Hemp Protien Question:

[VJoy]

Hi folks, SORRY TO BE SUCH A PAIN IN THE REAR .....I am really struggling to find what works for me,.......I found out this afternoon that I cannot take ANY spirulina....not only is it constipating, I saw a friend this afternoon that told me it was like I was on huge caffine dose.......I am so ramped up, and she recognized it from when SHE tried spirulina and the same thing happened to her, she couldn't sleep, (like me), was bouncing around like crazy (like me).........so not only is it constipating, it is making me a nevous, jittery mess!! I must stop it.

I CAN take Hemp protein.......my question is this: Based on the nutritional info below, how much should I take for what I am doing now, watching

TWO modules + SLEEP(advanced boost).


Living Harvest's Hemp Protein is the perfect high performance plant-based whole food. Our Hemp Protein is 100% certified organic, raw, gluten free and vegan. It contains all 10 Essential Amino Acids, with 45%-50% protein per serving, a well-balanced ratio of Omega 3 and Omega 6 Essential Fatty Acids, and GLA.

Serving size: 4 Tablespoons

13 grams of digestible protein
9 grams of dietary fiber
600 mg of Omega-3
1,700 mg of Omega-6 with GLA
All 10 Essential Amino Acids
Essential Vitamins and Minerals including: Vitamin E, Calcium, Magnesium, Potassium, and Iron


I cannot figure the math compared to spirulina, I wish to know how many tablespoons I would need to take to accomadate 2 modules and SLEEP(advanced boost).


Anyone who can help me, thank you so much!!!!

[belle99]

Val,

I'm not a doctor, but it sounds like you've got a neurotransmitter imbalance and somehow the composition of the aminos in the spirulina isn't right for you. Hang in there...

You may want to talk to your doctor about supplementing with GABA.

I use hemp protein in addition to spirulina and a sports recovery protein/carb shake mix in my smoothies. I like the hemp protein because it is more digestible than soy and has a lot of good aminos in it.

[VJoy]

Hi Belle!! thanks so much!

Yes, I was tested for neurotransmitters, and came up short some of them. I am on supplimentation from my doctor, but it isn't enough for PATHS. She wouldn't know about this though, I showed it to her and she thought it was interesting, but didn't know enough about the suppliments to accommadate PATHS.

I have a feeling your "sports recovery protein/carb" is made from whey or soy, right? I can't take that, I am allergic to dairy, and should not take too much soy, as I have very high estrogen.

I can't take any spriulina.

I don't understand though, HOW MUCH Hemp powder to take every day for 2 modules plus SLEEP/(advanced boost)........which is why I posted the nutrient info......

Thanks hon.....

[belle99]

The product does have whey protein in it, which some dairy-sensitive people can tolerate, some can't.

Somewhere there was a post with the nutritional breakdown of all the amino acid amounts in a gram of spirulina. Here's a web page with the same information. Scroll down and you will see the nutritional profile of spirulina. 6200mg total amino acids per 10 grams spirulina: SpirulinaSource.com | Earth Food Spirulina | Chapter 2

Here's the nutritional breakdown of hemp protein with amino acid amounts per 100 grams: Nutiva Organic Hemp Protein Powder - 37% Protein

They seem to be roughly the same % of amino acids.

The amino acids that can make a person jittery are tyrosine and phenylalanine. The way I read the numbers, spirulina has a higher concentration of both of these aminos compared to the same amount of hemp.

I think if you just try the same # of grams of hemp protein as the recommended spirulina intake, you will be getting the same amount of amino acids as other Paths users, just in slightly different proportions, which may be better for you. I hope this helps!

[VJoy]

HI Belle.........

Sorry, I am a complete dunce when it comes to these comparisons, I looked at the charts you supplied, and couldn't connect the comparisons.


SSooo........from what you are saying, they are about the same, but I am still confused as to how many grams to take of Hemp....I went back up to the first post and looked at the content.........
Do you mean the 13 grams of digestible protein?

4 Tablespoons = 13 grams digestible protein........if I need around 2-3000 grams of spirulina for EACH module, and I am on 2 modules plus SLEEP, then...........is the 4 tablespoons of Hemp okay?

I am so sorry that I get confused with this stuff, I always have been very bad at figuring this kind of thing......

Thanks sooooo very much!!

[future pather]

Val,

The thing is it requires experimenting for everyone to determine how much amino supplementation best suite their PATHS use.

I think that is why you are not getting a direct "prescription" from anyone here.

