Matrix Energetics

[prose10]

Newbie Introduction

Hello, my name is Pam, I live in the Tampa area of Florida, and I am new to PATHS. Interestingly, I found PATHS while searching for more info on Matrix Energetics! After reading everything on this forum about M.E. I decided to check out PATHS. I guess I was meant to be here.

I read M.E. and loved the book. The 2-point gave me some trouble at first, but I'm doing better with it now. I'm pretty successful with inanimate objects, ie: my car, appliances, etc., but I'm having some challenges 2-pointing myself. I wonder if this is common... Physician, heal thyself...? Anyway, there is an M.E. Seminar in Miami this coming weekend, and it is my intention to attend. Don't know if I'll make it or not... I'm waiting for the rest of the FUNds to come in. I've put it in my God Box, so let's see what happens!

Hope to chat soon. I've got to go to bed now. Just wanted to say Hi!

Love and Light,

Pam

[lgambis]

4/25-4/27 ME seminar, Rhineback NY / Impressions

My impressions of the ME seminar in Rhinebeck, NY at the Omega institute posted on the ME general discussion board:

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Personally I was on the fence before I started. Now, I'm holding to the last post on the fence with the tip of my fingers. I came to ME through Sheldrake 's morphic fields theories, which Dr. Bartlett talks about, and somehow his vision of how we can delve into the field to effect major changes in ourselves and others made sense. The Zen-like simplicity of the approach is appealing and disarming as well. And the playfulness of the MEers is contagious: made me think of that Microsoft commercial where you see (setting the intention) a house/building/school where there is empty space.

I'm still trying to figure out what went on?
Mass hallucination?(at the end of day 1, one woman felt she was like the only one who had not drunk from the punch bowl)
Hypnosis? 21st century tent revival? Powerful energy work? (I can hear RB saying 'this is not energy work. There is no work involved. I am doing nothing. Do you want to see an alternate universe? Stop 'not seeing it'.)

I noticed that women had more powerful reactions, perhaps because we men cling on a little harder to our rational selves. Who knows?

I did see some truly amazing transformations in people that were deeply rooted in their scientific certainties. The participants' background ran the entire spectrum: scientists (one aerospace engineer in particular who grew a squirrel tail), physicians, engineers (software, electrical), a correction officer, a toxicology professor and even a...chiropractor.

I know that a few minutes before the seminar ended, I visualized a fiber optic (or was it a bioport )going from my right temple to RB's so I could download some of his software. Still running the defragmenter to process the info. Aside from what went on inside the meeting space, I met some great connections with a number of people. And of course, the food and Omega's 'morphic field' made the whole experience even more enjoyable.

I hope to make it to the Newark seminar in July and see some of you there.

--Lance

[Avatarza]

[lgambis]

Musings on ME

Hi Stephen,

I've just made a couple of comments on the thread but I did want to thank you for all the time and effort you've put into this thread exploring the Matrix Energetics modality. I'm also grateful that you took the time to explain in clear terms the mysteries of ME to newbies like myself. My only exposure is through the threads (this one and the threads on the ME site), the Youtube videos, the radio interviews, and RB's book (which leaves me with a lot of questions).

I'm going to the ME seminar in Rhinebeck (NY) this week-end with a combination of excitement and skepticism. Excitement because I really do believe, in the wonders of Bartlett's vision. I find very attractive Rupert Sheldrake's vision of morphogenic fields and do feel there is a connection between the vision set forth by various quantum theories and all the recent and not so recent modalities that intersect with this multi-dimensional perspective of how human beings fit into this (and perhaps other) universe(s).
I also practiced martial arts (shintaido) for a few years and that practice made me realize we are a lot more than a lump of molecule, and that our consciousness goes beyond the mass of neurons we call our brain.

At the same time, I am reluctant to embrace what I sometimes see as flimsy self-help feel-good New Agey flavor-of-the-month philosophies. I'm originally from France so it may just be my contrarian streak talking. What's funny is that my senior philosophy thesis in college was on a French philosopher Georges Batailles who spoke about the inadequacies of language to describe mystical experiences. By the same token, it is difficult to use our linear language to describe what ME is. What also intrigues me is that in many ways (and this is something that Bartlett himself admits), there are very few guidelines/rules/guide posts in this journey. Many of the 'techniques' (tricks/reference points) are completely arbitrary.

The message seems to be: whatever works for you. Two-points, three-points, physical/emotional/spacial/mental, it's as all that counts is the attitude, a mix of mental (intention) with an emotional state. I also get the feeling in order to make this work, you have to strike the right balance between sending/setting an intention and letting-go. I'm not too clear on that.

