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  • the mysteries of ME

    Originally posted by lgambis View Post
    Hi Stephen,

    I've just made a couple of comments on the thread but I did want to thank you for all the time and effort you've put into this thread exploring the Matrix Energetics modality. I'm also grateful that you took the time to explain in clear terms the mysteries of ME to newbies like myself. My only exposure is through the threads (this one and the threads on the ME site), the Youtube videos, the radio interviews, and RB's book (which leaves me with a lot of questions).

    I'm going to the ME seminar in Rhinebeck (NY) this week-end with a combination of excitement and skepticism. Excitement because I really do believe, in the wonders of Bartlett's vision. I find very attractive Rupert Sheldrake's vision of morphogenic fields and do feel there is a connection between the vision set forth by various quantum theories and all the recent and not so recent modalities that intersect with this multi-dimensional perspective of how human beings fit into this (and perhaps other) universe(s).
    I also practiced martial arts (shintaido) for a few years and that practice made me realize we are a lot more than a lump of molecule, and that our consciousness goes beyond the mass of neurons we call our brain.

    At the same time, I am reluctant to embrace what I sometimes see as flimsy self-help feel-good New Agey flavor-of-the-month philosophies. I'm originally from France so it may just be my contrarian streak talking. What's funny is that my senior philosophy thesis in college was on a French philosopher Georges Batailles who spoke about the inadequacies of language to describe mystical experiences. By the same token, it is difficult to use our linear language to describe what ME is. What also intrigues me is that in many ways (and this is something that Bartlett himself admits), there are very few guidelines/rules/guide posts in this journey. Many of the 'techniques' (tricks/reference points) are completely arbitrary.

    The message seems to be: whatever works for you. Two-points, three-points, physical/emotional/spacial/mental, it's as all that counts is the attitude, a mix of mental (intention) with an emotional state. I also get the feeling in order to make this work, you have to strike the right balance between sending/setting an intention and letting-go. I'm not too clear on that.

    I'll report back next week.

    Lance
    Stephen, I'm new to this forum and I want to learn ME could you please tell me where it is in the forum that the "mysteries of ME" were explained - or if you know of any other areas that someone has taken the time to help others with the practice. I suffer from severe back, knee and hip pain so I'm excited to see if this can help. thanks so much, Alan

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      • I'm lazy

        Hello All !

        To my shear disgrace I have been having a great deal of difficulty getting in the right state of mind for this. Is there an easy way, or a short way , or a fast way, or well just a click way.... of getting into this ?

        Andrew T
        PATHS ~ Mind Energetics <-- One month using this, and getting better.... slowly... Check it out !

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        • www.fssuniverse.com

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          • To Tim

            Nice story. Most people have a pretty crazy story of what happened to them as they were trying to get to their first seminar. I felt like something was trying to attack me on the plane LOL

            You mentioned "I also had that unusual feeling that came over me that felt like I wanted to laugh and cry at the same time but it only lasted for short moments at a time." For most, that feeling is the state of pure bliss. As you begin to come back down from that state, just remember that all your feelings rise and fall like waves.

            I'm glad you had a great time. They are so much fun to go to.
            Marnyka Z. Buttry
            Divine Openings Giver & Healer
            http://www.mytermsmylife.com

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            • Tim, I absolutely loved reading your story!! I was on the edge of my seat the entire time wondering what would happen next and how it would all play out.

              I don't think you mentioned when this all occured.

              You are a true inspiration! Do you know how many people would have given up way before they got to Atlanta? I admire your determination and preserverance
              Namaste,
              Pamela
              Discover the Single Greatest Health Science Breakthrough of the Century

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              • Hello pamela

                Originally posted by Pamela Vicik-Smith View Post
                Tim, I absolutely loved reading your story!! I was on the edge of my seat the entire time wondering what would happen next and how it would all play out.

                I don't think you mentioned when this all occured.

                You are a true inspiration! Do you know how many people would have given up way before they got to Atlanta? I admire your determination and preserverance
                There's a lot more to the story but the thing would only let me post so long of a post. I actually had to shorten it. Grace of the Chinese energetic medicine form said I tested strong for matrix energetics that's why I started studying it. Anyway I got the book and read it and tried the two pointing but didn't really notice anything working. I didn't really get it. I remember Grace saying that I didn't really have to attend a seminar to learn this but after not seeing any results from just reading the book I figured the best way to learn something is from the master himself. So I was hell bent and determined to get to that seminar. Like I said, I made the reservations and paid for the seminar in advance so if I didn't make it down there I would of lost out on all that money I spent. I really don't like to loose especially when it comes to money. But once I did get down there and was able to interact with other people and really see it in action. I started to understand. I don't really get it very well yet but I have a basic understanding of it and I'm glad I had the experience. I hope to become a master practitioner and even a teacher of this some day

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                • For Tim!

