Windows 8.1 must die!

[Ruphus]

I HATE WINDOWS 8!

It is obviously made for a tablet. Any type of swipe action on the touch pad mouse of your laptop kicks up the start page in the middle of your work, which caused outbursts of cursing until you find the windows button on the keypad and then click the desktop icon to continue what you never meant to leave! I cant find where to make this insanity stop or where a "classic view" option is. If I wanted a tablet or a mac I would have bought one Bill.

Thanks.

[thx1138]

I HATE WINDOWS 8!

It is obviously made for a tablet. Any type of swipe action on the touch pad mouse of your laptop kicks up the start page in the middle of your work, which caused outbursts of cursing until you find the windows button on the keypad and then click the desktop icon to continue what you never meant to leave! I cant find where to make this insanity stop or where a "classic view" option is. If I wanted a tablet or a mac I would have bought one Bill.

Thanks.

All of these problems can be solved with Windows 7

[sprocket]

All of these problems can be solved with Windows 7

I'm a Linux man and never used Win7 - made the switch from XP in 2006 - but about a year ago, finally decided to check it out. Must say I was underwhelmed. Don't know quite what I was expecting but it certainly didn't live up to all the favourable hype about it I've been reading for years. XP is just as good imo. Linux of course has its problems (Unity, Gnome3 - yuck...) but has loads of alternatives available. Win8 is a bit of a joke from what I've read, a bit like Windows Millennium proved to be - and which Gates finally admitted, but years after it was discontinued. How long will it take him to own up to having given birth to another turkey!

[Ruphus]

I have to agree XP was the best of the 3. I have win 7 on another machine, would still like XP on both but you get what you pay for I suppose.

One other thing that burns me up is Office for win 8.1 I have this card that was supposed to give me office with the computer. You have to login to windows suite online and download it using the code on the card, input all your info and setup an account to their cloud. Ok after about 3 weeks it expires! This isn't a trial either, it says its purchased on my account profile, so then I have to download/activate it again! It works for another 3 weeks then the madness starts again. Just give me a disc Bill.

[mbrownn]

I made the switch from XP to linux 2 years ago, I must admit I found it limited at first because there aren’t all the bells and whistles that you get with windows but it is much faster.

My friend put windows 8 on her laptop and it now takes 20 minutes to boot, It took about 7 before using windows 7. Her laptop is about 2 or 3 years old. I have a laptop and a PC that were both purchased in 2001 and both had XP. I only switched to Linux because the hard drive had become corrupted and I installed a new one. The PC boots in under a minute and the laptop is about 2 minutes using Zorin.

Even with these old machines I can render videos faster than my friends laptop, They crash less and I don’t have to use firewalls and anti-virus.

I consider the downside is that I have to use an old version of skype and google earth but at least they are stable. Some Java applications do not function properly.

[sprocket]

I made the switch from XP to linux 2 years ago, I must admit I found it limited at first because there aren’t all the bells and whistles that you get with windows but it is much faster.

My friend put windows 8 on her laptop and it now takes 20 minutes to boot, It took about 7 before using windows 7. Her laptop is about 2 or 3 years old. I have a laptop and a PC that were both purchased in 2001 and both had XP. I only switched to Linux because the hard drive had become corrupted and I installed a new one. The PC boots in under a minute and the laptop is about 2 minutes using Zorin.

Even with these old machines I can render videos faster than my friends laptop, They crash less and I don’t have to use firewalls and anti-virus.

I consider the downside is that I have to use an old version of skype and google earth but at least they are stable. Some Java applications do not function properly.

The 20min to boot Win8 made me laugh. I have an install of Deepin Linux and actually timed its boot-time today - 25 seconds! This is on a 3-4 year old mini-pc, Intel Atom quad-core - so not fast by any means, although it uses a SSD which may help a bit. My 8 year old laptop (Intel ProDuo) is faster CPU-wise at most stuff, although it takes much longer to boot my really old & no longer supported Ubuntu 10.04.

