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  • #76
    Miscalculations....

    The ministry has accumulated 73 mSv miscalculation in the town Namie, Tokyo Shimbun, June 3, 2011:

    Translation by EX-SKFFukushima Water Has More Radiation Than Released Into Air, Bloomberg, June 2, 2011:Spent Reactor Fuel Risk Greater in U.S. Than Japan, Study Says, New York Times by Matthew L. Wald, May 24, 2011:
    'Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened'

    General D.Eisenhower


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    • #77
      Originally posted by blackchisel97 View Post
      By Alyangka Francheska | June 3, 2011 10:19 AM EST

      Japan's already reeling economy could be crushed by over-reaction to the Fukushima disaster, warns radiation scientist T.D. Luckey in the summer 2011 issue of the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons.

      - "Japan should not repeat the mistake that Russia made in the tremendous unwarranted expense of its reaction to Chernobyl. As Mikhail Gorbachev understood too late, "The nuclear meltdown at Chernobyl 20 years ago...was perhaps the real cause of the collapse of the Soviet Union five years later."

      Japan should not act on the false presumption, shared by most of the world's press, that all radiation is harmful, Luckey states. Although high-dose radiation is clearly lethal, and excess doses (>200 mSv over an extremely short time, as from the atomic bomb blasts) can induce cancer, thousands of scientific papers show actual benefits from low doses, including the prevention of cancer and birth defects."

      - "We live with chronic radiation deficiency," Luckey believes. The worldwide background dose of about 3 mSv per year is much less than the optimum dose of around 100 mSv per year; this is 100 times lower than the dose that divides healthful from harmful effects of excess radiation.

      Chronic exposure of around 50 mSv per year for two decades in accidentally contaminated apartments in Taiwan was associated with only 3.5 cancer deaths per 1,000, compared with the 116 per 1,000 "normally" expected.

      Cancer mortality in 7,430 survivors of Hiroshima and Nagasaki who received between 10 and 19 mSv was significantly lower than that of controls.

      At Fukushima there have been no cases of radiation sickness, and no deaths from radiation exposure. The feared cancer deaths are all theoretical ones, predicted for years in the future. Based on past experience, there will probably be fewer cancer deaths than "normal," Luckey concludes.

      Japan should not imitate Russia in squandering billions of dollars to "protect" people from radiation that is actually beneficial. It should instead base its response on sound scientific data rather than unjustified fear."

      And - AP Exclusive: Czechs see future in uranium - Yahoo! News


      Can I throw up now?


      Vtech
      There was a similar article to this on one of the major news channels some weeks ago and also a top TV personality spouted the same thing even earlier and not long after the reactor explosions.

      This is typical Orwellian doublespeak, its about brainwashing the sheeple. The very fact that this is being repeated and repeated again tells you that it is part of the agenda of coverup. The repetition will continue until it becomes an urban myth, at that point you will be a conspiracy theorist to say radiation is harmful.

      My ex was some kind of radiographer who treated cancer and yes xrays can kill cancer just as easily as it can kill any other tissue in our bodies and this will be used to perpetuate the myth but, it is also a fact that a person who has been treated this way has a short life expectancy in the majority of cases.

      I am shouting here...NO LEVEL OF RADIATION IS GOOD.

      What warms my heart is that many of the people on this forum are awake and the number is increasing.

      We cannot escape the effects of this disaster, anywhere. It is up to us that are informed to educate others about the cancer spike that is sure follow.

      Keep up the good work

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      • #78


        Finally they admitted...

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        'Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened'

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        • #79
          Radiation monitoring continues near damaged Japanese nuclear plant, UN reports, UN News Centre, June 2, 2011:

          There is some more info on Ginko Biloba:



          Flavanoids in general have very high protective and curative properties for radiation. It was used successfully with Chernobyl victims. They should be taken just before and after getting a CT or X-Ray.

          Herbal Tonic For Radiotherapy? Gingko Biloba Tree May Protect Cells From Radiation Damage

          MORE ON HOW GINKO BILOBA WORKS


          Get more radiation protection with ginkgo and other natural supplements

          " NaturalNews) Reports on the radiation from Fukushima and on what we can do to protect ourselves are perplexing. Three things are certain: There is radiation leaking and spreading, and it is most dangerous as it seeps into our water and food supplies. And iodine supplements or iodine from kelp can block the iodine isotopes from rushing into our thyroids and disrupting our endocrine systems.

          But the iodine isotope has the shortest half-life of all radioactive particles. Cesium isotopes hang around for thirty years, and strontium and others have even longer half lives. So what else can help reduce or reverse radiation damage?