                  Originally posted by timh651 View Post
                  There's a lot more to the story but the thing would only let me post so long of a post. I actually had to shorten it. Grace of the Chinese energetic medicine form said I tested strong for matrix energetics that's why I started studying it. Anyway I got the book and read it and tried the two pointing but didn't really notice anything working. I didn't really get it. I remember Grace saying that I didn't really have to attend a seminar to learn this but after not seeing any results from just reading the book I figured the best way to learn something is from the master himself. So I was hell bent and determined to get to that seminar. Like I said, I made the reservations and paid for the seminar in advance so if I didn't make it down there I would of lost out on all that money I spent. I really don't like to loose especially when it comes to money. But once I did get down there and was able to interact with other people and really see it in action. I started to understand. I don't really get it very well yet but I have a basic understanding of it and I'm glad I had the experience. I hope to become a master practitioner and even a teacher of this some day
                  Hi Tim,

                  When I read your post from my Blackberry, I felt the same as Pammie, I would have liked to have read more of your amazing adventure, but then Life is always an amazing adventure!

                  I wanted to also tell you that you begin to experience and gain more and more knowledge of Matrix the more you practice it. As I told you before you did not need to attend a workshop to understand, because practice helps you experience, and experience gives you more and more knowledge of yourself, which in turn helps you understand on many levels.

                  Going to a workshop does help you to feel a deeper connection with others, and gives you a "reflection" of how this can help YOU, but the most important thing you can now do for yourself is practice.

                  It is just like an athlete who reads books to learn how to perform better, unless she puts what she learns to practice nothing will change.

                  I wanted to add the link to your orgonite thread so that others can easily see how beautiful they are, and read more about them from you.

                  Tim's Orgonites (Holy Hand Grenades)
                  IMMENSE LOVE AND GRATITUDE ~ GRACE

                  Linktr.ee/gracehaeusler

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                  • New to the ME thread.

                    Hey all I hope everyone is doing well. So I just picked up the first book and going to dig in tonight. I have been wanting to start learning one or more of these modalities and had been looking into CEM as I have felt drawn to that thread for awhile now. ALso Grace told me I tested strong for CEM. I was going to order one on the Yuen method books but for some reason just didn't; and the whole time my mind keeped on going back to ME. So I am not sure if I test strong for this or not but I figured I would get the book since in was at my local Borders and see what it is all about. As Grace pointed out on the CEM thread it is up to us to raise our conscienceness and keep it there; I figured I would take a little(or maybe huge) step and try this out. I still am very interested in CEM, but the book was $14 and was right there so here we go.
                    http://www.chooseyourpaths.com/
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                    • done with the book

                      So I finished the book. Really good read although I will admi I did grow a bit tired of some of the book seeming like a seminar pitch. That being said is ther anyone here that does this that has never been to a seminar? Sorry but I guess I am still a bit jaded from growing up being forced to go to "revivals" and "faith healings". I'm not saying that real healings do not happen at these, I have seen some real ones first hand. I'm just not sure about the seminar thing yet.
                      Also has anyone read the second book, or watched/listened to any of the dvd/cds? If so what is your view on these? Are they worth while or are they more "come to the seminar" type of thing?
                      Sorry if this sounded so negative, not what I meant to do. I do belive that tis is for real and I am "playing" with two pointing, not sure if I'm "getting it" yet but will continue for now.
                      One last thing. If there is anyone who is working with this that is living in San Francisco please drop me a line, I would love to meet up and maybe go a bit further down the rabbit hole.
                      Thanks everyone and I hope your all ready for a great new year.
                      Josh
                      http://www.chooseyourpaths.com/
                      Project1world

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                      • I Love Playing!

                        Hi Josh,

                        I have never been to a seminar but I read the first book during the summer of 2007... I have to admit that I didn't quite "get" the 2-point thing then, but I did witness Sharyn and tephen as well as some other fabulous friends embrace ME with vigor when they attended the seminar that summer in Hawaii... Figuring that a seminar would be necessary for me to have it "kick in" and considering that it would be unlikely that I would be able to attend one, I kind of put it all on the back burner while I further explored other spiritual/metaphysical/consciousness/quantum physics literature...

                        But in October I found myself drawn to explore ME again so I got Richard's book "The Physics of Miracles" as soon as it was released...I have to say that it has been quite a ride since then. I think you will be pleased to know that Dr.Bartlett does not push the seminars onto the reader in this book. In fact he states this early on:

                        "You do not even need to attend a seminar to learn Matrix Energetics (although they are a lot of fun). Many people have learned Matrix Energetics and have experienced miraculous results in their lives from simply reading my first book or watching me demonstrate the "techniques" on YouTube."

                        Something else stated in the introduction resonates with me deeply...especially now that I have read this one twice and have gone back to other places in it time and again...

                        "You hold within your hands a morphic unit of the actual energy field of what I call Matrix Energetics. There is a great undercurrent of power contained within the pages of this book. It is not necessary to understand any of the scientific language within to benefit from the power it holds. This information can change your life in strange and wonderful ways! Magic and miracles are the same in any language, and they can and will speak directly to your heart.
                        This book is intended to be deeply absorbed by your conscious awareness. To that end, it speaks to the reader in many different ways and on a number of levels..."

