Tesla Stinging Impulse Rays

[Nick_Z]

This all brings me to this point... so please forgive me if I bore some of you. I'll make this short.

In order to understand the idea of an Aether, we can't simply explain it by what we can see, or weigh, or can meassure with our instruments, as current science is still trying to do, or not do.
As an "Aether Meter" (dark matter meter) has not yet been invented.
And there is no physical "Matter" in the Aether to look for. Non physical "matter", does not exist. Things such as light are not "physical", in fact. although you may have heard or read differently.

The way I understand it is: that there are two main things, the seen univers, as well as the unseen one. As in multidimensional space and time.
There exists the material or physical worlds, but, there also exists the unseen Etherical worlds. The cause of the existence of the material worlds is due to the existence of these unseen Etherical worlds and realms, and not the other way around. The Aether creates the physical, in other words, from which it is made. I know that this is not an easy concept to grasp...
The cause of causes is to be found in the Aether, but, as nothing can create itself, and as current science give no credence to a "Creator" so therefore, it is missing out and blind on the most important point. Until we realize that we are not self made men, and that there is an underlying cause for all of life and existence, nothing our current science has to offer will really make much sense, as it is not a whole unified theory, but a partial one at best. Ignoring for the most part the true reason that things function as they do, and the why and how it is all happening.

I am not a religious man, so please don't take me wrong.
I do believe in a true and real cause of things, not in the current fragmented version.
As mentioned previously, Tesla was/is right... he did not make up those ideas and concepts that we still don't quite comprehend, entirely on paper, only. He is still one of our best examples of scientific truth.

NickZ

[antigraviticsystems1]

First I want to apologize to you because it is hard to understand, use google translator but it's still difficult for me to understand in your language, however I am happy to be surrounded by great people struggling to discover something new

[TeslaSecrets]

Ether or No Ether, that is the question.

If we really want to answer this question, we need a solid foundation upon which to build an understanding. I am going to do this, by coming at the problem backwards. Rather than leading up to the solution through a bunch of examples, I will give just give the solution and then show how it matches both the Ether and No Ether models.

The solution is the Unified Field Theory. So how can I use a theory which supposedly doesn't exist, easy. Its all in the name Einstein chose. Unified Field.
Realize what a Unified field actually means, in English. Uni = "One". Unify = "to combined into One". Unified = "Combined into One". Einstein chose this word for a reason.

Einstein spoke of Space/Time. 3-Dimensions of Space and One of Time. Space has some volume, Time is changes in Space. We think of matter as being something separate from Space/Time, like the idea of a planet moving through Space and Time. However, this is incorrect. Matter is within and composed of Space/Time, not something unique in its own right. Anything in our Universe is made of Space/Time. You have to see, the fundamental and key notion of a Unified Field theory, is everything is made out of the same stuff, all is one thing. Mass is made of Space/Time and the Dimensions of Space/Time can be reduced to One Field or One dimension.

I am not disagreeing with you with these next statements GSM, just pointing some things out. We must be careful saying EM energy always requires mass and there are no waves or fields, because the evidence says otherwise. EM energy, specifically the forces between two charged masses, appears at some distance from the masses involved. Charge appears to be a physical state of Space. Space has physical states or properties. The masses do not touch physically, and yet there is some force or effect in the Space surrounding the mass, which acts just like a physical contact to another charge.

It is wrong to associate Void with Space, they are not the same thing. Void has no volume, Space has volume. Nor can matter exist independently of Space.

Indeed, what we consider as a physical solid, like an atom is something like 99.9% Space, is it not? What we think of as contact or collision between two solid physical bodies, on an atomic level occurs long before any physical contact between atoms ( or the protons, electrons ) can ever occur. The sphere of influence of an physical solid, extends far beyond the physical surface we would ascribe to that solid. The scientist even found, an electron will produce interference patterns, a wave effect. So this boundary between mass and space, is not so "solid" as many would like to believe. You could write volumes on the subject of "Touch" alone. But I digress.