I'll report back next week.

Lance

[sterlingpg]

Good post, Jure!

Stephen,
Thats so wonderful. Thanks for the report.
But no one writes about things that are not happening. I ve been researching a lot about Matrix Energetics, Theta healing, Huna/ Ho oponopono and at the end it all comes to doing it yourself. Either releasing, letting go, letting it happen, ... And the most important thing is that most of the practitioners dont work on those things first - change the programme of letting it go or letting it happen so it will happen. If everything depends on me why would I need someone to open and hold that perspective/ possibility.

Thank you for bringing this up!

My thoughts are that my own M.E. journey is an ever expanding experience that I pursue with a sense of wonder and curiosity without trying to limit it by my all too efficient judgment system lol. I have had enough 'miraculous' things happen to TRUST that something shifts every time but that I may not know what that is at this time. If things do not seem to be happening, I will go back again to asking "What would it look like to see things happen?" Also, I have observed seeming lack of 'things happening' from time to time that I accept as either a limitation on my own part to be 'bigger than' the situation, or an instance where transformation looks different than what is being thought is the best when something else will work better. I have increasingly noticed how important it is to really FEEL the connection, the state, the realities as not imagination but a 'real' construct we enter. There is also the idea of 'temporal software' where transformation is instantaneous but interpreted or experienced by a person over a period of time. My real point here is that whatever words we use to describe our observations will be a part of the reality we experience. I see it as our senses create the world we experience rather than usual consensus view that you observe something that is 'real' and a 'fact' whether you had senses (or whether there was an observer) to do so or not.

Your last statement about

If everything depends on me why would I need someone to open and hold that perspective/ possibility.

is a very profound point! This is why you will see me say over and over that the Matrix'er is a facilitator of transformation through the act of not-doing, if you will. Facilitator means to help out to me. Its like we open a space for transformation that the Matrix'ee does not realize exists and help them come on into it and experience the shift. I would say there is a mutual experience though -in the sense that we are all connected and one and so the transformation'er and transformation'ee are of the same material and from the same one consciousness. These are of course, just my own musings on this!

In Peace,

tephen

[sterlingpg]

Hi gaidujs!

Thank you for your post and your questions!

Dear sir

Recently in India i got copy of matrix energetics . I have few querries - Kindly clarify :

1) What is the meaning of measure the two points ( in two point method)

The two-point has been covered from many directions on this thread by so many wonderful people, however a basic recap on what I 'think' it might be, which is probably sorta true, but works, so I will go with the useful fiction. Finding two points is the minimum needed to 'make a measurement' which goes back to the discoveries of consciousness affecting sub-atomic particles such as the famous double-slit experiment, repeated many times over the last hundred years or more. Thus, with two-points we enter the realm of interacting (observing) with photons (sub-atomic) and by our focused intention. At some point we 'let go' to allow something much more powerful than what our left brain can direct to bring through transformation.

2) In the book example is given where the author two points after the bridge - When we are doing two point for relationship , bussiness , or any other thing how to get the two points . ( I mean we just sey teh intention of finding 2 points )

Ah, I like this question! For me, it quickly became obvious that the physical two-point where you feel something stuck, hard or rigid and that changes to be more stuck, hard, or rigid when you find the entangled second point, is not necessary! Yes, we can two-point long distance, and with any number of ways to perceive the points and what them being connected feels for YOU. This is where some open-ended questions can help us find the two-points (or more if ya want to get fancy lol). The trick with the questions and with our intentions is to realize the more we try and control the outcome, the more limited we make the outcome look!

3) I recently did two points for somebody with sciatica problem - When I try to merge myself ( light form) with the patient - I got goose pimples and I broke the connection - Any explanation for this ?

I don't really know what the heck is going on with M.E. most of the time lol but I can offer that whatever it looks like to you is what it looks like to you and to embrace it and TRUST that something useful is happening. Goose pimples sound cool! Grab that goose and take another gander at your patient and ask perhaps, "How is this useful?" or "What else might be useful with this?"

Thanks again gaidujs!

Enjoy the Magick!

tephen

[sterlingpg]

Thanks Doug!!!

