Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera

[hanon1492]

Details from the patents

Distance between coils:

Patent from 1902: " Several electromagnets are arranged opposing each other, and their opposite pole faces separated by a small distance."

Patent from 1908:" ..there is no need to make them round, nor leave any space between one and the other."

Placement of coils:

Patent from 1902: "In the empty space remaining between the pole faces of the electromagnets of these two series, the induced wire passes"

Patent from 1908: "characterized by two series of electromagnets that form the inductor circuit, between whose poles run the properly

[boguslaw]

I have a feeling that y series of electromagnets are connected in parallel for higher current, while generating coils are connected in series which is almost sure because of single wire on schematic passed from one coil to the other.
I wonder if there is any chronicle of Canary Island where we could find a photograph of Clemente Figurea and his "generador" ? In one spanish article there was a photograph of Figuera, so expectation of more is resonable, right ?

[rosehillworks]

Distance between coils:

Patent from 1902: " Several electromagnets are arranged opposing each other, and their opposite pole faces separated by a small distance."

Patent from 1908:" ..there is no need to make them round, nor leave any space between one and the other."

Placement of coils:

Patent from 1902: "In the empty space remaining between the pole faces of the electromagnets of these two series, the induced wire passes"

Patent from 1908: "characterized by two series of electromagnets that form the inductor circuit, between whose poles run the properly

Run some test with magnets and wire and this is what you will find

Flux x1.2.jpg

You are wright THIS IS NOT A TRANSFORMER!!!!! IT IS A GENERATOR!!
It can only be understood when you look at it as a generator.

[grizli]

Can anyone draw actual coil that is described in patent, do we have 100% data needed to replicate coil itself.
Yes we can use many driving methods, coil itself could be mystery?

Only original patent image I have seen here is square shaped coils , not drawin in 3D, hmm

[wonju]

Update 2

I have finished building the electromagnets. The iron cores are separated with a paper thin cardboard for a minimum separation distance between the cores. The results are very encouraging. I was able to get induce voltages of 1:1 and 1:2 when using an AC voltage source. Of course, if primary cross talking occurs, the gap will have to be larger.

Notice that I built the coils with intermediate taps. The data is

Primary coils:
Wire gauge: #16 AWG
Taps: 215, 415, and 515 turns

Secondary coil:
Wire gauge: #12 AWG
Taps: 115 and 219 turns

See photo here
Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE


Next, I will be working on the circuit use to drive the primary coils.

Wonju

[kEhYo77]

@Wonju.

Looks pretty solid, nice work!
Try my simple arduino/2 mosfet/2 shottky, PWM driver it won't hurt, I promise

[rosehillworks]

Can anyone draw actual coil that is described in patent, do we have 100% data needed to replicate coil itself.
Yes we can use many driving methods, coil itself could be mystery?

Only original patent image I have seen here is square shaped coils , not drawin in 3D, hmm

This is in reference to the 1902 patent. This is just the way I see it.
I hope this helps.

Genenrator 1.jpg

[grizli]

This is in reference to the 1902 patent. This is just the way I see it.
I hope this helps.

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This is something completely diffeent from for example Kelly pdf .

[hanon1492]

This is something completely diffeent from for example Kelly pdf .

[Duncan]

A very different ... twist

Garrettm4,

I visited the following page

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/11855-eric-dollard-8.html

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0ByWW...FpaXluREE/edit



.

[wonju]

Revision 5

I Have Made A Revision To The Document. I Revised The Patent Figure In Accordance With The Comments Made In This Forum. I Also Revised Some Of The Write Up And Figures To Indicate That The Flux And The Voltage Should Be 90 Degrees Out Of Phase. The Fundamental Concept Explained In The Document Is Still The Same.

It still is a work in progress.

Thanks!
Wonju

[kEhYo77]

@Wonju

I think that you are wrong in your assumptions of '90 degree' phase shift between Vps,Ips of North/South primaries! (As stated earlier in my posts).

In your 'revised' document on Fig.21, at the 'M' mark, magnetic fields of both primaries are equal as they should be but their magnitudes at this point should be exactly HALF of their maximum magnitudes but they are not! They are both more like 2/3 of their Bmax!

Respectfully

kEhYo

[hanon1492]

This is in reference to the 1902 patent. This is just the way I see it.
I hope this helps.

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[wonju]

@Wonju

I think that you are wrong in your assumptions of '90 degree' phase shift between Vps,Ips of North/South primaries! (As stated earlier in my posts).

In your 'revised' document on Fig.21, at the 'M' mark, magnetic fields of both primaries are equal as they should be but their magnitudes at this point should be exactly HALF of their maximum magnitudes but they are not! They are both more like 2/3 of their Bmax!

Respectfully

kEhYo

I respect your opinion, but I still think the primary voltages are shifted 90 degrees. As I said before, just trace the voltage of the variable resistor device shown in figure 15. You will see that the voltage waveforms shown in figure 21 are correct. If instead of a linear resistor you use the Figuera's mechanical commutator with lump resistors, you still should get step half sinusoidal voltages shifted 90 degrees. The 90 degree shift is determined by observing that when one primary voltage is maximum, the other is zero or close to zero, which is the definition for a sine-cosine relationship.

Thanks,
Wonju

[kEhYo77]

@ Wonju

Than answer me this:

Why in the middle crossing point M, where the commutator is half way on the resistor ladder your current trace does not equal HALF of the maximum current???

It is so obvious! Are You a disinfo agent or what?

kEhYo