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  • Gambeir
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    Well I believe some galactic spirals are visible, but as to whether all of them are visible is doubtful, so I would agree with you on invisible spiral vortex energy fields. Now as to whether they turn or rotate does seem to be a question which I've not found a conclusive answer to either, but I am pretty convinced that our own galaxy, the milky way galaxy, which is a spiral armed galaxy like most are, also does not rotate, or rotates very slowly around the galactic core.

    Supposedly it takes and estimated 260 million years for our own solar system to orbit the Milky Way Galaxy, but our own solar system does not stay with a specific arm of the spiral but instead moves independently of these arms, traveling vast voids and also through and between the mass of matter and plasma which form the galactic arms.

    Now why you should give a damn takes us directly back to this thread and the Alexey replication thread because nothing is forever. Meaning that "if global warming is real," then it has everything to do with the station of our solar system in relation to the cosmos and it's vast energetic clouds of plasma, referred to in less scary terms as "fluff clouds."

    Now don't quote me because I'm flying on memory here, but because we don't have a steering wheel on our Sun our own fate is linked to the blind man at the wheel, and right about now he's steering us in and through what is called a chimney. It's called a chimney because it's a kind of tunnel, so it is a reference to a chimney stack for smoke, and this is because we are going in to another arm of the galaxy which is occupied by a lot of hot gas plasma's. That is to say, we are leaving the relative calm of space between the arms and plowing full steam ahead towards another encounter with the mythical dragon's in the sky which have come down to us in mythological motif's. Right now we have some so called "fluff clouds" on either side. Some several thousands of light years away. I think about 4 thousand light years.

    The reason we have so much hidden history has to do with this understanding of being lost in space. Every so few tens of thousands of years we pass through one of these arms and of course there's a price for doing this, but the Sun really doesn't give a damn what we think, nor do our leaders because they is out to save their own skins.

    So global warming is real, or could be real, or it could also be engineered, or it could also be a criminal construct. Really it's less important what the truth is once you realize your own butt and basic survival is tied to the blind man at the wheel of our own Star because eventually our solar system will plow through some dense plasma cloud, or titanic asteroid cloud, as was apparently the case when the last ice age ended with a huge ass wizbang bombardment of asteroids that left earth a shattered blasted pitted mess with most of life wiped off the face of earth. This is probably when the DNA evidence shows that humanity survived on the tread of 100 to maybe 1,000 surviving individuals.

    Humans have no business being stuck on this planet. To devote our minds and our resources to the insanity of war, of collecting shiny things, and to ignore the reality of this tiny speck of dirt in space is the height of stupidity. Mass extinctions of biblical proportions can come without warning because no one is out there to warn you, and those who could aren't allowed to do so, so once more it's up to us to solve this riddle and to get our species in a position where they at least have potential life boats. Now of course there's way, way, way more to all of this and what I have cobbled together is the result of about 20 years of digging. I wouldn't go running off to find the "official version of your reality unless you really need a safety blanket. The reality is something you have to discover on your own. Nobody is going to tell you the truth. Some will tell you what they think but no one we know has an ARV to go check on the Moon Bases, the Mar's Base, or to fly out in to deep space beyond the protective embryo of our own Star to tell us what lies ahead in the future, but my guess is there is danger ahead and that's why there is a secret civilization, which all can be traced far back to before WWII. In fact some believe, and I don't disagree, that there is a ruling cult which is at least 5,000 years old and possibly more than 12,000 years old. Not only did I myself arrive at the conclusion as many others but it's the same conclusion reached by some of the smartest people I've ever rubbed elbows with or read their own private thoughts or heard their own words. So it's not a wack-0 idea at all. Our survival is up to us and not our leaders. About all they seem useful for is finding ways to kill you and your kids just judging by their war mongering alone.
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  • Bugfly
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    Originally posted by aljhoa View Post
    @ what time a spiral is visible?
    Experiment shows ΔP, i.e. water hammer in action and "circles" is glass.

    Al
    Spiral is invisible. This is just a guess. If we consider other cases, some other phenomena, then there must also be a spiral. This is some analogy with these cases.

    This spiral is also invisible:

    It is present only in computer graphics, but it exists, the stars and planets move along this spiral.

    Look here: https://youtu.be/XJk8ijAUCiI
    Here is a spiral:

    Why ink followed the trajectory of this spiral?
    It's like invisible rails in space.
    They can not be seen, but for some reason the ink moved along them...
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  • aljhoa
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    Originally posted by Bugfly View Post
    Here is a very interesting experiment:
    https://youtu.be/cOeNxkksruo
    A spiral forms here at the bottom of the bottle.
    @ what time a spiral is visible?
    Experiment shows ΔP, i.e. water hammer in action and "circles" is glass.

