Tesla Stinging Impulse Rays

[SilverToGold]

Since this topic of "channelling" has come up, I'd like to inform anyone looking into doing this or trusting fully the information gained from it - to stay away from these things.

The supernatural world really is pretty simple, there is one God that created all things and and his angels --- on the other end there is Satan and his fallen angels.

When people die, they are in a sleep state. Only when the second coming of Christ happens will they be raised.

So any "aliens" channelling from the Puppy Dog Nebula, Tesla's ghost from beyond or your sweet old grandma's "spirit" - they are ALL fallen angels fooling you into believing in the "immortality" of the soul - so as to lead you to mistrust the NKJ Bible.

For anyone wanting to know more, I suggest listening to a man called Roger Morneau and his experience with a top satanic group and what he learned of these things.

Roger Morneau A Trip Into The Supernatural (full testimony) - YouTube

Or you could go to the one true source of truth, the NKJ Bible. It explains all this and more.

Tesla himself even got ideas from the Bible.

I assume if Vassilatos truly went "insane" it was probably more a case of demonic possession or harassment. That's what happens when you invite devils in.

[OrionLightShip]

Thank you for the references Eric. I will try and obtain them if at all possible.
We live in a trickster inhabited universe. I have learned through experience that even gifted people can be fooled by them.

I never trust a single channeled word regardless of source even those who I know well and have nothing but the best intentions. A channel is only an open door for any THING to use or misuse.

Thanks again for the information; I was hoping that as our resident Tesla expert, you would share your knowledge of this issue.

Orion

[t-rex]

Electric Shock Waves

I have read in Tesla's own words his description of this effect, it came about by sudden electrostatic discharges, short circuit, not open circuit. He thought of it as "minute particles thrown off with an inconceivable velocity." It later on became his "radiant matter". While I know that he says this I cannot recall where it was said, but I do have a good memory for faces and read most of all he wrote, pre-Bearden.

Vassilatos seems to have a diametric view and is hence incorrect. His description of the effects described by Tesla are in close agreement for the most part. My reference to the work of Nikola Tesla back in RCA days was,

1) Notes Lectures and Patents, NoLit Publishers, Bograd

2) Roentgen Rays and the Phenomena of the Cathode and Anode, E.P. Thompson (most important!)

3) My own personal experiments at RCA

In Vassilatos book his portrayals are derived by channeling as far as I can tell. Channeling is a risky endeavor and led to Van Tassel's downfall at the Integratron. In Vassilatos, other writings such as "Lost Science" he is more direct and accurate. He finally went off the "deep end" in his "Vril Compendium", but here he photocopied the important data lost by todays libraries. Note that Vassilatos may have finally gone insane. I warn people of this if they follow this path, it can be unhealthy for some.

73 DE N6KPH

[OrionLightShip]

At the risk of asking a stupid question, could this be the real nature of charge clusters?

At risk of actually being stupid.... I have no clue about charge clusters. Tesla, in his later years invented an open atmospheric particle accelerator ray, who knows what that was about. You can do the same thing with a plasma window in today's tech, but for the extra charge on the ammo as Tesla claims...I don't know.

The only stupid question is the one you don't ask.

Orion

[JacobS]

Got Mass? Princeton Scientists Observe Electrons Become Both Heavy And Speedy

At the risk of asking a stupid question, could this be the real nature of charge clusters?

[MonsieurM]

Here are words reportedly from an interview with Tesla: "[B]Then, sometimes, a particle larger than an electron, but still very tiny, would break off from the cathode, pass out of the tube and hit him. He said he could feel a sharp, stinging pain where it entered his body, and again at the place where it passed out.


Any help would be appreciated
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posted the following here .... http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post197749 ..... it seems to relate :


Before It's News

Got Mass? Princeton Scientists Observe Electrons Become Both Heavy And Speedy

A Princeton University-led team of scientists has shown how electrons moving in certain solids can behave as though they are a thousand times more massive than free electrons, yet at the same time act as speedy superconductors.

The observation of these seemingly contradictory electron properties is critical to the understanding of how certain materials become superconducting, in which electrons can flow without resistance. Such materials could dramatically increase the efficiency of electrical power networks and speed up computers.

The concept of "heavy" electrons seems counterintuitive. The tiny particles flit through silicon chips to process information rapidly in digital electronics, and they flow with ease through copper wires carrying electricity to your desk lamp. But the Princeton research has revealed that a hard-to-measure process known as quantum entanglement determines the mass of electrons moving in a crystal and the delicate tuning of this entanglement can strongly alter the properties of a material.

Cool the electrons to far below room temperature in certain types of solid materials, and these flighty particles gain mass, acting like much heavier particles. Surprisingly, further cooling close to absolute zero makes these solids become superconducting, where the electrons, despite their heaviness, make a kind of perfect fluid that can flow without wasting any electrical power.

Electrons moving in certain solids can behave as if they are a thousand times more massive than free electrons, but at the same time act as superconductors. A new study led by Princeton scientists shows that this happens because of a process known as quantum entanglement that determines the mass of electrons moving in a crystal. The discovery can help improve understanding of how certain materials become superconducting, which may have applications in areas such as power network efficiency and computing speed.