Now to put this together for you. Realize that modern physics, doesn't understand the Unified Field Theory, they currently have a bunch of separate fields. effects and forces, electric, magnetic, mass, inertia and gravity and so on. Realize that modern physics does not need an Ether nor understand the Ether,simply because they have taken the Ether and divided and separated it into its component parts. The one, was divided and separated first into Space and Time and then even further divided and separated into 4 dimensions or components, each with unique physical states of properties.

Realize the Ether proponents are talking about the Unified Field, the One, whereas the physicists are talking about many separated and divided components of the one field. Upon Unification of all fields, the physicists will realize this One field, matches all these concept of an Dynamic Ether.

So yeah I can show how the Unified Field theory resolves this Ether or No Ether issue, but those of scientific bent will surely point out, I give no real explanation as to How the separate fields are combined into a Unified Field. That my friends is a subject for another post. you must see though how the details of the unified field theory are not really required to make this connection. Thus in a sense the concept of a Unified Field is more important than the actual details.

A full and complete Unified Field theory, would involve a nearly impossible amount of mathematics. To be complete, it would have to demonstrate applicability to all fields and concepts in science, even biology. Rewriting all of physics would be, to say the least, a tremendous undertaking. Thus the details were never completed, only the general concept was published. This was done as a small appendix to Einstein's relativity, a few pages at most, showing the connection between gravity, electric and magnetic fields. This appendix was subsequently removed from future reprints of Relativity theory. Not a rumor, as references and papers discussing the Unified Field theory exist, some from Einstein himself.

So just to repeat this in some different words, The Ether is Space/Time or One Field or a Unified Field. Modern physics is looking at the pieces or structure of the Ether, without seeing the Whole, the gestalt. The physicists will find their three forces electric, magnetic and gravity/mechanical/related to mass are 3 components of a single entity, obeying a specific interrelationship amongst each other. This relationship is 3-dimensional, changing in time. Each force or field is perpendicular to each of the other two fields. It is the combined nature of each of these fields, which defines the nature of the Ether, not any one or 2 but all 3. Space has physical states which correspond to the physical forces. The interactions of these 3 physical states or forces lead to the forms, interactions and patterns we think of as solid reality.

I hope I haven't got too technical or too simple here.

[TeslaSecrets]

Let me apologize for being a bit childish. Just let me say I get frustrated trying to explain this sometimes, the ideas can hurt my head too. Let me say too, I would be lying if I said I understood everything about Tesla's work, but I can go further in my explanation and connect some more dots for you, as it were. I do think it is important for me to try and do so, even if only one person gets it.

First @antigraviticsystems1

Believe it or not, I have been trying to follow your work. I have seen your comments on other forums and watched people dismiss your ideas, primarily because they were not in english. I guess that is too bad for them, because your understanding is very correct and your drawings and explanations are great. So if anyone here has assumed antigraviticsystems1 does not know what he is talking about, solely based upon his first language and crude drawings, you better think again. Seeing you on here antigraviticsystems1 was one of the reasons I decided to keep posting, Glad to have you in this discussion.

You point out a very important detail about Tesla's stinging rays I remembered reading as soon as you mentioned it; the Stinging Rays were perpendicular to the electric arc. An extremely important key to the whole mystery and in fact, provides the solution to GSM's comments, although the connection is far from obvious.

Now @ GSM

I am not sure how you do the repost thing on a forum to be honest.
GSM you have definitely gone and brought out the BFG now. Good job.

I had to go back to some books, to refresh my memory on the physics you bring up, specifically "Einstein's Theory of Relativity" by Max Born. There is an entire section within chapter 4 "Fundamental Laws of Optics" called "The Ether". What GSM has brought up here is the age old debate, Ether or No Ether. GSM has pointed out that according to modern physics, we do not need an ether, and experiment has never successfully detected this ether. GSM speaks the physicists truth here. Against this I can make no argument. Some physicist could quickly overwhelm me with the scientific data, formula and mathematics which proves the facts and reasoning behind this conclusion. If you would like to understand the logical process which led the scientist to conclude there is no Ether, than I would strongly suggest plugging your way through the chapter mention above.

