Giants?

[Aaron]

A.
Present day modern man which averages about 6-feet tall + or - several inches or more.
B.
15-foot human skeleton found in southeast Turkey in late 1950's in the Euphrates valley during road construction. Many tombs containing giants were uncovered here. This pertains to the picture of the giant human femur and myself above.
C.
Maximinus Thrax Ceaser of Rome 235-238 A.D. This was an 8' 6" skeleton.
D. Goliath was about 9 feet + or - a few inches. I Samuel 17:4 late 11th century.
E. King Og spoken of in Deuteronomy 3:11 whose iron bedstead was approximately 14-feet by 6-feet wide. King Og was at least 12-feet tall, yet some claim up to 18.
F. A 19'6" human skeleton found in 1577 A.D. under an overturned oak tree in the Canton of Lucerne.
G. 23-foot tall skeleton found in 1456 A.D. beside a river in Valence, France.
H. A 25' 6 " skeleton found in 1613 A.D. near the castle of Chaumont in France. This was claimed to be a nearly complete find.
I. Almost beyond comprehension or believability was the find of the two separate 36-foot human remains uncovered by Carthaginians somewhere between 200-600 B.C.

[Aaron]

Giant Skeletons

http://www.geocities.com/saqatchr/page46.html

Ooparts & Ancient High Technology--Evidence of Noah's Flood?-There Were Giants In Those Days

[Serapis J]

There be giants!

Stichen has quite a bit to say about this. In his 1st book the 12th planet he provides exhaustive research regarding the "Nephilim" / (giants) Semetic translation/ transliteration and pre-deluge archeological finds. Fascinating and utterly convincing! If this interests you, it is definently worth a read!

[Aaron]

Nephilim

The 12th planet book is very interesting.

Also, Book of Enoch is very interesting in regards to angelology and demonology but it spells out who the "watchers" are and lots of details on the creation of the Nephilim. To the best of my knowledge, the term Nephilim actually literally translates to Earth born and not necessarily giants but those "earth born" 1/2 angels happened to be Giants.

I also have a hardback copy of the Kolbrin bible (had to order it from NZ) and the Gospel of Kailedy. The Kolbrin mentions a great destroyer in the sky, etc... very, very interesting book. Supposedly Nikola Tesla's dad gave him a copy from the Vatican archives since he supposedly had access somehow.

[Serapis J]

giants

Another Translation I have read for Nephelim is "those cast down". Clearly there are so many amazing leads to follow through the history of our origins, I continue to be baffeled why this is not a vernerated feild of study and why the inadequate accepted explanations are the status quo. I am unfamiliar with the books that you mentioned (Kolbrim), what is their origin? Also translations from Sanscrit (the Vedas) are pretty interesting as well. Due to the oral tradition of the original vedas, it is reputed that their origins excede even the oldest written records. When western scholars first scrutinized them they were dissmissed as myth or fraud due to the unpopular idea that any history could pre date the bible.

[Aaron]

The Kolbrin Bible

Hi Serapis,

The Kolbrin is very, very interesting. It is difficult to get a copy.

The Kolbrin is a collection of ancient manuscripts said to have been salvaged from the Glastonbury Abbey arson in 1184. The Kolbrin said to have a connection with Jesus historically through Joseph of Arimathea, they have been discussed online by James McCanney, Alex Merklinger and others. This site has been approved by the Culdian Trust.


(from TheKolbrin.com > The Culdian Trust Kolbrin Manuscripts)


and the below is from: The Kolbrin Bible

The Kolbrin Bible
Ancient Manuscripts ^ | circa 1184 AD | hosted by Glenn Kimball

Posted on 12/17/2005 11:44:15 PM PST by restornu

The Kolbrin Bible is truly special. This copy of the Kolbrin comes from the version from India. It was originally called the Bronze Book which survived the burning of the Glastonbury Abbey in 1184 AD. That is critical, because the Glastonbury Abbey is located squarely on the ground that was gifted to Joseph of Arimathea and the Virgin Mary by Christian King Avaragus after the crucifixion of Christ. The family of Avaragus launched all our western versions of Christianity, from Catholicism to Protestant churches.


