Pulse charging Batteries - Conditioning & C.O.P relationship

[Aaron]

@Baroutologos

I cannot show you an electron, but electron micro-scopes work on them.

rather the conflicting theories of Bedini/Bearden that have NO real application and mostly contradict each other.

The miscroscopes "work on them" - yeah right.

Also, their theories don't contradict and you cannot even say that seeing
that you don't even understand what those theories are and have proven
that beyond a shadow of a doubt on multiple occasions so far in this thread.

You say: "I have some partial studies as a Chemical engineer Aaron and i know basic electrochemical effects.
We wish the reality to be like you say, only it IS NOT."

(You say WE as in "us chemists")....

So, put up...

#2 in your own words in maybe one short paragraph, could you spell
out a summary of your interpretation of this fellow chemists speech
and paper? You seem to be hung on on 1 electron in 1 electron out
and if you could really give a concise analysis of the point to this paper,
I'd appreciate it because it will show me your real frame of reference.
I'm not saying it is accurate or not, just that I really have no way of
knowing what it is at this point...

Ilya Prigogine - Nobel Lecture

Direct link to paper:
http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/c...ne-lecture.pdf
PDF format

You refuse to answer this simple question about the work of a another
chemist - why? Because you don't want to self destruct your own
argument? You refuse to deal with reality or the facts. You are more
interested in justifying your flawed experiments and lack of results instead
of actually learning anything.

You discount all of this because of your own lack of results and just
because Eric Dollard disagrees with Bearden and Bedini doesn't really mean
anything. They DO know the difference and over 20 years ago, they are
grasping for a language to describe what they're working with and it should
be common sense for anyone that is claiming to know their theories. Sorry,
you really have no idea and you prove this quite well. When they discuss
scalar waves, they are obviously used in the proper context, which is
self evident what that means.

So, chemist, what is your analysis of Prigogine's Nobel Prize lecture? You
are looking for 1 electron in and 1 electron out but you seem to be
completely unaware of the FACTS that the output is not locked and is
disconnected from the input in these systems. You are using Chinese to
translate Latin, there is no sense to it.

Again, you claim to know BASIC electrochemical processes, what is Prigogine's
Nobel Prize Lecture about? It is possible you are right and he is wrong, but
I think I know where I'll place my bet.

[Schpankme]

So...what is your analysis of Prigogine's Nobel Prize lecture?

This is pure Einstein-Relativistic-Babble; it's time to STOP supporting 90-years of failure and make-believe.

There can be NO Motion in Spacetime, by definition; it doesn't matter how often you lie to yourself or me, it doesn't change that stated fact. Spacetime is a fictitious math construct.

v=dt/dx

v=dt/dt

dt/dt always equals 1 (self-referential)

You are living in the present, you use clocks to tell time, you do NOT live in a time dimension; motion as defined is change in position in a coordinate system.

Schpankme

"If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything." - Mark Twain

[Aaron]

your opinion

Thanks for your OPINION, but that has nothing to do with the point
that I can see that Barout will never get.

[sucahyo]

By the way, the battery is not "filled" by electrons. For each electron going in there is one going out (same balance but diffent arrangement).
And i think is proven beyond doubt that by solo application of pressure(voltage) batteries are not charged. They need electron volume movement plus energy.

Where the energy that crack the acid molecule and stick them to the electrode comes from?

I also just read different explanation at other thread. I think we need a thread specifically for how battery is working to let everyone argue how battery get charged is...

[Aaron]

electrons doing work without dissipation?

So Barout is saying for each electron in an electron goes out.

Yet - the battery gets charged - work was done in heat, separation
of charges, etc... and as many electrons left as went in.

What's wrong with that picture?