I say, don't worry so much about it. Take as much amino supplementation as you can and just try to relax about it

XO Jessica

[belle99]

Val,

I think 4 tablespoons is about right.

I take 1 tablespoon hemp protein powder, one scoop (about 2T) of the sports recovery mix, and 4 grams of spirulina in tablet form each day. I do this first thing in the morning. Sometimes, like right before my period, I might take extra tyrosine or branched chain amino acids. I also swear by free-range meats such as buffalo or grass-fed beef; something about that protein source is like a miracle energy drug for me. I'm a blood type A, however, so a couple times per week is sufficient.

I am a nutrition nerd.

[VJoy]

Thanks Jessica and Belle!

Jessica, I know I should relax.......I just want this to work so badly, and if I am not taking enough, it might not work, when another spoonful or so might make the difference......I get very analytical, and you are right, I guess everyone is different......Thanks!

Belle.......Okay, I guess I can try just taking the 4 Tablespoons. I can't take the other suppliments you mention, I wish I could....
.....and I don't eat meat, I can't.

Much appreciated!

[Sharyn]

Hi Val,
The suggested dose of 2 -3 gms of spirulina per module is only a suggestion for people to get a bit of a ball park figure to begin with. It isn't set in concrete. As everyone else has said it takes a bit of experimenting to find what works for you. Some people may find they need 4 grams of amino acids for a couple of modules, some people may find that amount is fine with 4 or more modules.

The clue to knowing if you need to take more amino acids is by how you FEEL. Some common physical signs that people often experience when their brain needs more amino acids whilst watching Paths are headaches, tiredness, muzzy head, ache behind the eyes etc.

If you are watching Paths with the minimum amount of amino acids that you can comfortably tolerate & are not experiencing any of the above for the moment then you are probably taking enough. As Kevin said don't assume Paths is not working just because you are not taking 2 gms per module.

If you are experiencing some of these symptoms then just try gradually increasing the doseage until the symptoms disappear. Then you know that you are taking enough. Usually after awhile you can then revert back to a lower dose. It is very much a case of playing it by ear .

Try & remember that "thoughts become things". Whilst you are thinking that Paths won't work without amino acids that is the reality that you are solidifying & creating. Try setting the intention before you watch your mods. that your brain is able to absorb & utilise the instructions easily & with the minimum of amino acids (I think Kevin may have suggested in slightly different words something similar on the other thread).

I can understand & sympathise with your inabilty to eat so many different types of foods etc as I have been there myself. It wasn't until I realised & became aware that I spent a lot of time with mind chatter telling myself constantly "I can't eat this or that because it makes me ill or such & such a symptom will appear" that I was able to begin to effect change. I realised that by constantly reminding myself every time I ate something or especially while I was doing the grocery shopping that "I couldn't have that/ shouldn't buy that because ... ... x will happen" I was creating that situation as my only reality & ensuring that I stayed locked in that pattern.

My gastroenterologist told me I was likely to have my condition for life ( another predictive & solidifying statement!). Through changing my thoughts & where I focused my awareness I was able to make improvements & with the help of an energetic modality I am now completely cured, pain free & healthy & I can eat anything that I desire!

Try if you can to allow the possibility of another reality opening up for you by writing & meditating on some open ended statements:

eg What would it be like if I could eat anything that I liked without suffering side effects?
What would it feel like to have a healthy body?
What would I feel like if I could eat ginger etc.....?
What would my body feel like if ..... etc?
What would it be like if day by day if I could eat more & more different types of foods?

Try writing a list of positive affirming statements surrounding the foods that are currently giving you problems (in the present tense).
Try & visualise IBS / allergies as a temporary situation & give room for change to happen.

Above all, RELAX!

Love, Light & Blessings
Sharyn

[Aaron]

protein

Hi Val,

What kind of proteins are you able to take ample amounts of without trouble?

Asking any health professional about what to take for PATHS would be impossible for them to answer without them having experience working with a lot of people that have used it.

However, asking about brain nutrition for some very super active brain exercises might get a better answer.

Sharyn hit the nail right on the head: The clue to knowing if you need to take more amino acids is by how you FEEL.

If you haven't felt tired in the head or anything like that just from PATHS, then you're probably just fine with the aminos. It sounds like your hemp mix alone is probably doing the job even without taking a big dose.

The constipation issue is of concern and I believe if you can find the key to that, a lot of these foods and supplements will be more tolerable for you. I grew up being irregular and thought it was normal.