His family owned the Palace of the Britains in Rome, which still stands today across from the Vatican, where Paul and Peter lived and launched Christianity as we know it. The Glastonbury Abbey site became a sovereign nation almost until the time of the burning of the Abbey. This is where Joseph of Arimathea began building a library which eventually survives in the form of Cambridge and Oxford to this day. Edward the First of England tried to destroy this document for several reasons.


Though no one can really know his mind set, we can presume that this version of the Bible challenged the Catholic Bible as being the only word of God. It also told a much broader story of the creation of the earth and Adam and Eve than the Bible and therefore was considered blasphemy.
The Kolbrin may not mimic our versions of the Bible, but it is the farthest thing from blasphemy. This is the surviving document taken from the original tales told by the Virgin Mary and Joseph of Arimathea. The story of the creation of the world and the people who were here when Adam and Eve came to the earth is vindicated by modern geology, astronomy, scientific theory and other surviving manuscripts from all four corners of the world.
It is my opinion that this is the lost Bible of the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel who were captured by the Assyrians in the 8th Century BC and taken all along the length of Europe into Britain before Joseph of Arimathea returned with the Virgin Mary. Their story is clear in this document and extends backwards in time to the exodus from Egypt before the tribes were lost. That perspective is priceless beyond measure. The moral codes of this book are worth the effort.


The Astronomy is worth the effort. The anthropology and science are worth the effort. As an added treat the Kolbrin gives us more about the life of Jesus himself. We must be careful to understand that over a thousand years of copying a document that the manuscript was influenced by various groups of people, not the least of which were the original Knights Templar, who believed that Jesus was wonderful, but didn’t believe he was the Messiah.


However, the Messianic evidence is in the Kolbrin as well. This version is complete and intended for scholars. It is printed in bold type with good margins for notes. It is over 500 pages long and comes in an eleven by eight inch format. This is a very large book. We will be doing shorter versions of parts of the book with extensive explanations. However, if you want the whole thing, this is it.


Remember that the burning of the Glastonbury Abbey came at a particularly interesting time. This was the time of Robin Hood and the Knights Templar at their best. The abbey is said to be the burial place for Joseph of Arimathea, the Virgin Mary and King Arthur. It is also the site where Jesus visited England during his lifetime.

[Serapis J]

Kolbrin

Aaron,
Thank you for this, I'm sure that I'll find plenty here to sift through for some time!

[Dingus]

Why is this stickied? Giants of that size can't possibly exist. 9 feet: possible. 15 feet: stretching it. 36 feet? at that size standing would be impossible & the slightest bump to the head could be fatal.

Surely if any of these skeletons were real there would have been some DNA testing done on them, or at the very least there would be some more photos of them.

[Nadda]

at that size standing would be impossible & the slightest bump to the head could be fatal.

Why do you think a bump would be fatal? A 6ft person falling from 36 feet would be fatal. But if a 6ft person fell from 6 feet, is that fatal? If you landed on your head, possibly, but 9 out of 10 times you would catch your fall with your arms and legs and not be hurt at all. The same would happen for a 36ft person falling from 36 feet. Longer arms, longers legs, thicker bone, they wouldnt get hurt at all.

Whenever i hear about giants my assumption is that they might be human but they're not from earth. It would explain why the skeletons are rare. It would also explain why any evidence that has been found would be suppressed. Afterall we cant have any foreign life on earth while driving our gasoline cars.

Also, while studying the billy meier case (which i do believe had real elements to his claims in the beginning, before those around him wanted to make money from a story) billy claimed one of the people who visited him was 15ft tall and left large footprints in the dirt as he leaned against the barn.

It certainly is possible, and IMO larger people would be very likely to exist on planets that could have rocky cores and still be 10 times bigger than earth. Afterall there are millions of earths out there.

[Aaron]

expanding Earth

I think back then the earth was much smaller and
the gravity was also much less.

YouTube - Proof Positive!- Earth Grows!

That model makes more sense than anything I've seen.

[Nadda]

Thats very cool, ive never seen any theories of that. Heres another link that shows a great model of the size and movements.