Excellent tephen!
I have to agree with Grace.
It's always great reading your insights and experiences with M E., I appreciate the humor and your encouragement also!
M E is something I wanna do. Gotta make it to a seminar. Ha, and it would be the coolest to meet you at one of those.
You are very worthy of the !
I'll have to see if I can join that club, he he
Thanks again for all your help,
Signed,
Dougla

Hey Guys!!!!
I had a pretty cosmic M.E. event happen...
My Aunt Donna was having heart surgery yesterday and it went from a few stints to a triple bypass instead. My Mom called last night at 10pm in tears saying complications, a tear in the heart, etc. happened - it didn't look good. She asked me "to send some positive vibes"
I realized it was time to 2 point!!! I grabbed the M E book, brushed up on two pointing and used a surrogate for the process. WOW, it's amazing how your mind can work and the Love I felt - that is awesome!! I kept focusing on a well heart, but also saw the doctor being surprised on how well she was - that was cool. I put my heart and soul into it and maybe over did it. I was pretty tired the next morning -- Is that possible? (or mebbe emotions)

So..... the next day today, I get a message on my phone from Dad saying her color came back, she's feeling great and may even get out of the hospital today or tomorrow!!!! Whew !!! Awesome!! I was thinking of you guys and was looking forward to reporting good news.
You guys are all so amazing and it's so good to be part of this group. I am SO looking forward to a seminar for M.E. It is truly a treasure to be associated with some of the best things we can do for ourselves and our planet and I thank you for bringing them to me.
Thank You, Thank you, Thank YOU!!

And Thank YOU for your posts including the one with the experience of the two-point for your Aunt Donna!

The part about feeling tired has a lot to do with your own beliefs about what something looks like to you. If participating as a facilitator of transformation with M.E. is tiring and 'work', then thats what it will look like for you - it is ALL made up by you! So perhaps when doing two-pointing or other Matrix stuff you might ask as part of your intention for the transformation, something like this: "What would it look like to do this two-point and feel energized?"

Matrix Energetics is not 'running energy' thus, there is no need to feel tired (though even if one is doing a running energy modality perhaps a new belief about how that looks - if they find it tiring - might help? ). In entering the matrix of infinite playful possibilities, it is our focused intention and Letting Go, getting out of the way, that allows the shift to come through. I have observed that many new to M.E. tend to hold the 'state' for a much longer time than after some experience with it accumulates. When you watch Dr. B and his entourage, the whole two-point, and other time travel etc, happen VERY fast and they get the heck out of the way!!! Many of them have it set up that even before they interact with someone in person or at distance that it is already DONE and you basically go through the motions of the process, though its important to really FEEL the connection and not just imagine the archetypes and so forth, but to play with what is showing up seemingly 'out of nowhere' or that which is Now Here!

Now, another quick story about helping someone in the hospital that I experienced a few months back. A friend of mine barely missed a full-on heart attack and was rushed to the hospital. Later that evening, I set about to do some M.E. and decided to use a pillow as a surrogate. After dropping down, and finding two-points, feeling them connected, I began to notice a strange thing about the pillow - it appeared to be breathing!!! I mean, I tested what I was experiencing to see if it was just my own breathing I was feeling through my arms moving - nope! It was out of time with my breathing. Though I was curious about it, I didn't want to focus too much on that by examining with my eyes (they were closed) so I just went with it and wow, what a strange sensation to feel the gentle rising and falling of the pillow under my hands!! Oh, and essentially the very best outcome came through for my friend. He didn't have to have surgery and was able to leave the hospital very soon after and did the usual allopathic course of rehabilitation before they'd let him go to work. But I'll never forget that sensation of the pillow breathing!

In Peace,

tephen

[V lulu]

SallyJane,
Your reply was so detailed and generous, and i want you to know that I'm going to follow your advice and just trust.
Your story is pretty amazing; I'm so glad things have really turned around for you and your girls, that's beautiful.
Have a great night! Sleep well and dream about all those great questions!
xoxox
Vanessa

[V lulu]

Thanks girls!!!! I'm gonna keep practicing! You guys are so inspiring!!
I'll let you know how it goes! Congratulations with the success and magic!
xoxoxox
Vanessa

[Avatarza]

I love it, and the way you describe everything is right on.

Aaron, I found this forum because I googled "Matrix Energetics" to see what would come up! It was about at the bottom of the first page when I did, months ago now.

Isara

[zartgirl]

Just a little update!

This is just a little update! Well today I finally got to the point in the book where it tells you how to two point... so I put the book down cause I was reading about work and I could not practice what it was saying... Another story completely!

So Grace told me that my body does not know the difference between a "real" workout and a visualized one... I just needed to meditate on the visualization... I was having a hard time with this! So I started experimenting with 2 pointing and asking what it would look like to go deeper and deeper into the 2 point and the zero point field... Then I decided while there I would do my visualized workout! I spent maybe 3 minutes on my workout part of the 2 point? Okay... I have lost 5 pounds in two days! Is this like exciting or what??????