Flax oil, magnesium, probiotics made a huge difference for me. Of course eliminating almost all white bread, white processed sugar and white rice from diet probably made the biggest difference. They are pure white and deadly and the white flour and white rice are extremely constipating. I don't know if you have those in your diet but if you do, they may contribute to the problem.

Actually, that GR-8 has helped some family and friends with chronic constipation and of course take plenty of water with it.

[Raindancer]

Constipation

Super II, available online, also works terrific for constipation!

Love, Light and Gratitude,
Raindancer

[VJoy]

Hi Sharyn, Aaron and Raindancer, thank you!!

OMG, Sharyn, I was just thinking I was going to post on my problems in the section I saw here on Law of Attraction, and ask about PATHS coming my way, yet I am having so much trouble with the suppliments!! And I swear, I come to the computer and come here and there you are talking about LOA!!!!!

I still want to post over there, because I am new to LOA, and have an impossible time absolutely believing things, but I will talk about that there. I know it takes practice.

ANYHOO......thank you for your response, I don't have any of those symptoms you mention, but that might mean that PATHS also hasn't started working yet? I only started about a week and 1/2 ago. I understand it could take up to 3 months, so I assumed that even without those symptoms, PATHS may just not be sinking in yet....

Does PATHS start working even before we feel the positive changes, I wonder?

Anyway, thank you so much for the advice Sharyn, I will try to do it......relax and see what happens...although that is hard, cause I want to know it is working NOW!!

I am so glad that you are feeling better!!!

Thanks Aaron, ---would PATHS make me tired in the head even before I started to think and feel better? See, I figured it isn't working yet, so I can't tell yet if I need more aminos. And, PATHS might not be working at all BECAUSE I don't have enough aminos.....??

To answer your question, the only high enough protein source I can tolerate for this, is the Hemp.

I have tried Flax seed, the magnesium, and probiotics, all of which didn't work for me. The only suppliments that help even a little for me are aloe and fiber suppliments. I went to the store yesterday and got the NOW GR8-Dophilus that you suggested, and have started taking that, since I never tried that brand. My diet is very clean as far as flour....I have learned what isn't good for my IBS. And now I have to add spirulina to that

I appreciate your help Aaron!

And thank you Raindancer, I will look into that.

Thank you EVERYONE!!!

[future pather]

Does PATHS start working even before we feel the positive changes, I wonder?

Just look over the forum a bit, especially the PATHS section and the PATHS FAQ section.

You will be able to figure that out and find ways that you will probably be able to tell for yourself specifically. Most likely it is, but do look at the FAQ


Jessica

[Kevin]

Hi Val,

Lot's of good information in this thread.

I think the important to keep in mind is that you do not need spirulina for PATHS to work.

Some people may be thinking...WHOA, I thought you had to take spirulina for PATHS to work.

Actually, here is a quote from the FAQ on the PATHS website-

"The brain, to function properly, needs adequate nutrition...Amino acids and minerals are of particular importance in getting the most productivity out of your unconscious brain.

Some people, IF they do not have sufficient amino acids and/or minerals in their system (from either a poor diet or lack of proper supplementation), will experience periods of tiredness as the unconscious part of their brain attempts to process the instructions but does not have the "energy" (proper nutrition-amino acids and minerals) to do it. This is easily remedied by supplementing your diet with amino acids (spirulina is the best source for that) and a good multi-mineral."

This does not mean that YOU, Val, need any supplementation. AND, if you do, it does not need to come from spirulina. AND, if you do, it might be that you don't need much at all.

Everyone is different...I have over 10 modules and used to take only 1-3 grams of spirulina a day...now I drink one ounce of Zrii a day. AND, like Pamela, sometimes I go a few days with nothing...and do not experience any negative effects.

You will know if you need more neurotransmitters for PATHS to be optimally effective- "If you are feelings foggy, tired or irritable", then you probably need more neurotransmitters...and these neurotransmitters can come from ANY source of amino acids.

I am 100% confident that you can get this worked out!

[Keoi]

Hi Val,

Now don't tell anybody but I don't take spirulina at all ! I did for a while but I am the type of person that is not good about taking any type of supplements. Always have good intentions in the beginning but just can't seem to stay with it. Paths works either way supplements or not. The mind fog that is felt by some always seemed that it is more like the little ole brain is making connections on its own and it is growing pains so to speak. We are amazing creatures!


Try telling yourself that your brain is functioning at peak performance as an exercise. It works for me!
Good luck and I am sending you lotsa calm peaceful energy!