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  • #16
    Originally posted by aljhoa View Post



    There is a reason why science has been successful and technology is widespread.

    Al
    A new or old perpetual motion machine ?
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    Last edited by socratus; 04-13-2018, 03:09 AM.

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    • #17
      i asked ''WHAT IS LIFE? '' but i didn't know
      how to answer this question and ''aljhoa'' two images
      (ether and vibration) suddenly gave me answer:
      ''i cannot know what life is, if i don't know the conditions of existence''
      #
      Why are so many speculations about QT interpretation?
      Because nobody think about
      ''in which conditions does quantum particle exist?''
      #
      One thing is to study what fish is in restaurant and
      another thing is to study fish in the natural environment.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by socratus View Post
        A new or old perpetual motion machine ?
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        Is it bona fide?


        Al

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        • #19
          Good luck with that...

          Logic is important and good foundations are important. If your foundation is weak your logic fails. And, that is the issue that confronts you. You can try to avoid it but it will keep coming back. Perhaps you don't realize the flaws in your position and statements. Perhaps the problem is mine. But, we can't both be right and I will continue in what makes logical sense to me. You will have to resolve this on your own because what I have said apparently does not have any weight with you. Good luck.
          There is a reason why science has been successful and technology is widespread. Don't be afraid to do the math and apply the laws of physics.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by aljhoa View Post


            Is it bona fide?
            Al
            ''big bang theory'' says:
            ''singularity came from big bang, and big bang came from singularity.''
            It is an abstract math table tennis ''ping pong''.* Scientific players hit
            a little, light, singular ball back and forth across a table without asking
            the first important question: '' where does real matter-ball come from?''
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            • #21
              Originally posted by socratus View Post
              '' where does real matter-ball come from?''
              5 May 1920 Lecture at the University of Leiden

              Al

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              • #22
                Article 2017
                "Philosophers ponder the meaning of life.
                At least, that is the stereotype.
                When I risk admitting to a stranger that I teach philosophy
                for a living and face the question What is the meaning of life?,
                I have a ready response: we figured that out in the 1980s,
                but we have to keep it secret or wed be out of a job;
                I could tell you, but then Id have to kill you.
                In fact, professional philosophers rarely ask the question
                and, when they do, they often dismiss it as nonsense."
                /by Kieran Setiya, professor of philosophy /
                https://aeon.co/ideas/philosophers-s...eaning-of-life

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by socratus View Post
                  they often dismiss it as nonsense
                  by George Harrison


                  Al

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by aljhoa View Post
                    Thanks.
                    ''Oh tell me, what is my life without your love
                    Tell me who am I without you by my side?''
                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uutv0lBTbyk

                    Nice song about '' Romeo and Juliet '' love.
                    But . . .
                    What Is Life
                    George Harrison
                    What I feel, I can't say
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                    What is life he can't say . . . . love + . .. + million another small things.
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                    Last edited by socratus; 04-30-2018, 12:28 PM.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by socratus View Post
                      What is life he can't say . . . . love + . .. + million another small things.
                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SARNeq0oGUo

                      PARADOX

                      Al

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                      • #26
                        LIIFE : CAUSATION: ''a top and bottom''

                        TOPIC: Downward causation:
                        George Ellis at the 6th FQXi Meeting
                        FQXi BLOGS, September 2, 2019
                        https://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/3322
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                        CAUSATION: ''a top and bottom''
                        #
                        '' . . . he is not entirely convinced that there is a top or bottom. ''
                        #
                        At the most fundamental level, upward and downward causation
                        must not only both exist, but must exist in a very specific form.
                        / Robert H McEachern /
                        #
                        Bottom-up causation can presumably only work if we know
                        everything about the bottom, but we have no certain knowledge
                        that there is a bottom, that there are not, indeed,
                        "turtles all the way down".
                        / Peter Warwick Morgan /
                        #
                        ( . . . we don't even know if there *is* a bottom)
                        / Blogger Ian Durham /
                        #
                        We do know that there is a bottom and we know exactly
                        what it looks like - a single bit of information
                        (Shannon's definition of a bit, not physicist's)
                        / Robert H McEachern /
                        https://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/3322
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                        • #27
                          TOPIC: Downward causation
                          I want to take a moment to clarify a point about downward causation that I misunderstood for a long time. A frequent criticism that I have heard of downward causation is that it is nothing more than intelligent design in disguise. As I have come to realize, this is not even remotely true. I suspect it is this misunderstanding that has partly led Ellis to prefer the term “downward” over “top down” since he is not even convinced that there is a top level anyway. His point is made particularly well on the second-to-last slide which is appropriately titled “Conclusion: Evolution is nothing but biology learning how to conscript physics for its purposes”. The real world consists of both upwardly causal as well as downwardly causal phenomena. A full understanding of this world, then, necessarily involves understanding both these classes of causal phenomena.

                          https://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/3322


                          Control of Brain Development, Function, and Behavior by the Microbiome
                          Animals share an intimate and life-long partnership with a myriad of resident microbial species, collectively referred to as the microbiota. Symbiotic microbes have been shown to regulate nutrition and metabolism, and are critical for the development and function of the immune system. More recently, studies have suggested that gut bacteria can impact neurological outcomes – altering behavior and potentially affecting the onset and/or severity of nervous system disorders. In this review, we highlight emerging evidence that the microbiome extends its influence to the brain via various pathways connecting the gut to the central nervous system. While understanding and appreciation of a gut microbial impact on neurological function is nascent, unraveling gut-microbiome-brain connections holds the promise of transforming the neurosciences and revealing potentially novel etiologies for psychiatric and neurodegenerative disorders.

                          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4442490/


                          DNA is a fractal antenna in electromagnetic fields.
                          CONCLUSIONS:
                          The wide frequency range of interaction with EMF is the functional characteristic of a fractal antenna, and DNA appears to possess the two structural characteristics of fractal antennas, electronic conduction and self symmetry. These properties contribute to greater reactivity of DNA with EMF in the environment, and the DNA damage could account for increases in cancer epidemiology, as well as variations in the rate of chemical evolution in early geologic history.

                          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21457072


                          Al
                          Last edited by aljhoa; 09-06-2019, 04:49 AM. Reason: 2,467

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by aljhoa View Post
                            TOPIC: Downward causation
                            I want to take a moment to clarify a point about downward causation
                            that I misunderstood for a long time.
                            A frequent criticism that I have heard of downward causation
                            is that it is nothing more than intelligent design in disguise.
                            As I have come to realize, this is not even remotely true.
                            I suspect it is this misunderstanding that has partly led Ellis
                            to prefer the term “downward” over “top down”
                            since he is not even convinced that there is a top level anyway.
                            His point is made particularly well on the second-to-last slide
                            which is appropriately titled
                            “Conclusion:
                            Evolution is nothing but biology learning how
                            to conscript physics for its purposes”.
                            The real world consists of both upwardly causal as well as
                            downwardly causal phenomena.
                            A full understanding of this world, then, necessarily involves
                            understanding both these classes of causal phenomena.

                            https://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/3322
                            TOPIC: Downward causation
                            My point about downward causation
                            #
                            We can understand ''Evolution and Causation'' only using Physical laws,
                            from Quantum laws (as down level) to Biology laws (as top level)
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                            Last edited by socratus; 09-07-2019, 05:48 AM.

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