Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera

[Ufopolitics]

@ Bro Mikey only...

Hello Bro Mikey!!


I will come to your rescue (like most of times uh?)...

Electric Engineer Clemente Figuera had a "Vision"...after carefully observing how electric generators operate while running...He visualized what Virtual Magnetic Fields were -basically- doing by rotating within the induced coils...then came to a very logical conclusion...

That looking from the point of view from the Induced Electromagnets...all the Virtual Magnetic Field was doing....was getting closer to fully alignment engagement, full magnetization... to then fade away...and so this Cycle will repeat over and over through time...

So, he thought of the possibility to "Mimic" this Virtual Magnetic Field Operation...by fluctuating the currents which feed electromagnets...but electromagnets (Exciters) being Static...and so also the already Static Induced Electromagnets...so the "plan" was just to fluctuate the Virtual Field Spatially back and forth...

The Figuera Machine shown in the 1908 Patent (his final work after his sudden and unexpected death weeks after patent publication, as signing some sort of "deal" with Bankers...) was His Final design...

Figuera Mimics the close and far virtual fields by making the static electromagnets weaker then stronger by Currents Fluctuations through time.

This is done without allowing Field to collapse (field flat line at zero) nor go negative (reverse)...just because these two options (collapse or reverse) never take place in any existing and operational generator up to now..

So, this is it...Figuera was very different from all the rest...even up to now...since He had the Capability to see in the Invisible...the Non Physical, Massless, weightless therefore Non Physical Magnetic Field...completely and independently observation... from any Material Magnetic Carrier...the electromagnet...not like Classic Magnetism has dedicated the last two centuries to study just these Material Iron Cores...by sprinkling even more iron on top...in dust shape...

Some people are not even able to see even the material things taking place around them...just because their very low ability of observation, much less of analysis...so then imagine...how could they possibly be able to see in the invisible?

Bright minds are able to see there, where those retards can't...observe carefully...then conclude...then innovate...then invent.

It should be very obvious to deduct that moving a weightless, massless field that can go through every single mass on planet effortlessly...will cost very cheap to do...while obtaining huge amounts of Induced Energy (Figuera Machine was conceived for Industrial Production)


Hope you could understand now Figuera main purpose and achievement.

Now, to fluctuate currents he is using a simple and Elementary Example...a row of resistors on Patent, as an easier form of understanding currents fluctuations in his specific fashion...then we will get into the going on arguments here and on other thread...about the "means" to achieve currents fluctuations...

And the way I understand the word "Example"...is that there are more than one possibility to achieve Main task...right?

However, the main, basic and interesting idea where the whole thing revolves around...is all written above.


Regards Friend, and so I hope you get involved in building it later on...



Ufopolitics

[bistander]

Source of photos

I see the opposite wound coils in so many inventors claims and
out of all of these threads I can't find one good video that shows me
that I would get some extra energy.

Yeah, I would be interested in seeing a real live device that works
and if this is not done then we all need to move on to something practical.

I see coils and more coils with no rhyme or reason why, I see endless
wiring patterns with all sorts of pulses, spaces, duration's, rest periods
it's ridiculousness. All good for an exercise I suppose.

People building devices that function should be so consumed for so long
that a repeated explanation will come second nature in order to shed
light on a subject. When the expression of basis of a working unit is not
present it makes people wonder if anyone building really knows what they
are looking for.

Re-inventing the wheel is a frustrated title of itself where the impossible
is done without any outside help and is a slam. In other words I must do
everything myself from scratch as I am getting no help. This is the
basic thought of the thread.

It is every man for himself and no one can tell me anything mainly
because no one understands the next man's reasoning.

It is a lost feeling coming out of the title, a free for all, every man on
his own with many boasting that they have all of the answers while
showing no proof.

If I have missed any ideas on this thread please feel free to show me
the error of my ways. For me a single demonstration could put it all to
bed but no one is able to deliver.

Hey BM,

This has to be the most coherent post I've seen from you. The new meds must be kicking in

Where did you get the pics? Your own? Russian blog? Did the guy run it and record output from secondary coil?

Thanks,

bi

[seaad]

Meanwhile we are waiting for the minute of truth to be reached in the forbidden thread we others have to search what is causing OU in the Figuera concept.

UFOpolitics have some wild idea about (quote)

"" Spatial Magnetic Field Fluctuations ,Wake up!!, main point here is that Virtual Fields Fluctuations Displacement DO Generate an Induction on Secondaries...""

Any wild idea HERE, guys??

[BroMikey]

I see the opposite wound coils in so many inventors claims and
out of all of these threads I can't find one good video that shows me
that I would get some extra energy.

Yeah, I would be interested in seeing a real live device that works
and if this is not done then we all need to move on to something practical.