Conspiracy of Science - Earth is in fact growing

If that is true though, i would imagine that people would be smaller not larger. I just worked out a pretty big theory on the size of lifeforms and it appears that a larger body with greater muscle mass and strength would be required for a larger amount of gravity. With less gravity all objects would weigh less and require less muscle to move and survive.

I dont know any scientific information as far as weight, strength and gravity go but I worked out scenarios of our current weight and strength and what a larger planet would need as well as tie in the relation to small and skinny greys.

[Aaron]

less gravity in the past

With less gravity, I think there is less resistance to the downward push
of the aether (my model) and will be more easily able to grow upwards.

We know in the past the animals such as dinosaurs were much larger
and plants and trees dwarfed everything we have now. Also, the oxygen
concentration is estimated to be over 50% back then and it is only
about 12-13% or so now.

Estimates say Earth gains 40 tons of space dust daily. A cubic yard of dirt is about 1.5 tons so 26 cubic yards is added daily. That is 9733 cubic yards of dirt per year or almost 10 billion cubic yards of dirt per 1 million years or almost 10 trillion cubic yards of dirt per 1 billion years. When Earth is half the diameter, there was less mass then there is at the current size and the gravity would be less. Multiply that by x billions of years.

So I think that shows that we had a lot less mass on the Earth the further
back meaning less gravity.

[Nadda]

We know in the past the animals such as dinosaurs were much larger and plants and trees dwarfed everything we have now. Also, the oxygen concentration is estimated to be over 50% back then and it is only about 12-13% or so now.

Thats a good point.

What about larger planets though, if greater gravity makes us smaller we would be weaker as well. I guess it would all be relative and everything would be smaller and weaker so we esentially wouldnt even notice. Only difference being that we would jump 6 inches high instead of, over a foot, small planets with giants would be able to jump over 3 feet high, probably more like 4 feet with their greater strength.

So, if they originated here, why do think there is so little left behind, that we know of?

[ImBill]

Thats a good point.

What about larger planets though, if greater gravity makes us smaller we would be weaker as well. I guess it would all be relative and everything would be smaller and weaker so we esentially wouldnt even notice. Only difference being that we would jump 6 inches high instead of, over a foot, small planets with giants would be able to jump over 3 feet high, probably more like 4 feet with their greater strength.

So, if they originated here, why do think there is so little left behind, that we know of?

Can't answer your question, but relatively, I think you have the strength thing backwards. With more gravitational force to overcome, we would be smaller, but also stronger, relatively, to someone who lived with weak gravity. They wouldn't require as much muscle mass to move around, so would be overall weaker, I think. I think your analogy with the jumping would be accurate, but it would take greater strength to jump the 6 inches than it would to jump a few feet with less gravity. If you had such low gravity that you could literally jump into outer space, you'd be very careful about how high you jumped or walk around with a tether all the time you were outside!

Another thing is the atmosphere. The planet needs to be of a certain mass and have a gravitational force of sufficient strength to retain an atmosphere that would contain enough oxygen to allow larger growth. I suppose that the lack of gravity could be ammeliorated by an abundance of oxygen production given the right climatic conditions for a sustained length of time. My guess is that we still have a lot to learn before we can speculate on the feasibility of 36' ancestors. It's either that or tap into the Akashic records...

[Nadda]

My guess is that we still have a lot to learn before we can speculate on the feasibility of 36' ancestors.

Yeah, its all just theory with what evidence we know of, but its still fun to speculate.

I initially thought the size of life and inhabitants on a planet would trend with the size of the planet. That a larger planet with greater downward force of gravity would require inhabitants to become larger with more muscle mass to stand upright. Also thinking, with there being a greater amount of living space for inhabitants, there would be more room for everything to grow larger.

It just seems more logical than everything growing larger and larger, with less and less space. Although, as Aaron mentioned, that seems to be the case with the size of prehistoric life and the theory of an expanding earth.

It is very complex though, we have lifeforms of all different sizes with our own gravity. I think its evident that not only does gravity and oxygen play a role but the body structure itself as well.