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    Hi All,

    You might be interested in looking at this posted on the You Tube

    SATELLITE GENERATOR SETUP- MAGNETIC POWER - YouTube
    Last edited by magnetman12003; 10-02-2012, 03:52 AM. Reason: Title not on target

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    Tom Ferko's Satellite Generator

    I've created a feature page on this at OS:Tom Ferko's Satellite Generator - PESWiki

    He posted another, very interesting video today: HONKING ON OUT--FANTASTIC SPEED!.MPG - YouTube

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    • #3
      This guy does something similar with no batteries!

      EQUILIBRIUS GRID by JON DEPEW / CORAL CASTLE CODE / Discovery 2004 - YouTube

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      • #4
        COP 2.555 here

        dec 8 power in .9 watts 2.30 watts out = 2.5555 cop

        Here it is-- The WORKING 8 inch magnet wheel which can be used for a genereator or motor.
        MOTOR MADNESS FOR 2013 - YouTube

        Norman

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        • #5
          Hi norman6538, Can you show a scope shot of the voltage and current across the load ?

          Is the load using Smoothed DC power ? Before anyone can really believe
          anything we would need to see the measurements, including a scope shot of
          the voltage at least across the load. Anything except smoothed DC should
          give an elevated power calculation for output.

          What is the rating of the bulbs ? To have 170 volts DC across four bulbs and
          using 10 mA of current the load resistance would need to be 17000 Ohms I think.
          That would be a resistance of 4200 Ohms per lamp, to me something is not adding up.

          To hazard a guess I would say a setup like that should operate at between
          60 and 90 % efficiency.


          Cheers
          Last edited by Farmhand; 12-20-2012, 10:33 AM.

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          • #6
            The magnets are not 'magnetising' the core in a linear fashion relating to their geometrical alignment, as is the case with small gap stator-rotor traditional gensets.

            Each magnet sets up an Fe electron spin wave avalanche through the core. This field wave acts suddenly wrt the winding, then, once the core has become fully magnetised (charged like a capacitor) and because of the gap, it does not drag or latch the passing magnet - until the next magnet approaches closely enough to again induce sudden reversal - ad infinitum. The magnet-core gap would need to be optimised whilst the device is running, possible circa 5mm.

            The device videoed operates at high impedance, but I think it possible that a capacitor in series with the output winding inductance might be capable of tuning an optimum induction speed cycle for driving a low impedance load. Also it is the use of IRON which is most important here.

            It is possible that the effect could be increased by using rectangular magnets and a rectangular core with suddenly presenting and passing long edges. Leedskalnin?

            Cheers ....... Graham.
            Last edited by GSM; 12-20-2012, 02:27 PM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by sterlingda View Post
              I've created a feature page on this at OS:Tom Ferko's Satellite Generator - PESWiki

              He posted another, very interesting video today: HONKING ON OUT--FANTASTIC SPEED!.MPG - YouTube
              How this works is above my pay grade but I wonder if that plastic bowl doesn't play a part in this

              Too bad he didn't use a pyramid shaped plastic shape to see if this helped. Pyramids seem pretty important to the masons

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              • #8
                No one else going to question the load power anomaly ?

                I still say that he cannot be measuring smoothed DC at the bulbs because if he was the
                170 volts would cause a lot more current than 10 Ma and the load power would
                be much more unless the load represented a resistance of 17000 Ohms.

                The way I see it is that IF the load resistance was say 170 ohms and the load voltage
                was 170 volts DC it should cause 1 amp of current, to get to 10 mA of current
                the 1 amp must be multiplied by 0.01 or divided by 100 or be 1 % duty.

                What kind of bulbs are they ?
                Can we see a full circuit diagram with the measurement points on it ?
                And can we see a scope shot of the output at the measurement point ?

                If not I could only assume three things.

                1. My calculation is incorrect and somehow 170 volts DC across 4 lamps can
                cause only 10 mA of current. ( If so ignore the next two )

                2. The voltage is not Smoothed DC and the load power is actually much less.
                (In which case the claimant would be either mistaken, misleading or outright
                lying.)

                3. The device is some how not what it is claimed to be and has batteries or
                other such storage devices concealed in side. ( In which case the claimant is
                a faker or a fraudster which automatically makes him a liar as well).

                How he does it is irrelevant if he is claiming a C.O.P. of 2.555, What matters
                most, first is to get some measurements so the calculations and measurement
                protocol/procedure is seen to be correct and the claim is sound.

                Cheers

                P.S. 174 volts at 0.01 A is 1.74 Watts anyway not 2.3 Watts.

                ..
                Last edited by Farmhand; 12-20-2012, 07:49 PM.

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                • #9
                  " 3.20 watts total INPUT: The magnet wheel uses
                  .56 watts. The bulbs use 1.74 watts. The wall supply uses .9 watts."

                  Bulbs can be LEDs with a 4k7 or so resistor in series, four bulbs in series: 4x4700 ohm=18k8 ohm total, so at 174V current is around 10 milliamps.

                  I saw schematic in the link supplied, Led bulbs are conected after a full diode bridge and one 466uF cap so this means that bulbs are receiving a DC voltage of around 174V consuming 1.74W.

                  This is what I can see and I can be wrong.

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                  • #10
                    I don't understand how he is working it out.

                    How does he get the 3.2 watts ?

                    Isn't the light group the load (output), the wheel does nothing but a timing device.

                    What is needed I think is the total input power supplied.

                    The total output power, measured as accurately as the input is measured.
                    Meaning it should be Smoothed DC considering the energy released from the
                    coil would be in sharp pulses.

                    Measuring the amplitude of a sharp pulse then multiplying that by the current
                    spike measured will not give an accurate power calculation.

                    The output at the measurement point must be smoothed DC. And the current
                    should be measured accurately then because of the constant nature of the
                    smoothed DC voltage.

                    Spinning the wheel with half a Watt would not be too difficult, and I don't see
                    the significance of that anyway.

                    I didn't see the measurements taken anyway.

                    I'm responding to the video in this post.


                    Cheers
                    Last edited by Farmhand; 12-20-2012, 09:42 PM.

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