I see coils and more coils with no rhyme or reason why, I see endless
wiring patterns with all sorts of pulses, spaces, duration's, rest periods
it's ridiculousness. All good for an exercise I suppose.

People building devices that function should be so consumed for so long
that a repeated explanation will come second nature in order to shed
light on a subject. When the expression of basis of a working unit is not
present it makes people wonder if anyone building really knows what they
are looking for.

Re-inventing the wheel is a frustrated title of itself where the impossible
is done without any outside help and is a slam. In other words I must do
everything myself from scratch as I am getting no help. This is the
basic thought of the thread.

It is every man for himself and no one can tell me anything mainly
because no one understands the next man's reasoning.

It is a lost feeling coming out of the title, a free for all, every man on
his own with many boasting that they have all of the answers while
showing no proof.

If I have missed any ideas on this thread please feel free to show me
the error of my ways. For me a single demonstration could put it all to
bed but no one is able to deliver.

[hanon1492]

If you got a notice you were temporarily banned for 7 days, disregard that. We thought Marathon Man's complaint was for you posting in his thread. Your membership is active.

MM,
Well, we see how you are. Trying to get rid of any different opinion to yours. Typical from dictators. I did not know you were working to get me banned from this forum.

Marathonman, you are an snake.

From now on you are for me SnakeMan.

[BroMikey]

I guess you guys are so confusing me, I don't know what the experiment is.
It is no wonder everyone is frustrated with the next man's viewpoint. It
would be very helpful if once in a while someone would take the time to
be generous enough to slow down to make clear.

I see all different designs which is commendable amounts of work and
everyone is building hardware. So the question is, who can show any
extra?

It looks like the waves overlap or cancel and this moves lenz out of the way
long enough to get something else?

I don't really know, so please explain the goal one more time.

If I could see an experiment that gives any extra I might consider it, but
all of this talk of who is the biggest and who has a screw loose makes
no never mind without the proof.

[admin]

@Marathonman

While this is an open thread i choose to not post here except to confront your BS.
my thread is closed because of people like you that constantly attack me for no reason other than pissed off that i took your lousy 15 minutes of fame away.
you have been riding off your translation of the patent since 2012 and have done NOTHING since to promote the Figuera device. even your translation was wrong with missing translations and sentences. you have NO research of your own except the NN fields and that is it. your attempt at constructing the primaries and secondaries ended it a COMPLETE DISASTER and NOTHING WORKED. all the information i have was given to you but you have NO ability to understand it.
YOU ARE WRONG HANON.
all you do is post different patents in an attempt to fool people that you have your own research, in which you have NONE. you have even been to my research photos and graphs to many times to count copying my research because you don't have the ability to figure it out on your own. YES HANON I KNOW YOU VISIT MY RESEARCH ALMOST DAILY. talk about a HYPOCRITE TO THE THIRD DEGREE.

YOU ARE THE FRAUD HANON not me. every thing i post has come true. SO WHAT pert G needed a little tweek, WHO CARES.
you are JEALOUS like no tomorrow and can't stand it that I have pushed this device to the next level NOT YOU.
i get email's and pm's all the time about people saying YOU ARE WRONG and DO NOTHING TO PROMOTE THE DEVICE. all you bring to the table is a mouth full of BS.

LEAVE ME AND MY RESEARCH ALONE AND GET A LIFE. my thread is for people that agree with my findings. maybe not 100 % but they still agree and we are working together to complete this device.
all this thread does is bad mouth me with NO RESEARCH AT ALL. WOW ! now that is so sad and says a lot about you and the other thread members. YOU ARE SICK IN THE HEAD AND NEED PROFESSIONAL HELP.

I DON"T CARE ANYTHING ABOUT YOU AND YOUR SILLY BS AND NEITHER DOES ANYONE ON MY THREAD OR MY FOLLOWERS.

so please stop EMBARRASSING YOUR SELF AND ENTERGETIC FORUM like you have been. try acting like an adult instead of a drama queen and get to work on this device.
DO NOT POST ON MY SITE IN RETALIATION. just get on with your life and quite being a COMPLETE COWARD if you can.

NOBODY WANTS YOU OR NEEDS YOUR BS especially on MY THREAD so please STOP THE BS TODAY, RIGHT NOW !

Please do not send us any more complaints because you disagree with someone. That is not the purpose for the option to report a post. If Hanon posts in your thread, that is a different story since Hanon was asked to not post there, but this is not your thread.

[admin]

@Hanon

If anyone read my previous post and yours they can judge for themselves who is the mental unbalanced person.

Admit you were wrong, and stop telling BS about me and anyone who criticise you. All we are waiting is some technical reasoning to defend your proposals, but you only know how to insult.