    Al

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  • Bugfly
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    Originally posted by Gambeir View Post
    Hmm ...computing...
    Well, this is not a simulation. This is computer graphics, yes, but it’s built on measurement data.

    Originally posted by Gambeir View Post
    Hmm ...computing...

    You will want to look at this guys site Bugsfly
    https://holographicgalaxy.blogspot.c...t-powered.html
    This is wrong:

    The spiral should stand still.
    These two toroidal vortexes at the intersection of which it appears, so they rotates, the spiral does not rotates.
    The fact is that this spiral does not actually exist, it is the result of the interaction of two toroidal vortices.
    Here is a very interesting experiment:
    https://youtu.be/cOeNxkksruo
    A spiral forms here at the bottom of the bottle.
    You need a substance on which the two toroids interact, and form this spiral.
    In the alexey's device it is the central disk.
    In this case it is the bottom of the bottle...
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  • Gambeir
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    Hmm ...computing...

    You will want to look at this guys site Bugsfly
    https://holographicgalaxy.blogspot.c...t-powered.html

    A concealed double layered accretion disk. Post 544
    http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...vehicle-7.html

    Also check out post 162 for the Gravity Shielding Experiments of Chris Hardeman (Source Link)
    The Gravity Shielding Experiment from Chris Hardeman

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  • Gambeir
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    Originally posted by bistander View Post
    Impressive. About the same energy as a cell phone battery.
    Bystander you know your stuff, truly you do, you have so much inside to give. This is a very odd way of stating the Joule's of energy:"6.3 times 10 to the 4th power of Joules."
    Expression 10^4=10,000 joules. So 6.3 times 10^4 = 63,000 joules =3.932151 electron volts: About 4 volts. BTW Wheeler said it doesn't take much energy and evidently he
    is right about that.


    This is what caught my eye.

    "Gravity can be regionally modified around an object. The gravity force, on an object, can be modified through the specific use of electromagnetism. A mass is placed in a uniform magnetic field, and exposed to pulsed, high frequency microwaves, specifically tuned. The atoms in the mass, realign their nuclear spin orientations. This directly affects the symmetry of the mass gravity field. The mass can lose or gain weight. The gravitational change occurs during electron/nuclear orientation and disorientation transition."


    Electrogravity
    http://www.electrogravity.com/AVCFor...fugalForce.pdf

    http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...vehicle-6.html
    The Gravity Shielding Experiment from Chris Hardeman

    Counterspace (as I now understand it) is the in-coherent energy of Universe. Whereas mass inside a uniform magnetic field & subjected to an apparently localized in-coherent energy field produces gravitational effects. Not sure I've got that right but this is what I'm gathering right now.

    * Seem's we have it half right: You have to have pulsed HF energy (resonace or in-coherence?) and you have to have a uniform magnetic field surrounding the mass. Bugsfly say's in his post that I'm full of crap and suggests that it will work either way; which is an interesting proposition. Might be time to revisit the Burbury Crop Circle drawing once more and compare to Hardeman's Experimental set up: Obviously needs a magnetic field. Maybe a spinning magnetic plate in the center along with pulsed microwave discharges instead of a steady bombardment.
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  • Bugfly
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    ++++
    I would like to add about this Alexey's video
    https://youtu.be/2JrkOfqm6eY?t=1745
    29:05 -
    There we see this picture

    Alexis explanation is of course like a crap, don't even mention them. But look at the shape. These are two toroidal vortexes, and they both rub the central disk. Just like the millstones that I mentioned earlier. And look at the electric field passes from the top disk to the bottom, it is like a central magnet in this device:

    Just the device from the picture works on magnetic and Alexey's device works on electric field. You see the similarities?
    I want to say that the matter is not in electric or magnetic fields, it can work on both, it is a matter of geometry. Forget the fields, let the air flow through the desired trachetorium instead of the fields and and you get a tornado.
    Now look here:

    These are our two toroidal vortexes and a central disk between them.
    What we have on the disk?
    We have this:

    Yes, it is almost Tesla coil.
    And where is our central magnet?
    Here it comes from the center a blue fountain:

    It is geometry, it’s only about geometry...
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  • bistander
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    Energy

    Originally posted by Gambeir View Post
    ...
    Iron is embedded in the aluminum, and mixed to make it operational at a higher melting temperature. The ratio of iron to aluminum is 1 to 10. There is 6.3 times 10 to the 4th power of Joules of gravitational energy at the Earth's surface. Substantial gravitational attraction can be removed in several seconds."
    Impressive. About the same energy as a cell phone battery.