          Real Life Heavy Radiation EpisodesGinkgo in the Lab

          Empirical evidence is hardly acceptable by modern science. So Chang-Mo Kang of the Korea Institute of Radiological and Medical Sciences in Taegu led a research team in an ex-vivo human study of radioactive damage to white blood cells. Ex-vivo means testing outside the organism."

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          • #80
            Transcript for Exclusive Arnie Gundersen Interview: The Dangers of Fukushima Are Worse and Longer-lived Than We Think, Chris Martenson, June 3, 2011:Transcript for Exclusive Arnie Gundersen Interview: The Dangers of Fukushima Are Worse and Longer-lived Than We Think - Chris Martenson - Arnie Gundersen, contamination, fission, Fukushima, nuclear, radioactivity

            High levels of radiation found at Japan nuclear plant, DPA, June 4, 2011:

            High levels of radiation were detected at the damaged Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant in north-eastern Japan, the operator said Saturday.

            Tokyo Electric Power Co (TEPCO) said it sent a robot into the building of reactor 1 Friday and detected up to 4,000 millisieverts per hour at the south-east corner of the building. [...]

            The operator also said late Friday two workers at the plant were confirmed to have received cumulative doses of radiation far higher than the official limit.

            TEPCO, which has been criticized for its lax safety management, said more workers might have been exposed to large radiation doses. [...]


            Transcript for Exclusive Arnie Gundersen Interview: The Dangers of Fukushima Are Worse and Longer-lived Than We Think, Chris Martenson, June 3, 2011:
            'Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened'

            General D.Eisenhower


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            • #81
              Disposal of radioactive debris to go ahead

              - "A panel on nuclear waste disposal has decided to allow municipalities to burn highly radioactive debris if they have incinerators that can remove radioactive substances.

              The panel was set up by the environment ministry. Members of the expert panel made the decision on Sunday.

              The ministry measured radioactive substances on debris inside Fukushima Prefecture at collection posts, excluding areas such as those in a 20-kilometer radius no-entry zone. It had already decided to allow 10 municipalities where radiation levels are relatively low to resume usual methods of disposal, such as burning and burying.

              On Sunday the panel discussed ways to dispose of highly radioactive debris in the areas.

              The participants agreed, in principle, to allow municipalities to burn debris highly contaminated with radioactive substances if their incinerators have filters or electric dust cleaners to remove the substances.

              The environment ministry will inform these municipalities of the decision by the end of June, after checking the capabilities of each facility.

              The panel also agreed that the ministry and the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency should measure the radioactivity of debris inside the 20-kilometer radius no-entry-zone and evacuation zones where monitoring has not been conducted."

              Monday, June 06, 2011 05:13 +0900 (JST)

              NHK WORLD English

              Some good reading here - Fukushima: multiple meltdowns

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              • #82
                Another miscalculation...

                Fukushima: Twice As Bad As Thought, Time.com by Eben Harrell Monday, June 6, 2011:770,000 terabecquerels370,000 terabecquerels for the first month of the crisis." [...]

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                • #83
                  3 nuclear reactors melted down after quake, Japan confirms

                  I think this CNN report says it all

                  Tokyo (CNN) -- Japan's Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant experienced full meltdowns at three reactors in the wake of an earthquake and tsunami in March, the country's Nuclear Emergency Response Headquarters said Monday.

                  The nuclear group's new evaluation, released Monday, goes further than previous statements in describing the extent of the damage caused by an earthquake and tsunami on March 11.

                  The announcement will not change plans for how to stabilize the Fukushima Daiichi plant, the agency said.

                  Reactors 1, 2 and 3 experienced a full meltdown, it said.

                  The plant's owner, Tokyo Electric Power Co., admitted last month that nuclear fuel rods in reactors 2 and 3 probably melted during the first week of the nuclear crisis.

                  We 'came close' to losing northern Japan
                  TEPCO admits to more possible meltdowns

                  A "major part" of the fuel rods in reactor No. 2 may have melted and fallen to the bottom of the pressure vessel 101 hours after the earthquake and tsunami that crippled the plant, Tokyo Electric said May 24.

                  The same thing happened within the first 60 hours at reactor No. 3, the company said, in what it called its worst-case scenario analysis, saying the fuel would be sitting at the bottom of the pressure vessel in each reactor building.

                  But Tokyo Electric at the same time released a second possible scenario for reactors 2 and 3, one that estimated a full meltdown did not occur. In that scenario, the company estimated the fuel rods may have broken but may not have completely melted.