                        Do I think it is worth the read and do I recommend it? YES!!! I find it much more illuminating that the first one and I have been practicing the techniques with some fantastic results during the past few months!

                        Another thing I did a few months ago was add the PATHS Energetics Practitioners Module with the Matrix Energetics Add-On booster to my PATHS Theater and I truly believe that has been a HUGE help in allowing my subconscious to absorb the ME instructions that Stephen helped write. (Thank, Stephen...You are such a ME Master! And an adorable one as well! )

                        And aside from exploring everything on the net and studying Stephen's most BRILLIANT explanations , I've also listened to a few radio interviews on BlogTalk by Richard's daughter, Justice, who manages to explain everthing in such a delightful way.

                        I have been having so much fun playing with this and I can now see why Dr. Bartlett admits that a attending a seminar is not a necessity, but if there ever is one in my neck of the woods and I can afford to attend, I would do it in a heartbeat because everyone says they are such blast!

                        I'll pop back in soon and share with you all some of the lovely transformations that I have witnessed while playing with this consciousness technology and wish all of you who are doing your own "playing" MUCH FUN!!!

                        With Much Love, Gratitude and Gentle Blessings to All,

                        Pamela
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                        • Thank you Pamela for the info. I just picked up the second book today, I work doubles for the next three days so will not get to it until the weekend but am looking forward to it.

                          I would like to say that I really loved the idea and am doing it now of asking yourself open ended questions. Am focousing on asking myself questions that that push and defy my comfort zone of what I "know" to be real and possible.
                          http://www.chooseyourpaths.com/
                          Project1world

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                          • Hello all! New to this thread here, I just discovered it. Sounds like a lotta fun!

                            Anyways I haven't got the book yet, just ordered it so I'm hoping by next week I'll know what all of you are talking about on this thread hehe!

                            Come ta think of it I s'pose it coulda been neater if I were living someplace English so I could've just gone out to a bookstore and bought it, instead of ordering it from Amazon and waiting, and waiting, and waiting! I mean it's probably been translated into Spanish and stuff, but I never like translations if I can read the original, so many things always get lost in translation.

                            Anyways read through all this thread (yup all 17 pages! ), got onto the website, browsed a bit through their forum too (just the general one, haven't registered yet).

                            But it sounded like so much fun and so exciting, I just couldn't wait for the book to arrive to start joining in on the fun! So when my son (with asthma type symptoms, since I'm starting to get that about not labelling things anymore) went off coughing (again!) today I thought I'd pretend I knew what all of you are talking about on this thread and pretend to do that 2 pointing stuff. So I touched his little chest at 2 places, didn't really try to figure out where since I read here that the where doesn't really matter anyways, I did feel like making the 2 points a little further apart though. So then I wondered, if he had a perfectly healthy chest and was breathing freely and happily what would it feel like? So I imagined him feeling that way, saw little bronchials (or whatever they're called, 'fraid my biology's veeeeeeeery rusty!) with little happy smiles on them! So then when nothing more seemed to happen I thought **poof!! (from the ME forum where someone always says **poof!! when she ends, **poof!! just means "let go and let G-d/the universe/the Divine/Source etc.). Hard not to be attached to the outcome though, I imagine if it were someone I didn't know it would be easier not to really WANT a certain outcome!

                            That was 2 hours ago and he hasn't coughed since then though heehee! Keeping my fingers crossed...........

                            But I'm not really concerned about this so far, I figure when I get the book and get to read it I'll figure it all out and understand all of this.

                            I do wonder though, how do people 2 point issues (as opposed to illnesses/health conditions)? Issues don't really have any 2 physical points you can touch or even imagine touching. For example I read someone was 2 pointing his business and his job and his relationships, how do you do that?

                            Although I suppose I'll find out the answer soon enough when my book arrives sigh! Hope quickmail will be fast hehe!
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                            • serenac

                              short answer to 2 pointing is
                              1 point - what you see
                              2 point- what you would like to see

                              doesn't really matter. in the end you won't even 2-point anymore

                              the 2-point just helps keeps your mind busy doing something so you can get out of the way
                              Marnyka Z. Buttry
                              Divine Openings Giver & Healer
                              http://www.mytermsmylife.com

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                              • Hi Marnyka! Thanks so much for the info!

                                This sounds to me quite a bit like visualization of desired results, LOA, Mind Power, etc.

                                My son hasn't coughed again anymore, maybe just coincidence though. Or maybe not.

                                I haven't tried doing anything else, think I'll just wait till I get the book, wouldn't want to be doing it wrong! Fortunately no one around here has any pressing health issues!

                                Ooooooh I can't wait till my book arrives! But the merchant I ordered it from hasn't even emailed me to tell me he's sent it out yet!
                                Psychic Empowerment for Spiritual Growth: http://www.seasofmintaka.com/
                                Soul Realignment, Intuitive Healing, Natural Cosmetics, Travel, Walks in the Country and Just Some Good All-Round Blogging: http://theseasofmintaka.com/

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