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  • Gambeir
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    Keep the interplay in mind because field dynamics appear to hold the explanations for observed phenomena. To quote Bugsfly; "All that could be done was already done.Will anybody see; that is the question. Alexey Chekurkov’s Flying Discs and fields at 90 degrees."



    Field Dynamics
    Dielectric Phenomena

    "Phenomena associated with dielectrophoresis are electrorotation and traveling wave dielectrophoresis (TWDEP)."

    Post 68 by Phoneboy
    http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...cations-3.html
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dielectrophoresis

    Aljhoa post 596 in this thread.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg4EX7g2b8U

    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Rotational vectors and interplay between electrical rotating fields/magnetic fields.

    All these need to be seen in the light of a larger picture delivered by Bugsfly's presentation of vortex ring simulations.


    Interview with James E. Cox by sinergicus
    James E. Cox on Inertial Propulsion

    Jerry Bayles
    http://www.electrogravity.com/AVCFor...fugalForce.pdf

    W. J. Hooper (Spacecase0)
    http://www.rexresearch.com/hooper/NewHorizons.pdf

    Observe here this image pulled from the Magvid PDF
    http://www.energeticforum.com/member...-annotated.jpg

    Mathias Bage;:Magvid, Alternatively known as the MBD (Mathias Bage Device) http://blog.lege.net/Mathias_Bage/GL...-annotated.pdf
    Reposted here by Spacecase0

    Vortex Ring Collisons by Bugsfly
    __________________________________________________ ______

    *Pay Attention: Vortex Ring Collisions
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJk8...ature=youtu.be

    Two Vortex Rings Colliding in SLOW MOTION - Smarter Every Day 195
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVbd...ature=youtu.be


    aljhoa post #85 http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...cations-3.html
    "Lift" = ∆Psuper-fluid
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  • Gambeir
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    Originally posted by sinergicus View Post
    Hey guys did somebody heard about David Alzofon technology? This guy s father found a way to control gravity and he made his informations public...emediapress selling some conference with this guy Gravity Control with Present Technology by David Alzofon but also I found an you tube channel presenting his writings and theories ;I understand his theories was experimented successfully in labs some years ago... maybe his teachings will help us to understand a little more about gravity control technology ...
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCo3...XhymhzrwSkaqJA
    Thanks for the links. I'm looking this material over.
    * Review
    http://www.utahspace.org/special/alzofon.html

    Cell towers & the coming rapture, aka, lost in space, or how to remove useless eaters once their useful purpose if fulfilled: As I've said previously there is a motif which has circulated of people tied to ropes floating, or in the case of Google just floating up in to the sky, now just imagine if this took place instead with the same observed speed of the vanishing act commonly seen in UFO's and Black Triangles: One second they are there and the next who knows where they went huh? I'm telling you there's more afoot there with these high frequency cell phone plans than people imagine. Course could have really long term objectives such as a totalitarian control system where you do what you're told or else you disappear.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapture
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Leftovers_(TV_series)
    Stephen King book Cell, where people start flying
    Google Doodles & they have a lot of these sorts of space related ones as well.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/gifs/commen...e_the_rapture/
    https://www.google.com/doodles/sally...birthday?hl=ja


    * Comment: Einsteinian Physics is a controllable form of explaining how things work. Awareness of how things might otherwise work, aka; mind control achieved by a belief in understanding the totality of a system through a belief in the correctness of assumptions validated through other systems.

    "REVIEW OF THE WORK OF DR. FREDERICK E. ALZOFON"
    "By J. David Baxter"
    The following article is based on an article in the Jan./Feb/Mar, published October 12, 1994 issue 13, of Electric Spacecraft Journal, and was compiled and reviewed by editor Charles Yost.

    "Gravity can be regionally modified around an object. The gravity force, on an object, can be modified through the specific use of electromagnetism. A mass is placed in a uniform magnetic field, and exposed to pulsed, high frequency microwaves, specifically tuned. The atoms in the mass, realign their nuclear spin orientations. This directly affects the symmetry of the mass gravity field. The mass can lose or gain weight. The gravitational change occurs during electron/nuclear orientation and disorientation transition.

    This involves a pulsed dynamic nuclear orientation, with a net magnetic moment. The magnetic field is constant. A greater reduction on Earth's gravitational reduction, on the mass, occurs with driven orientations. The best element to use is a pure isotope of aluminum. The pulsed electric field, in a constant magnetic field, operates at the Larmor frequency. The process involves a microwave source, FM detector, connected to a lock-in amplifier, and a modulation generator.