                  Temperature data showed the two reactors had cooled substantially in the more than two months since the incident, Tokyo Electric said in May.

                  The earthquake and tsunami knocked out cooling systems at Fukushima Daiichi, causing the three operating reactors to overheat. That compounded a natural disaster by spewing radioactive material into the atmosphere.

                  Tokyo Electric avoided using the term "meltdown," and says it was keeping the remnants of the core cool. But U.S. experts interviewed by CNN after the company's announcement in May said that while it may have been containing the situation, the damage had already been done.

                  "On the basis of what they showed, if there's not fuel left in the core, I don't know what it is other than a complete meltdown," said Gary Was, a University of Michigan nuclear engineering professor and CNN consultant. And given the damage reported at the other units, "It's hard to imagine the scenarios can differ that much for those reactors."

                  A massive hydrogen explosion -- a symptom of the reactor's overheating -- blew the roof off the No. 1 unit the day after the earthquake, and another hydrogen blast ripped apart the No. 3 reactor building two days later. A suspected hydrogen detonation within the No. 2 reactor is believed to have damaged that unit on March 15.

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                  • #84
                    Plutonium found outside Fukushima plant, NHK, June 5, 2011:

                    - "Minute amounts of plutonium have been detected for the first time in soil outside the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant.

                    Shinzo Kimura of Hokkaido University collected the roadside samples in Okumamachi, some 1.7 kilometers west of the front gate of the power station. They were taken during filming by NHK on April 21st [...]

                    The samples of plutonium-239 and 240 make up a total of 0.078 becquerels per kilogram. [...]

                    [M]ost likely to have come from the plant blasts, as their density ratio is different from those detected in the past [from nuclear bombs]." [...]

                    @mbrownn Yes, they are slowly admitting to the facts which were quite obvious couple months ago but either not obvious enough for them or they just didn't want to cause widespread panic. It is all for our own good. Take a deep breath and relax.

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                    'Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened'

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                    • #85
                      Take deeper breaths and filter the contamination out with our lungs. That's what they will tell us next.

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                      • #86
                        Parents urge Tokyo to rethink radiation monitoring, Japan Times, June 8, 2011:
                        Lid of Reactor No. 2′s containment vessel appears to be leaking


                        Japan Concedes Severity of Blast, Wall Street Journal, June 7, 2011:
                        'Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened'

                        General D.Eisenhower


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                        • #87
                          ANOTHER NUKE PLANT: Fukushima Daini has 3,000 tons of radioactive water in reactor bu

                          Fukushima II (Not I) Nuke Plant Wants to Dump 3,000 Tons of Water into the Ocean, EX-SKF, June 7, 2011:

                          - " It has been revealed that TEPCO wants to release about 3,000 tons of water in the reactor buildings (and turbine buildings, according to the news clip at the site) of Fukushima II Nuclear Power Plant. However, fearing the negative effect on marine products, the Ministry of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries is strongly against the plan, making the negotiations between TEPCO and the Ministry difficult. [...]

                          This salt water is estimated to be about 3,000 tons. Since it has been sitting in the basements for long time now, the power supply equipments in the basements may degrade. [...]

                          TEPCO says it will remove the radioactive materials in the water to the level lower than allowed by law before releasing it into the ocean. But the Ministry of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries is strongly against the plan, fearing the effect on the marine products".

                          And what else you forgot to mention?
                          I have 2 more questions:
                          How did this water ended up there in the first place and how did it get contaminated?
                          If it was used for cooling it means that cooling systems failed. Did something melt it by the way? Tiny bit, perhaps totally harmless?

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                          'Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened'

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                          • #88
                            Thousands living outside no-go zone are now packing up and evacuating



                            - "Japan has doubled its estimate of the amount of radiation spewed out by the Fukushima nuclear plant in the week after the crisis began. It comes after confirmation that plutonium has been found outside the facility for the first time.

                            Even before these revelations Japanese authorities were urging residents living just outside the Fukushima no-go zone to leave. Thousands are now packing up and evacuating, fearing radiation in soil and the atmosphere could lead to health problems, especially in children." [...]

                            PM - Heartbreaking evacuations as Fukushima's nuclear fallout spreads 07/06/2011

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                            'Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened'

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                            • #89
                              Video - Breaking News Videos from CNN.com

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                              'Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened'

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                              • #90
                                Omaha Nuclear Plant trouble

                                This isn't Fukushima but related nature so I decided to post in this thread -

                                Electrical Fire Knocks Out Spent Fuel Cooling at Nebraska Nuclear Plant, Scientific American, June 9, 2011:
                                'Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened'

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