Yes this is me jumping up and down and screaming from the rooftop! I just love it cause it does not fit into the physcial realm!

HUGS Sallyjane (All this with no formal training in this, so you all can do this!)

[Pamela Vicik-Smith]

Woo hoo!! Very cool!!!

[Aaron]

Matrix Energetics

Stephen! It looks like you and Grace have some serious Matrix engineering abilities This amazing Matrix Energetics thread you started is usually coming up between #2-5 in Google when people are searching for Matrix Energetics!

Go to Google and type in Matrix Energetics and you can see what I mean...go click on the thread's link to see that it takes you right back here. There are no other forums for Matrix Energetics listed above your thread in Google showing that most likely, you have started the MOST popular Matrix Energetics thread on the internet!

[zartgirl]

Vanessa

You are making it harder than it is! Relax!

Okay, when you find your two points, then just ask open ended questions from there on... Like what would this connection look like? What would this connection feel like? What do I notice about this connection? What am I noticing in me? What does this two point look like? What does it feel like? and then you can move into other open ended questions, like what would it feel/look like to ...? What do I notice about this? and just keep asking open ended questions for as long as you feel like.

I too have an awesome imagination (it is the artist in me), but in two pointing I don't put it away, but instead I just let my higher self guide me through this. I do get awesome visualizations... for instance when I am two pointing my abundant monies... the archetype is like a waterfall, but instead a money fall, and the pond at the bottom is my bank account. In some issues like with my job I am at now, when I two point it I always see a door closing! Then I see a new bigger better door opening... New opportunities are already starting to open up to me in my work situation.

Then there are times where I may not get a visual, that is usually when I two point sleep. There is no visual for it, but when I am done... I go off sound to sleep, and I rarely have to two point my sleep these days! But before Stephen taught me to two point, I took sleeping pills everynight to get to sleep and had taken them for years to just be able to get a few hours of sleep. Now I sleep all night long.

I also have started using the open ended questions at night as I am falling off to sleep. I don't neccessarily find two points and formally do it, but as I am falling off to sleep I am asking myself open ended questions. Oh things like for instance last night I went to bed asking what it would feel/look like to have a awesomely fast metabolism? I went to sleep with a burning sensation in my stomach area. I also had some other questions I was asking as I fell off to sleep. For me this is awesome, because I am a lucid dreamer, so my questions just kept on flowing throughout my dreamms and I awoke this morning still asking questions at 5 am! Then I put myself back to sleep with more questions. It was awesome! I goal is to make this a normal part of life, just what I do... Living in an altered state of thinking, as to manifest and completely transform my life the rest of the way. Stephen told me the other day I should be the poster child for transformation!

Okay just in case you have not read my posts, I learned to two point over MSN from stephen. I just bought the book, but I am still in the scientifical part... Today I will get into the magical part! I am very much wanting to experience the seminar, and I am awaiting some magic to allow me to do so in May in Seattle! So if I can do this, so can you! No excuses! Hehe!

Just a little more about me to let you know you really can do this... from July of last year till March 1st of this year, I was living in a shelter with my kids! Every part of my life I have now was created magically, and not logically! I now have a house, an awesome car I love, and a job that the door is closing on and a new job that the door is opening on. I have complete custodial custody of my kids, and my X no longer scares me or controls me, actually we are able to get along great now and he is helping me get my licensing that I need for my new job (financially). Never JUDGE any situation as BAD or GOOD, just as! Be thankful for everything and appreciate it all as a blessing! Transformation isn't that hard, but whatever you want to change in your life you have to be okay with it as it is before you can change it. This was hard for me, but I am coming to terms with so much... my weight is neither bad nor good it is just what it is. Same with my job... A big issue has arisen in the fact that I have NO HOME... no I have a house I live in, but I have never had a HOME! This has always bugged me, but this last week or so I have come to terms with it. It is what it is... Actually it is and awesome opportunity for me, because I get to pick where I want HOME to be, or I can continue on like a ship on the ocean docking here and there, but never putting down a foundation of cement into the ground, gathering friends at every port and just being where I am at any one point I am at, maybe that is what is more important.

JUST BE and the REST WILL COME!

[Avatarza]

Hi Vanessa,
I will be in LA, so let's look for each other! It is a great time! I'm so happy I can access all of this.
The wave / 2 pt shows up how it does for you.

Connect, defocus, and drop down, let go and see how it shows up for you. Place intent is somewhere in there. Then again, it is not always the same.

Isara