I installed the then-latest Skype on my VirtualBox'ed XP ages ago and found in boated and ugly in comparison to the Linux Skype - so promptly removed it. It probably has way more features but I had all I needed with the Linux version. Still waiting for the day that M$ will no longer support it.

[mbrownn]

The 20min to boot Win8 made me laugh. I have an install of Deepin Linux and actually timed its boot-time today - 25 seconds! This is on a 3-4 year old mini-pc, Intel Atom quad-core - so not fast by any means, although it uses a SSD which may help a bit. My 8 year old laptop (Intel ProDuo) is faster CPU-wise at most stuff, although it takes much longer to boot my really old & no longer supported Ubuntu 10.04.

I installed the then-latest Skype on my VirtualBox'ed XP ages ago and found in boated and ugly in comparison to the Linux Skype - so promptly removed it. It probably has way more features but I had all I needed with the Linux version. Still waiting for the day that M$ will no longer support it.

I have to agree, whilst the latest windows programs do have lots of bells and whistles they are bloated (with spyware), and hog memory and processing power, so using older software is a good thing. I generally consider new versions of windows as a downgrade.

Microsoft should be broken up just like IG Farben, its programs dissected and the malware included in it exposed. Im sure the basics of the operating system would be sound, its all the spyware operating unseen in the background, plus the massive amount of unneeded stuff that bloats it and slows the whole thing down.

Unlike IG Farben, they should not allow the same people to own and run it as they will continue with their agenda.

i suppose I can say the same of almost all the multinational corporations.

[sprocket]

I have to agree, whilst the latest windows programs do have lots of bells and whistles they are bloated (with spyware), and hog memory and processing power, so using older software is a good thing. I generally consider new versions of windows as a downgrade.

Microsoft should be broken up just like IG Farben, its programs dissected and the malware included in it exposed. Im sure the basics of the operating system would be sound, its all the spyware operating unseen in the background, plus the massive amount of unneeded stuff that bloats it and slows the whole thing down.

Unlike IG Farben, they should not allow the same people to own and run it as they will continue with their agenda.

i suppose I can say the same of almost all the multinational corporations.

Given the recent NSA revelations (probably instigated by the NSA themselves! ) every M$ box should come with a 'NSA-Inside' label, to complement Intel's take on things. It's ironic but not surprising that the NSA themselves don't use Windows for security reasons! I read recently somewhere (probably pure speculation, but maybe not) that every Window's update involves removing old back-doors while adding new ones - keeping the mix fresh basically! I also read that many ATM's use XP and due to M$ now dropping all support for it, will be vulnerable to hacking - serves them right for using XP to begin with. And then there's the latest exploits where 'they' are now rewriting the BIOS itself, so that it's no longer just M$ boxes that are at risk. Hell, security experts have verified that 'someone' has refined the hacking-art to the point that they can now control computers that have no direct connection to a network by hijacking the wireless hardware, and even controlling it ultrasonically over the computers speaker! It's a brave new world we live in...

I don't think breaking up M$ would help. You'd just end up with the same situation as happened in the US when the power companies were broken up.

[mbrownn]

I hear what you are saying

A friend of mine was working on software for ATM machines in the UK when the idea was new. They did not use windows, they used either linux or unix but i cant remember which. My girlfriend at the time was in the IT department of the British national health service and they were the same. Later I worked in a nuclear power plant and we were all amused by the computer room. It had these huge green metal boxes with lights and something that looked like a 12" CD It makes a complete mockery of the stuxnet virus as these computers were incapable of running software as sophisticated as a virus. The software was written specifically for the plant. It would be like trying to get your Pc to talk to a 1960's electric kettle. This was all in the 90's

Of course these days companies do use windows but I bet that nuclear plant is still on the same old system.

I never understood why people wanted such powerful machines to operate as a typewriter, it al seamed a waste, but now I know the whole idea of windows was about spyware.

To see what one of the inventors of antivirus software thinks of it watch the video The McAfee guide to uninstalling McAfee Antivirus | John McAfee