
                        And the image I have placed beside it I offer as evidence that the Mu swastika has some basis in fact not fiction.
                        The image I offer has been given dates ranging from 4000-6000 BC.
                        The image I offer is controversial....the scholars are debating whether or not the swastika in the middle is authentic or a 'touch up'.



                        The Samarra bowl (ca. 4000 BC) at on exhibit at the Pergamonmuseum, Berlin.

                        The bowl was excavated as Samarra by Ernst Herzfeld in the 1911-1914 campaign, and described in a 1930 publication. The design consists of a rim, a circle of eight fish, and four fish swimming towards the center being caught by four birds. At the center is a swastika symbol.

                        The bowl was broken, part of the rim is missing, and one crack ran right across the central symbol, so that the swastika symbol should be considered a reconstruction.
                        And the reason I suggest some self anointed scholars debate its authenticity is because as we all know....long ago the SS or Sweet Spot in the center was more or less reserved for 'gods' ... etc.

                        Which can be confirmed in fact...that the swastika was associated with god.

                        Here is another Freemason deep throat source who is not shy about suggesting the swastika is divine.
                        This was written in 1923.
                        It is the last paragraph of a 463 page book.
                        It is the final conclusion this 32 degree Freemason arrived at after a 7+ year study.



                        Originally posted by Aaron View Post

                        In any case, that symbol has somehow existed in Okinawa for countless generations and is 100% identical to the symbol that Churchward shows giving some credit to the idea of the "Lost Continent of Mu".
                        I agree with your summation.

                        However I do want to point something out regarding how difficult it is for a fella like me to share GREAT RESEARCH!!!

                        The famous writer/researcher Graham Hancock who helped put the Okinawa site on the map for those seeking some truth....has one major fault to his self serving research, and I call it self-serving because Graham is no dummy and most of his writings are targeting a judeao-christian readership.

                        Let me present the major anomaLIE to the work of Graham Hancock whose work centers primarily on human origins....

                        I have five of Graham Hancocks best sellers...and not ONE of them lists the swastika in its index.

                        Originally posted by Aaron View Post
                        The explanation that Hitler used the Swastika to represent forward movement is a superficial explanation that is used to keep people in the dark about the real underlying representation of the "dark light" or invisible aetheric potential of the universe. It requires a look into the history of the formation of the SS, the roots in the Thule Society and the studies of Vril to know this.
                        Yes you confirm what I suggest.
                        The reason Hitler and company (and the Buddha buddy) all 'coveted' the swastika as the symbol for their paradigm changing MOVEMENTS is because the swastika as Jay Harman points out represents MOVEMENT.

                        Confirmed by what Gandhi wrote about the Jaina swastika prior to 1894.



                        Originally posted by Aaron View Post

                        Hitler, Schumann (of the Schumann resonance) and company were deep into the occult teachings. Obviously this is known. What is lesser known is that Hitler, Schumann and company had their regular meetings at a hotel room with a couple of women that were claimed to be "channeling" information from another star system.
                        .... very interesting .... do you beLIEve folks can channel Aaron?

                        I did not know Hitler and Schumann did lunch.

                        Originally posted by Aaron View Post
                        During those meetings, the information that was supposedly gained from these communications with ET's from the other star system included plans for a time machine, which was to be used by Hitler. This was the genesis of the the research and development into Nazi saucers such as the Hannebu I, II, etc... first conventionally powered by BMW Motors, then Hans Coler's "free energy" circuits that seemed to be doped with radioactive substances (those reports were declassified by British Intelligence), Schauberger's involvement with anti-gravity methods and so on.
                        ETs all sounds very interesting, however the interesting thing is I feel when folks are offering theories and it defaults to UFOs and aLIEns, my feeling is that the holes in their theories need to be plugged with something, like UFOs and aLIEns.

                        IMHO a UFO till we can prove otherwise is a

                        U nidentified
                        F ascist
                        O bject

                        Originally posted by Aaron View Post
                        The entire theme revolved around the mastery of the "dark light" from the Black Sun "Schwarze Sonne" (SS) as a form of energy that can be harnessed for powering saucers, other machines and even a time machine. This quite literally was one of the driving passions of Hitler.

                        The common explanations for what Hitler's use of the Swastika represented were for the uninitiated who had no knowledge of the secret teachings about the Vril (qi, ki, prana, aether, dark energy, etc...).
                        All of that is very interesting and in light of what you have offered here is what I pulled out of the hat, out of thin air.

                        I call it a RECOVERY.

                        And if you beLIEve folks can channel I challenge YOU to prove what I have been 'channeling' is BS.

                        Yes please prove to ME that this link I offer is nonsense and has NO basis in fact.

                        Story of the W and Z – Sator Square – Twistor String Theory – Penrose & Schwaller & Witten & Wedekind | Alternative Thinking 37

                        The above research links the work of PAST and PRESENT genius recovered....aka Witten, Penrose, Schwaller, Wedekind.
                        Hey Aaron how would you like to have your name added to the above names, because I need help in solving this puzzle...