If you insult me again please do it in the other thread. Write there your crap.

If you got a notice you were temporarily banned for 7 days, disregard that. We thought Marathon Man's complaint was for you posting in his thread. Your membership is active.

[hanon1492]

If anyone read my previous post and yours they can judge for themselves who is the mental unbalanced person.

Admit you were wrong, and stop telling BS about me and anyone who criticise you. All we are waiting is some technical reasoning to defend your proposals, but you only know how to insult.

If you insult me again please do it in the other thread. Write there your crap.

[marathonman]

Open thread

While this is an open thread i choose to not post here except to confront your BS.
my thread is closed because of people like you that constantly attack me for no reason other than pissed off that i took your lousy 15 minutes of fame away.
you have been riding off your translation of the patent since 2012 and have done NOTHING since to promote the Figuera device. even your translation was wrong with missing translations and sentences. you have NO research of your own except the NN fields and that is it. your attempt at constructing the primaries and secondaries ended it a COMPLETE DISASTER and NOTHING WORKED. all the information i have was given to you but you have NO ability to understand it.
YOU ARE WRONG HANON.
all you do is post different patents in an attempt to fool people that you have your own research, in which you have NONE. you have even been to my research photos and graphs to many times to count copying my research because you don't have the ability to figure it out on your own. YES HANON I KNOW YOU VISIT MY RESEARCH ALMOST DAILY. talk about a HYPOCRITE TO THE THIRD DEGREE.

YOU ARE THE FRAUD HANON not me. every thing i post has come true. SO WHAT pert G needed a little tweek, WHO CARES.
you are JEALOUS like no tomorrow and can't stand it that I have pushed this device to the next level NOT YOU.
i get email's and pm's all the time about people saying YOU ARE WRONG and DO NOTHING TO PROMOTE THE DEVICE. all you bring to the table is a mouth full of BS.

LEAVE ME AND MY RESEARCH ALONE AND GET A LIFE. my thread is for people that agree with my findings. maybe not 100 % but they still agree and we are working together to complete this device.
all this thread does is bad mouth me with NO RESEARCH AT ALL. WOW ! now that is so sad and says a lot about you and the other thread members. YOU ARE SICK IN THE HEAD AND NEED PROFESSIONAL HELP.

I DON"T CARE ANYTHING ABOUT YOU AND YOUR SILLY BS AND NEITHER DOES ANYONE ON MY THREAD OR MY FOLLOWERS.

so please stop EMBARRASSING YOUR SELF AND ENTERGETIC FORUM like you have been. try acting like an adult instead of a drama queen and get to work on this device.
DO NOT POST ON MY SITE IN RETALIATION. just get on with your life and quite being a COMPLETE COWARD if you can.

NOBODY WANTS YOU OR NEEDS YOUR BS especially on MY THREAD so please STOP THE BS TODAY, RIGHT NOW !

[hanon1492]

The same proof of principle done by Netica and Ufo was time ago shown in this video regulating two lightbulbs in the range 0-100%. But it went into deaf ears. Bistander and Seead also pointed to this kind of design.

https://vimeo.com/178144785

1- The video shows a variac . Variac have a open winding. MM was telling that a continuous close winding was mandatory, and he was....wrong.

2- As in any variac the brush movement was back and forth between both outlets. MM was describing a continuous whole rotation around the toroid. And he was again...wrong

3- The winding in the variac has a normal thickness. MM was telling thar the winding must be very very thick. Netica proved him to be wrong when he built his device with normal household wire.

4- I say that the toroid do not make any energy recycling function between the toroid and the electromagnets. Time will tell if they can disconnect the battery just by using a toroid or use just a small input to compensate heat losses (very small in the toroid). Time will tell and will prove that MM is ....

I see in MM a virtue , and that is his big commitment with this project, and this is really good in some points because he at least has bring into light the toroid as a great efficiency current regulator. But please do not accept other self imposed design restrictions, as saying that the toroid is mandatory or that it needs a wire able to power a whole building, which is also a guess coming from his own interpretation. This device should work with any method which would be able to move the two fields. The toroid is not the only way.

It is a pity that this forum is not really open. As no disident opinion is accepted in the other thread, nobody can read there some constructive critics as the one from Bistander and Seead, who finally were proved to be right. The other thread is a kind of "just those accepting ang replicating my views are allowed here". I do not know if in the future Netica and Ufo will be accepted there if they discover any other disagreement with the "Theory". I hope they stay there, they are the only ones with real hability to bring that thread onto the right track.

[Ufopolitics]

Ants Noise...

By the way...I could slightly hear some kind of very low , almost imperceptible low sound...like coming from a very tiny ant?

Anyone of you could hear it?