[SilverToGold]

Just downloaded the pdf free e-book from google books...thanks!

Orion

Well, it looks like it's there! A great read for anyone wanting an easy intro into Tesla and some very interesting facts in there also. Enjoy!

http://archive.org/download/boysbook...winv00maul.pdf

For anyone questioning Tesla as the father of UFOs, look at pages 156-157

Tesla's plan for aerial navigation is even more
startling than that for crewless ocean liners. He
thinks that the airships of the future will be propelled
by wireless power and that they will have, neither
planes nor other supporting surfaces, such as we are
so familiar with nowadays. Neither will they be
supported by gas bags like balloons and dirigibles.
The inventor thinks they will be compact and just as
airworthy as ocean liners are seaworthy. They will be
tightly enclosed, so that the terrific rush of air through
the high altitudes will not strangle the passengers
and crew. He sees no reason why the airships of
the future should not travel at a rate of several
hundred miles an hour, so that you could leave San
Francisco in the morning and be in New York in
time for a six o'clock dinner, and the theatre, or
cross the Atlantic in a night.

"How will these airships be propelled?" the boy
asked.

"By engines driven with power supplied by our
great oscillator wherever we care to erect it. These
engines will work with such incredible force that
they will make of the air above them a veritable rope
to sustain them at any desired altitude, while they
will make of the air in front of them a rope to pull
them forward at a high rate of speed." Tesla con-
tinues to say that these ships can be made just as
large as it is practicable to make their landing stages,
or small enough for one or two passengers.

He is describing an electo-mechanical ship. One based oh his Tesla Coil. After Tesla built one and realized that he didn't need all that wireless power, he used a closed loop configuration with the Tesla turbine and hydrogen or helium to power it.



And what is this "veritable rope" he talks about??



This is what was used in the early ships that the "US" government had, they were powered by hydrogen - all Tesla technology.

[OrionLightShip]

A really interesting set of interviews with Tesla that I never see online and that hardly anyone every talks about though it's one of his most fascinating interviews are the ones in a book called "The Boy's Book of New Inventions" by Harry E. Maule from 1912.

I have a copy and this is a rare interview that I bet 90% of the Tesla lovers have never ever read. It covers Tesla's Wireless Transmitter and his Tesla Turbine. Tesla also discusses his most beloved invention and the intention of all his efforts since child hood - his secret flying machine that has no wings - what we today call "UFOs".

Get this book if you can and never rely on people that can't source original material.

Just downloaded the pdf free e-book from google books...thanks!

Orion

[SilverToGold]

A really interesting set of interviews with Tesla that I never see online and that hardly anyone every talks about though it's one of his most fascinating interviews are the ones in a book called "The Boy's Book of New Inventions" by Harry E. Maule from 1912.

I have a copy and this is a rare interview that I bet 90% of the Tesla lovers have never ever read. It covers Tesla's Wireless Transmitter and his Tesla Turbine. Tesla also discusses his most beloved invention and the intention of all his efforts since child hood - his secret flying machine that has no wings - what we today call "UFOs".

Get this book if you can and never rely on people that can't source original material.

[OrionLightShip]

Pretty much.

Agreed. No bibliography (read B.S.)

[SilverToGold]

Does anyone have the writings of Tesla where the Vassilatos story originated or is this account simply a Gary Vassilatos wet dream?

Pretty much.

[SilverToGold]

You can tell a true source of valid information in that it gives it's reference info and does not leave you wondering where it came from.

Vassilatos never gives his sources. He just says so and we are to just take his word for it. How can his material be reliable with such sloppy work?

[ZeropointEnergy]

Not an electron

Here are words reportedly from an interview with Tesla: "[B]Then, sometimes, a particle larger than an electron, but still very tiny, would break off from the cathode, pass out of the tube and hit him. He said he could feel a sharp, stinging pain where it entered his body, and again at the place where it passed out.

Any help would be appreciated
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Hey Orion,

All I can add to this is when Tesla noticed this effect he conducted tests to switch to create the inductive spike (with cap in parallel with coil in later tests) to replicate the anomaly. Then, he placed copper sheets over the area to stop electrons from passing through as a conventional EM particle would behave. However, this effect could still be felt and the conclusion was the particle was not an electron.

I'm do not know that much about the other person but he is not Tesla and the overall conclusion is up to what makes sense when/if you replicate to compare your observations.

Regards
Zero

[JacobS]

I don't know who Vassilatos is, but from what I can tell, that effect is either related to electrostatic repulsion with small dust-like particles, or possibly Kenneth R. Shoulders' "exotic vacuum objects" which were basically electron clusters that behaved as atoms without a nucleus. Hope this helps in some way.

I'm almost positive that Tesla discovered the same charge clusters that Shoulders rediscovered.

[Dingus]

I don't know who Vassilatos is, but from what I can tell, that effect is either related to electrostatic repulsion with small dust-like particles, or possibly Kenneth R. Shoulders' "exotic vacuum objects" which were basically electron clusters that behaved as atoms without a nucleus. Hope this helps in some way.