                        namaste

                        Raphael
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                          SWASTIKA is an algorithm that mother nature employs

                          i.e. SPIRAL found in Mandelbrot/Julia

                          This is something that just dawned on me the other day. The swastika can be thought of as a geometrical hieroglyph for complex number multiplication (the basis for rendering the Mandelbrot and Julia sets). Specifically, multiplication by the complex number i (the square root of -1). I made this nifty diagram to illustrate the point, because I'm going to put in on my site at some stage:



                          image source: Connection between the swastika and Mandelbrot/Julia fractals - The Phora
                          FRACTALS – KEYHOLE – DNA – GOBEKLI TEPE – ANKH – LAPIS EXILLIS | Alternative Thinking 37
                          more info linking the FRACTALS to SOUND using the swastika

                          the swastika is THE missing link btw....

                          AHA!
                          ...the 3 vs. 4 archetype presents itself again.

                          tetra vs. tri



                          I love this tetraskele glyph used in music as a sign for 'repeat' is in fact the style of swastika that we can find in a fractal which in essence 'repeats' patterns.

                          here is more 'archetypal/symbolic proof that a rotating wheel/disc with radiating arms can be associated to music.



                          The 45 RPM plastic insert is a symbol for the music enthusiast.

                          And the 45 rpm reminds me of two other objects from antiquity and countless modern adaptations, such as adapters for 45s.



                          The triskelion (3 radiating legs instead of arms) which is used on the flag for the country that is in fact the GEODETIC center of the British Isles. i.e. the Isle of Man...
                          And the same idea is found at Newgrange 3500 BC as triple spirals.
                          Isle of Man was the last Norse stronghold in Britain until around the 12-13 centuries A.D.

                          And the US department of transport (i.e. concerns itself with 'MOVEMENT') also adopted this symbol.

                          Why do the symbols mirror the idea, are they designed too?

                          Are advertisers today the first to realize 'geometry' speaks to the passive right brain?



                          The three-bladed radiation warning symbol, as we currently know it, was "doodled" out at the University of California Radiation Laboratory in Berkeley sometime in 1946 by a small group of people. This event was described in a letter written in 1952 by Nels Garden, head of the Health Chemistry Group at the Radiation Laboratory: "A number of people in the group took an interest in suggesting different motifs, and the one arousing the most interest was a design which was supposed to represent activity radiating from an atom."
                          The ORAU Museum of Radiation and Radioactivity chronicles the scientific and commercial history of radioactivity and radiation. It has been deemed the official repository for historical radiological instruments by the Health Physics Society, and is located at the Pollard Center in Oak Ridge, Tennessee.
                          Always being on the lookout for more evidence of wisdom regarding ASYMMETRY, I did find this comment interesting:

                          When viewed edge on the vessel's flat bowl shape does not show perfect symmetry (Anthony Sakovich personal comm., see Fig. 7).

                          The Tomb of Sabu and The Tri-lobed "Schist" Bowl


                          Evidently the scholars/experts cannot agree on what the SchiSt disk was used for ...

                          PhDUH this disk was found in a tomb beside the DEAD guy, positioned near his SS SchiSt aSS!

                          PhDUH why does the modern 'nuclear/radiation' symbol which is identical in its basic form to the SchiSt disk, 4000+ years later its form can be linked to the idea of radiation being harmful, i.e. get out of the area, or eventual DEATH may result?

                          Finding this 'symbol' (schist disk) in a tomb next to a dead guy and denying its potential associations to us moderns linking radiation to death is not good intuitive science ... especially considering the obvious, this was a CULTure that was obsessed with death and ritual. PhDUH!

                          Yup the wanker who doodled the 'nuclear/radiation' symbol back in 1946, his noddle that doodles is so much more tuned into the bigger picture than Sabu was?

                          It is official the idiots are running the asylum.

                          I AM incensed, hey PhDUHs maybe za SS SchiSt dizk vaz hinting at zomething far more profound than vhat haz been zuggested zo far...?

                          selah V
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                            As it turns out the swastika has its asymmetrical hand in so many things because it is the grid, it is the Matrix, it is ThE NET.

                            The NET – the SEED PATTERN – SWASTIKA – WINDMILLS of the MIND – SOUND is KEY – the MATRIX | Alternative Thinking 37

                            selah V

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                              NOBEL PRIZES – The Importance of Asymmetry and How Einstein Made Asymmetry, the AEther, the Atma and the Swastika Disappear

                              NOBEL PRIZES – The Importance of Asymmetry and How Einstein Made Asymmetry, the AEther, the Atma and the Swastika Disappear | Alternative Thinking 37

                              selah V

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                                Swastika Plate 5000 BC is a Model of the Milky Way | Science and Religion Reconciled with a little help from my friends

                                “fish don’t’ swim, they’re swum and birds don’t fly, they’re flown”
                                -Viktor Schauberger
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