By the way, I had Turkey yesterday...but what about my steak supposedly to be done with some resistors flames???!!!

So far my Toroid Part G is sooo cold that only serves me to store veggies and salad...


Electronic Taste...





Ufopolitics

[Ufopolitics]

Hi Ufo,

Since I'm forbidden on the other thread I'll drag your post over here. Kinda silly but that's MM.



It appears that you show one of the primary coils wound backwards. Is that right? I like to see that you're taking an analytical approach. I have to go but will study this later.

Regards,

bi

Hello Bistander,

I just did it to keep wiring connections "Symmetrical" and so prettier...between G and Primaries.. ...nothing important...we all know it is the other way around. or N-N...that is why I painted Blue both arrows at N-S Max...

But now can you see what looking for Symmetry makes Us all do?...

Very observative like always Bistander!!...But you've missed that I had Battery terminals polarity symbols wrong...

I got a technical question for you about my switching PSU...but I will post it on the Open Thread later on...

I know either Citfta or You will have the right answer.


Regards


Ufopolitics

[bistander]

Part G analysis

Hi Ufo,

Since I'm forbidden on the other thread I'll drag your post over here. Kinda silly but that's MM.

Hello to All,

I have been trying to put all Functions of Part G together...along with Primaries.

And, like I wrote before...being studying pretty deep all Magnetic Circuits Calculations related to Toroids...as Hopkinson's Law and Ohm's Law...

Some diagrams below I believe will assist Us in understanding how to build our Wave Signal even better:

Below Diagram shows Primary N at Max Output:

[IMG][/IMG]

And so I have set a few Parameters to have in mind...:

Total Amp-Turns, which is equivalent to Total MMF disbursed at Max on both ends. This Number of Turns on our Toroid will dictate the Raise and Fall distances in our Scopes Signal...as it will Increase the Primaries Magnetic Field Strength, therefore their Spatial expansions and Contractions.

Notice on this IMG I have set the Positive Brush Arrow delivering Max at N Primary.

Please note Brush Rotation Direction on Top of Toroid

I have reflected on IMG Left side all Parameters following their respective Directions...

Electric Circuit: is showing Current and EMF direction following Red Circular Arrow Increasing Values within Toroid Core.

Magnetic Circuit: MMF is also following Red Arrow direction Increase as is Flux Density.

Based on either Hopkinson's or Ohm's Law we all know that MMF/EMF and Current/Flux are Directly Proportional...meaning as one increases...so the other one.

But not so with Resistance/Reluctance...which are Inversely Proportional according to the Law's Equations...

So we have the Opposite Increase reflected by Black Arrow within Toroid, moving away from Red Arrow (Opposite Directions)

Which concludes that as MMF/EMF/Flux/Current are moving with red arrow direction, the Resistance/Reluctance Increases Opposite based on Black Arrow Direction.

The Result is that we get Higher Potentials Values (MMF/EMF/Flux/Current) delivered at Terminal going to Primary N.

As We get the Highest Resistance/Reluctance at Terminal going to Primary S. Which means Minimal Currents...as the other Parameters Increasing at N.

Now the Opposite Image is shown below:

[IMG][/IMG]

Brush is delivering Max at S Primary...which means that ALL Output Parameters on previous Image REVERSE.

Note Red-Black Arrows within Toroid are now opposed than IMG 1...

While Brush Rotation is the same...

All Equations from both Laws are in agreement with my writings above...

Reluctance = L/uA

Where L is the Total Length of the Magnetic Circuit (Our Toroid Windings) and uA is the Magnetic Permeability (Conductivity) of Iron Core Sectional Area...which tells Us all that by Increasing L which round up to be also Number of Turns...will increase our Reluctance...but CAREFUL here!!...since they are Inversely Proportional to MMF/Flux...too much Resistance will lower our MMF/Flux Rendered Potentials.

And here is where I see the reason why to work with heavier gauge wire...which means that we could increase L (Length=A-T) without increasing Ohmic Resistance...plus allowing better path for higher currents flow.

Therefore, We keep a Balance of both Opposed Magnetic Parameters here (MMF/Reluctance) which we need to create Higher Raise as lower falls at Signals Peaks.

Anyways, this is my take on this...My two pennies worth...


Regards to All


Ufopolitics

It appears that you show one of the primary coils wound backwards. Is that right? I like to see that you're taking an analytical approach. I have to go but will study this later.

Regards,

bi

[seaad]

? ? ? ? ?

Is MM a reincarnated MuhaMmed ??

quote: God said to me, "Do not quit Donald" so i stood tall and i will reap his rewards.
as for the thanking, well, i can't lie, it is nice to be told "thank you" but in the long run i am just Gods messenger.

http://www.energeticforum.com/295357-post163.html