Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera

[kEhYo77]

I think the picture in the patent looks like a view from the top. And then all coils are wound in the same plane, and core legs (hidden, obscured) going in the Z axis so looks like a 3 phase xformer config to me as to core geometry.

[hanon1492]

Hi,

I have found another device based on MAGNETIC REPULSION
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnWuPzAKigs

Regards

[hanon1492]

Hi all,

I have uploaded a video with the foundation of the Figuera generator based on two poles in repulsion mode. It is a very good video. I recommend you to look for 10 minutes to watch it. I explain why Figuera did not define clearly the pole orientation, and how he emulated a common generator in a motionless device.

The whole interpretation of a device to create a "virtual motion" by using the repulsion between 2 electromagnets and the movement back and forth of their fields:

https://vimeo.com/155371840


Regards

[Beamgate]

@Hanon

Indeed, a sensible hypothesis! How close to a proof are you?

I shelved my attempt with the 'Figuera' a few months ago after I discovered another Lenzless alternative.

[hanon1492]

The whole interpretation of a device to create a "virtual motion" by using the repulsion between 2 electromagnets and the movement back and forth of their fields:

https://vimeo.com/155371840

Hi all,

I attach here the slides of the video into a PDF file.

Video Slices in PDF

Also I have uploaded the video with the audio in spanish: https://vimeo.com/155371841

Just a funny coincidence: Have you notice that Figuera generator is like the Ying Yang?

Two opposite forces in movement but in balance: when one is at maximun the other is at minimun

Keep the balance !!



Animated Gif with the generator in repulsion mode:

[hanon1492]

The VTA from Floyd Sweet seems to have used also two electromagnets in repulsion (North- North) to modulate the magnetic field and create a virtual motion of the field lines. Please check this link. It has some interesting sketches:

Floyd "Sparky" Sweet - VTA Replication Project - Update 18-01-10

I copy here a couple of sentences from that page:

[shylo]

poles

Hi All, When 2 of the same poles approach each other, the waves get distorted..they push away from each other in various direction, the opposite poles concentrate the lines down to nothing, a central plane.
Rotating the fields of the magnets , with coils pulsing between attraction and deflection....should do it.
artv

[hanon1492]

Many many months ago a user (as soon as nov-2012) posted an interpretation of the motionless 1902 patent, patent 30378, also using poles in repulsion mode: N-N or S-S. In that time, as we were just looking for N-S poles, I missed that post because I could not understanding why he used two induced coils and why he confronted two North poles.

Now, while re-reading the forum, I found this post and now I can see his idea.

Basically this user is proposing to use also like poles facing each other (in repulsion) in the motionless 1902 patent. As the magnetic field crash in the central zone between electromagnets he suggests to place two induced coils. One at each side in order to capture all the magnetic lines which go to one and to the other side.

If you just use one induced coil the resulting induction will be null because one part of the coil is induced in the opposed direction to the other part. This is his explanation:

I am alternately powering the electromagnets because when the electromagnets are setup to be opposing to each other as one electromagnet starts to power down the lines of force shift toward it causing them to be pushed through the coil. When it is set up this way the electromagnets only have to vary in strength in relation to to each other to cause induction in the secondary coil. In the diagrams I have provided earlier in this thread I have shown how anyone can prove all this out. Also when you do it this way the wires in the top of the induced coil have an opposite sign as the wires in the bottom of the coil. This is why it is necessary to split the coil in the middle, and hook the wires like I did. When the induced coil is used in this way it's flux can not effect the flux of the primary electromagnets.

I just post here this interpretation. Until now I was thinking that the this patent was different to the 1908 patent. Now I am not sure if they are equivalent or not.

One image is from that user. For clarity I have supperimposed his coil winding proposal into the patent diagram in order to grasp his idea.

I had always wondered why Figuera left so much room for the electromagnet winding at both side of the central core. Note that he left almost the same room for the wires as the diameter of the soft iron core.

Just for your study. Do you think it could work fine? Folowing this interpretation I think that a pancacke coil with an internal hollow as big as the soft iron core will also fit this requirement.

Regards





Open links to download those images: Image1 Image2

[john_g]

Hi

Here's a short video by me with some ideas about the Figuera patent. I think that the flux was directed through either an air gap or solid block, and the pickup wires were contained within then. The main flux could be either from an electro-magnet or a permanent magnet, and that flux is shifted by a secondary electro-magnet which may form part of a tank circuit. Anyway, that's my thoughts for what they are worth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoZCGjQI3Dw&feature=youtu.be

Rds

John

[hanon1492]

From Figuera patent #30378 (Motionless generator) (1902) (textual quote):

" In Gramme ring and in current dynamos, current is produce
by induction produced on the wire of the induced circuits while
its coils cut the lines of force "

........

" The inventors believe that is exactly the same that the induced
circuit coils cut the lines of force, than that these lines of force cross the induced wire. "

[boguslaw]

From Figuera patent #30378

Definately he was searching for moving lines of force, however the patent you mentioned seems to be evolved dynamo engine based on shape of the apparatus presented on schematic from patent.

[hanon1492]

Bucking Coil forum and here an interesting video


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Link to Image 1 and Image 2
Regards

[SkyWatcher]

Hi hanon, thanks for sharing.
In the second drawing, if the primary coils are wound in same direction, then those primaries are bucking each other.
Normally, that would negate the primary inducer field, though with those core gaps, not sure how that would affect it.
I'll have to study this clem/figuera setup more.
peace love light

Edit: i see, he was creating virtual motion, flux cutting.
I watched your video hanon, i wonder if a flip flop circuit could work to create the alternating same polarity in each outside coil.
I will remove the bifilar on my bucking setup and wind single wire and try it.

[hanon1492]

Following the bucking coil concept.

Two inducers and two output bucking coils. Inducers have like poles facing each other , therefore the system is simetric and each induced coil is trasversed for each inducer field. Both effect add up to contribute to the final voltage output.

[prochiro]

scalarbeamer

Hello All

We have seen that the bucking coils can react with produced waves and a disc of magnets. They also react to a small running motor close by and really react to the scalarbeamer. For those that want to see something really strange see the following for magnet details and check out what a scalarbeamer does to this system, POWER.

SCALARBEAMER

Prochiro