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  • #31
    check this post out : http://www.energeticforum.com/155891-post495.html

    and read this the formulas are there, just have to adapt it

    Helmholtz resonance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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    • #32
      He wants to Charge??

      Slovenia
      I don't understand the "ana 80 is eight times when well done"

      He already gave a cop 12.46?

      Whats this part ana 80.............?

      Since he asked for money ask him if he has one for sale that is setup for europe ?

      Thanks
      Chet
      If you want to Change the world
      BE that change !!

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      • #33


        Tuning fork type piezoelectric resonator

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        Electrically operated tuning fork - Google Patents




        Last edited by MonsieurM; 09-09-2011, 12:39 AM.
        Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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        • #34
          Thanks!!

          Thanks Gordon!!

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          • #35
            Charge

            Hi Chet,

            He doesn't have any for sale, but he does operate one in his house and it's set up for Europe. He's got all those figures worked out already and I could probably get them with not problem.

            P.S.: He misspelled (and) when he said (ana). 80 is eight times when well done I don't understand that.

            Best Regards,
            Slovenia


            Originally posted by RAMSET View Post
            Slovenia
            I don't understand the "ana 80 is eight times when well done"

            He already gave a cop 12.46?

            Whats this part ana 80.............?

            Since he asked for money ask him if he has one for sale that is setup for europe ?

            Thanks
            Chet

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            • #36
              I feel the 400Hz on the iron ring is for over there. ie 50Hz.

              If you were to translate it to 60Hz I think it would be 8*60= 480Hz on the ring

              Also keep in mind that beer cans are probably different.

              We Americans like things fatter
              Europeans have a slimmer/taller can. 355mL (US) vs 330mL (EU)
              Beverage can - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

              If beat freq applies, then the equations

              Freq_beat= Freq2 - Freq1 applies.

              with v = velocity of sound in water ... which is 1497 m/s



              P.S. I don't think Helmholtz applies here. If it does, I have no idea how to calculate that.
              Last edited by eternalightwithin; 09-09-2011, 03:16 AM.

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              • #37
                European Can Size (Thanks)

                Yes, my contact said the diameter of their cans were 2.1mm and that the ring should be slightly larger than that. 2.1mm seems way to small for the diameter of a beer can though. He did state this 2.1mm diameter about three times though, so maybe it is significant.

                Thanks for sharing!!

                Originally posted by eternalightwithin View Post
                I feel the 400Hz on the iron ring is for over there. ie 50Hz.

                If you were to translate it to 60Hz I think it would be 8*60= 480Hz on the ring

                Also keep in mind that beer cans are probably different.

                We Americans like things fatter
                Europeans have a slimmer/taller can. 355mL (US) vs 330mL (EU)
                Beverage can - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                If this is indeed a hemholtz resonator and beat freq applies, then the equations

                Freq_beat= Freq2 - Freq1 and

                Freq2 = (v + v_L) / (v - v_s) * Freq1 applies.

                with v = velocity of sound in water ... which is 1497 m/s

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                • #38
                  2.1 centimeter diameter beer can, perhaps?

                  or he could be referring to the ring being 2.1mm from the beer can.

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                  • #39
                    Can He do a PDF??

                    Slovenia
                    we can get ANYTHING we need here ,The European Beer cans
                    I can get in any Major US city {definately NYC],The European Power ,we can replicate here !

                    Once we see it Makin Bacon we design to our domestic power??


                    COP 12.5 sounds nice...............

                    A European PDF???

                    Chet
                    Last edited by RAMSET; 09-09-2011, 12:02 PM.
                    If you want to Change the world
                    BE that change !!

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                    • #40
                      pdf???

                      My contact doesn't have a pdf file on his device. It seems I may be the first person who has contacted him about his device. He just designed and made his device for himself only but so far has been really good about sharing information about it.

                      I'll see what I can do about getting more specific information on his exact European version.

                      (PDF File)
                      I'll see if he'll provide me with his information for the European version, and if so I'll put together a pdf file of it.


                      Originally posted by RAMSET View Post
                      Slovenia
                      we can get ANYTHING we need here ,The European Beer cans
                      I can get in any Major US city {definately NYC],The European Power ,we can replicate here !

                      Once we see it Makin Bacon we design to our domestic power??


                      COP 12.5 sounds nice...............

                      A European PDF???

                      Chet
                      Last edited by Slovenia; 09-09-2011, 12:54 PM. Reason: Added A Line.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by boguslaw View Post
                        afaik, nobody replicated it. I was also searching for Peter Davey patent application in AU patent office online but they have no online available patents from that period. Sombody from Australia could however check it directly in patent office.
                        It's New Zealand, but we should remember that there is more than
                        one invention. For instance, I am certain that 92428 does not mention
                        tuning the bowls to the frequency of YOUR mains AC. There are other
                        patents or research papers to find.

                        Paul-R

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                        • #42
                          Russian Spec Sonic Boiler

                          I have requested the exact specs for the Russian version of the sonic boiler. We'll wait to see if my contact shares this.

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                          • #43
                            thank you slovenia

                            HEAT/STEAM RESONATOR TEST FOR HOME HEATING BOILER ..STAN MEYER STYL ... - YouTube

                            same principles different application (see previous images )
                            Last edited by MonsieurM; 09-09-2011, 10:54 PM.
                            Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                            • #44
                              Your Welcome!!

                              Your Welcome Gordon!!

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                              • #45
                                Latest Enhanced Diagram European Version of Sonic Boiler

                                Latest Enhanced Diagram European Version of Sonic Boiler

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