However, we know Tesla and many others, do not agree with the modern physicists. For most the modern physics, is a massive, ugly, monstrousity of complexity and confusion. These people see that the concept of an Ether leads to a great simplification and union of many currently separate concepts and principles in Physics. The concept of an Ether gives our minds something simple, we can actually see or visualize, to comprehend what is occurring. In contrast to the abstract concepts within relativity and physics in general. This is why the Ether idea still hangs around as it were, because it makes sense to people and for me the end goal has always been simplification, generalization and unification.

So what if I told you, their both right, and took some time to point out how they can both be right without contradicting each other either. Yes, I am going to try to make everyone happy. I heard a good saying once;
"Your science has divided and separated that which is neither divided nor separate."
This is a good saying and the key to resolving many of physics most fundamental questions.

So my next post will try to explain how the modern physics dispenses with the need for an Ether and why we can still use the concept of an Ether to visualize the workings of the Universe. Realize though your asking me to lay down the framework for the UFT, which is a pretty big mouthful, so there is going to be some failure to communicate. I will do my best.

[Nick_Z]

Thanks for the reply guys.
Somehow it does make sense. Especially when watching videos of how the "Kacher" system works, which is similar to Exciter devices, when using a spark gap.
The problem with using a spark gap is the noise that is emitted from it, which is not what I would want to have in my house. As they are noisy as are the whine from some transformers and E-cores that are used for Joule Thief/Joule Ringer set ups. Open ended air core Tesla Type single layer wound coils are very silent.
I would still like to see how the magnetic quenching of the spark can be incorporated to produce a much higher output. Some spark gap devices are silent. Those types would be more to my liking, but for experimental purposes, anything that works is worth trying.

[GSM]

It would appear from viewing the video, that the magnets are able to stop the flow of voltage across the spark gap. So, that method proves that it does work. But, is there really an advantage that can be seen by an increase of the output energy levels. How does blowing the spark out in that way help?

I am at a stand still on my Exciter circuits, due to not being able to improve the amount of light intensity that can be obtained from them. This is due to not being able to use higher voltages, without burning up the transistors. This limits the possibility of seeing higher output levels, especially when using CFL bulbs for lighting. The use of transistors as the on/off switch is the bottleneck, and at this point I don't know how to proceed. The use of higher power output transistors has not worked well for me on the Exciter type circuits.
Any ideas are welcome.

Hi Nick,

Maybe use the transistor exciter to trigger/ ionise the earthy side of a gap in the same way as when triggering a flash tube ?

Also just came across this relevent link -

Light Speed

ADVICE OF NIKOLA TESLA ENERGY TO PRODUCE OR ELECTRO-FLOW HEATING ADVANCE ETHERICOS perpendicular to the electron:

* The event "electro-radiant" manifests perpendicularly to the advancement of the electrons.
* The event "electro-radiant" disappears when electrons start to run.
* The magnetic spark gap can say dissociated electrons and electro-heating, I have stated this is the result of the translation of documents I have in my power to be, if proven empirically, are currently only hypothesis.

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I will explain how I think the event occurs electro-radiant after everything I've read about:
The electro-radiant event first discovered by N.Tesla at the opening of a hydroelectric DC manifests perpendicular to the advance of the electrons in a conductor line, this happens when trying to connect to a very fast and forceful a very high electrical pressure (30-50kV cc) to a distribution line using 2 or 4 conductors coming together at high speed to avoid scrimmages as in the case of a high voltage disconnector spring load, line distribution at its ends has hundreds of miles for inductive voltage substations and reducing intensity-boosting to fit the lighting of the era such as high-voltage motors whose axes are mechanically to dynamos generating high current low voltage ( we're talking about the late nineteenth century when it had not yet become fashionable AC and could not boot typical substation transformers today) these powerful inductive loads at the end of the line at time "0" when the circuit is closed ipso facto, represent an infinite impedance, ie a wall insurmountable or "choking" by the carriers of energy (electrons) since the coils delayed 90 electric current, which means that if you connect a coil to a stack as a function of inductance of the coil and of the potential difference of the battery the coil takes more or less time to create the magnetic field and gradually reduce its inductive impedance "XL" to become simply a pure resistance according to the meters of yarn winding, is then at time "0" when very briefly radiant energy (perhaps etheric without mass flow) disengages from what is commonly called electric current and projecting perpendicularly to the transmission line Electric, based on that property Edwin Gray built his famous pipe capable of channeling radiant energy to crank an engine filled with frost at work, on the contrary to what happens with conventional current that generates heat (lost)

