Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera

[hanon1492]

Rectangle N ?
Rectangle S ?



Figuera nevers used the words "north" or "south" in his 1908 patent. It is important to realize of this fact.

[hanon1492]

[darediamond]

After studying the Figuera and Buforn patents for over a year I have come to a few conclusions regarding this particular patent. It has some good points and bad points.

The magnetic flux inducing the current can be much stronger, more ampere turns, potentially higher output.

No expensive electrical steel or soft iron required.

There is no iron in the armature and the armature is not part of the magnetic circuit.

Lower induction losses in the armature compared to toothed barrel wound armatures.

No eddy current losses in the armature core.

Possibly little or no concern for 'back ampere turns' in the armature.

However, since the armature rotates there will be some power consumed to accomplish that. Also increased amp turns also means higher copper costs, but since x amount of amp turns will induce x amount of current I question whether that is a real improvement. In this design the air gaps in the magnetic circuit are much greater so the reluctance will be much higher and require more amp turns to begin with. Perhaps that is what necessitated the dual coils to begin with? Maintaining rigidity in the armature windings also looks like it could be an issue.

Whether the advantages of this design outweigh the disadvantages is questionable at this point, but I look forward to your results.

I have a feeling that Figuera wanted a patent to sell and he built a generator like this, but I believe his later patents and those submitted by Buforn were improvements on this idea.

Regards

You do not have to increase the amps turn. Just utilise serially connected Multifilar wire and you will get Enormous Amount of Flux. Same lent of wire divided into 20 or 200 strands twisted together and now connected to get her in series and use that to make your primaries.

[darediamond]

Hi Wonju,

I have been reading the PDF and can understand most of it.

The one item I would appreciate some clarification on is the fixed
cylinder "G" with the connections 1 to 16 that connect to the brushes.

The bridging contacts and the brush arrangement are what I am unable
to visualise.

Any help appreciated.

Regards, Penno

Forget about Part G, use AC from a Pure Sine Wave inverter. Use high frequency which requires your inverter center tapped transformer must me be made with Moulded core which is always high frequency.

[BroMikey]

You do not have to increase the amps turn. Just utilise serially connected Multifilar wire and you will get Enormous Amount of Flux. Same lent of wire divided into 20 or 200 strands twisted together and now connected to get her in series and use that to make your primaries.

I can stack 3 spools on one post to get up to 18 strands but I have
to pull the wire back much further down the hall way so as to keep
the length of each conductor the same.

Thane Heins also uses the coil winding formula you laid out here.
He calls his coils REGENX coils. Other put their names on this Tesla
innovation.

Have you seen my coil winder in action? This is one of few winders
posted on youtube tho I am sure more exist and some pay to send
out to coil winding companies.

Have you ever wound a coil like this?

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4BRj1vS0Sg[/VIDEO]

[darediamond]

WRONG ! Where do you see armature rotating ? The essence is that NO SINGLE IRON part is rotating ! That's what let us "don't kill the dipole" because N S N S N S electromagnets are in steady state position, never changed but forced mechanical action. That is precisely stated in the patent.....the 90% or more of mechanical energy is used to overcome magnetic attaction and repulsion due to lenz law and that point is eliminated as indirectly Figuera stated.
Surprisingly the later patent is nothing more then eliminating the last minor problem..... Got it ? there is really nothing complicated (except it require precise mechanical skills to replicate it)

"Precise Mechanical Skills To Replicate It." WORD!!!!!!!!!

[boguslaw]

Any experienced electronic guru here ? I have a few questions.
Do you have pure sinewave inverter schematic with variable frequency and voltage output ?
How can it be simulated with HV transistor amplifier ?
Can the shape of electronic signal be easy modified even if that shape is not a simple variation of sine or square or triangle but some special timing of some partial signals ?
Can transistor amplifier amplify a rectified sinewave signal ?

[BroMikey]

I can stack 3 spools on one post to get up to 18 strands ..................

Have you seen my coil winder in action? This is one of few winders
posted on youtube tho I am sure more exist and some pay to send
out to coil winding companies.

Have you ever wound a coil like this?

Any experienced electronic guru here ? I have a few questions.

"Precise Mechanical Skills To Replicate It." WORD!!!!!!!!!

We might be talking to a translating machine or some who can only
say the words they are use to that can be translated. It doesn't seem
like this is a real person because they are deaf. Or they can not hear.

So many live in fear of their peers and will not open up for evaluation.
DareDiamond is no different than 99 percent of those who are members
yet never exchange thoughts.

Like I said before, only a handful of men left who do not live in fear
who speak their minds. Ask a question, try to engage a conversation
and the people curl up in sheer revolt.

So sad. The world is so divided

[boguslaw]

BromiKey

What are you talking about ? If something I said is not clear that it's due to language barrier, because English is not my first language and I operate the limited amount of words.

[darediamond]

We might be talking to a translating machine or some who can only
say the words they are use to that can be translated. It doesn't seem
like this is a real person because they are deaf. Or they can not hear.

So many live in fear of their peers and will not open up for evaluation.
DareDiamond is no different than 99 percent of those who are members
yet never exchange thoughts.

Like I said before, only a handful of men left who do not live in fear
who speak their minds. Ask a question, try to engage a conversation
and the people curl up in sheer revolt.

So sad. The world is so divided

Well I earlier choose not to give you a reply because I see.you are not open to suggestive advice.
You are asking me if have build a generally common machine which I readily have a version of as if that is the prerequisite to offering you freely a working advice.

And finally, you justified my thought about you reasoning and acting childishly.
How RUDE you are!!!.

[BroMikey]

Well I earlier choose not to give you a reply because I see.you are not open to suggestive advice.
You are asking me if have build a generally common machine which I readily have a version of as if that is the prerequisite to offering you freely a working advice.

And finally, you justified my thought about you reasoning and acting childishly.
How RUDE you are!!!.

Yes I am open for a conversation/advice. I see you have a winding and
think your input so far is excellent. I like
to get the group exchange.

I am open to your machine. Great that you post these pictures
of your work. Excellent.

[hanon1492]

This is from a 2012 version of Patrick Kelly ebook, chapter 3, about Richard Willis generator and a simplified version done from a user called silverhealtheu.

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Richard Willis GeneratorSilverhealtheu

[hanon1492]

And if you need more facts please read this chapter 22 in P.Kelly ebook: (edited: currently PJK located that chapter in the 18th chapter of his ebook)

Overcoming the Lenz Law Effect , by Vladimir Utkin.

Vladimir Utkin and Lenz's Law

[Wistiti]

And if you need more facts please read this chapter 22 in P.Kelly ebook:

Overcoming the Lenz Law Effect , by Vladimir Utkin.

Vladimir Utkin and Lenz's Law

[Cadman]

Originally posted by matu at OU regarding the Figuera magnetic circuit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Crq9j-f6Z7g

Regards
CM