In my life I have noticed something similar to that "choking" when years ago I used to repair motorcycles to my friends, when I had to change the oil, sometimes for no other hand have made him one thicker and I surprised a phenomenon curious, to enter the oil in the oil tank used a long metal tube with a curved and was surprised when he tried to push the rush hit and with all the strength of my thumb the piston that compresses and pushes the oil through the tube I was stunned to see that if you operated that way the oil is not coming out, I tried many times and finally understood why, if I started to print a pressure went smoothly and gradually increasing it to the maximum pressure of my finger force thumb getting oil to run well, but if suddenly applied all my strength not run oil ..... Friend of mine Well, the same goes for electro-radiant energy, if we try to get in a blow ipsofcto a very high electrical pressure (The higher the better) electrons as oil suffocate in the crystal lattice of the driver and not advance, it is precisely in this intante when momentarily disengaged electro-radiant energy of the system, the effect disappears when the current starts to flow, that is why we must "close-open-close-open-close-open" the most effective and fast way to get the "electric pressure waves" hypothetically Tesla came to manufacture, has all the logic .... If this event is not known is because they require very strict conditions to produce it.

Hi Antigravitysystems.

So relevent. And Tesla knew this 100 years ago !?
Conventional electronics and Hertzian technologies always align the electrons transferring charge/ energy.
Ditto causing electron charge flow within inductors for magnetic induction - takes a finite time.

Capacitor spark discharge can change electron energy faster than matter related electron spin orbits can become current flow/magnetic field influenced, thus impulsive electron orbit induced radiation may be longitudinally generated without light speed magnetic transverse alignment limitation.

Cheers .......... Graham.

[antigraviticsystems1]

[antigraviticsystems1]

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[Nick_Z]

It would appear from viewing the video, that the magnets are able to stop the flow of voltage across the spark gap. So, that method proves that it does work. But, is there really an advantage that can be seen by an increase of the output energy levels. How does blowing the spark out in that way help?

I am at a stand still on my Exciter circuits, due to not being able to improve the amount of light intensity that can be obtained from them. This is due to not being able to use higher voltages, without burning up the transistors. This limits the possibility of seeing higher output levels, especially when using CFL bulbs for lighting. The use of transistors as the on/off switch is the bottleneck, and at this point I don't know how to proceed. The use of higher power output transistors has not worked well for me on the Exciter type circuits.
Any ideas are welcome.

[antigraviticsystems1]

Note that it is splitting "Positive"

[antigraviticsystems1]

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in this sketch drawing the hypothetical fault propagation perpendicular to the radiant energy along the upper conductor

[Nick_Z]

Thank you for posting that video, (gracias, por el video). Very interesting...
Some people say that the spark gap is not needed to produce an effect. What do you think?

[antigraviticsystems1]

I have been studying different methods of breaking arcs of late

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[john_g]

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Regards

John

[Nick_Z]

The effect of feeling the sting of HF is what it is. Just relaying what I felt.

You can believe that there is a movement of light, as in the so called "speed of light". I don't. There is NO movement of anything in the polarization of light, such as in a lightning bolt to ground. If you think that there is, please state what is "moving" or "traveling"? The fact that this polarization effect has a known rate that can be seen and calculated, does not make the cart pull the horse.
You are mentioning that there is NO Aether. ... Well, again that is your opinion, along with current science.
Do you also believe in the theory about the Big Bang? Everything came from nothing, in one instant??? Current science is not very accurate concerning many things.

Have you heard or read about the Vortex Theory??? Aether does exist... just because you can't see it, feel it, and can't meassure it, does not mean it is not there. As It is the source of everything, physical matter and well as the non physical. Tesla was not wrong...

I am not trying to argue with conventional theory. Just mentioning that there is much more to it...
Time will tell... just as with the Earth not being flat.