    The orientation of the aluminum nuclei has a much longer lifetime then its thermal decay. With the creation-annihilation cloud, generated by the Earth, and disorienting of the mass nuclei, occurs at the expense of the mean disordered motion of this cloud. Too fast a flipping of dynamic nuclear orientation, would increase a gravitational field. Although, in outer space, the field could be coupled, to a distant gravitational source, and used for propulsion. Radiation fluctuates in intensity on a subatomic scale.

    The observed speed of light is an average of many fluctuation processes. These are random fluctuations. There is no sharp division between field and particle. Matter-energy to one particle is transferred to a second particle. At a fixed magnetic field of 660 Oe, a pulsed oscillation can be applied at 3000 MHz. The pulses of the oscillating field for 2 microseconds, with a duty cycle from 2 to 6 milliseconds.

    Iron is embedded in the aluminum, and mixed to make it operational at a higher melting temperature. The ratio of iron to aluminum is 1 to 10. There is 6.3 times 10 to the 4th power of Joules of gravitational energy at the Earth's surface. Substantial gravitational attraction can be removed in several seconds."
    Cut & Pasted from the Source Below.
    http://www.utahspace.org/special/alzofon.html
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  • Bugfly
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    Now I am only analyzing the possibilities. Ideally, I would like to find the physical effect of current rectification in the secondary winding of the tesla coil. We all know about the currents in closed circuits, because science has been dealing with them all the time. But seriously nobody at all dealt with open circuits. Except Tesla of course. There should be an easier way from the secondary winding side of the tesla coil, we just don't know it yet...
    And if we find it, then Alexey Chekurkov’s Flying Discs will fly, like "Götterdämmerung" in "Iron Sky"!
    https://youtu.be/4vBtxowhKlg
    https://youtu.be/HjQgn-pE5IE
    Just kidding
    But seriously we need just an efficient statics provider.

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  • spacecase0
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    your picture is now correct,

    the inductors will ring to some degree,
    but if you set up the spark gap, your coil, and your capacitor correct, you can get the current to only flow one direction.
    (you might want to look up snubber circuits)
    but,
    it is way easier to do it the modern way with an arbitrary waveform generator, just set the waveform you want, and connect a power amplifier.

    remember that tesla used a magnetically quenched spark gap.
    he did this so that when current started to flow, it would open.
    so the waveform might not be quite what you found on the web for waveform.

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  • Bugfly
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    Originally posted by spacecase0 View Post
    I like your pictures...
    Thanks!
    Originally posted by spacecase0 View Post
    you left out the spark gap and capacitor feeding the primary
    (the primary on the right half of the schematic if there was some confusion)
    Well, I think I got it, I hope this is right:

    Originally posted by spacecase0 View Post
    the power was DC through a spark gap, so it was pulsing DC
    modern physics says that there is no change of AC or pulsing DC by the time you get to the output of a transformer.
    turns out they missed something there (at least if the rise time is fast enough on the pulsing DC)
    Pooh! I already thought that the world has changed.
    I want to explain to all if it is not clear...
    The current that comes out of the sparking gap and capacitor is alternating.
    It is not so correct, I mean it is not in the form of a symmetrical sine wave, but it is alternating this is for sure. Something similar happening in Induction coils.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induction_coil

    Without capacitor

    With capacitor
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  • spacecase0
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    I like your pictures, you got it mostly right
    you left out the spark gap and capacitor feeding the primary
    (the primary on the right half of the schematic if there was some confusion)

    the reason he built it like that is diodes were not a thing back then
    next of all, it is more power than even modern diodes can deal with in any sort of affordable way

    the power was DC through a spark gap, so it was pulsing DC
    modern physics says that there is no change of AC or pulsing DC by the time you get to the output of a transformer.
    turns out they missed something there (at least if the rise time is fast enough on the pulsing DC)

    and kind of a side note,
    I really don't think the feed voltage to Colorado springs was 110V,
    was likely something much higher
    even my wall voltage is 240V at the power pole
    if I remember correct, he was running something like 50KW,
    he blacked out the entire city when he first fired it up...
    at 110V that would be way to much current to transport any distance at all
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  • Bugfly
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    Originally posted by spacecase0 View Post
    Bugfly,

    one more thing,
    you show the source of power an AC sine wave
    if you are looking for the effect that tesla was first playing with,
    you are going to need DC, and it will be more of a triangle wave with a very sharp leading edge and the current never going backward.
    tesla got the DC power by first using AC power through a transformer to up the voltage to something like 50KV, then put it through a rotary switch run by a synchronous AC motor. The result was 50KV DC at very high power levels.
    this step of converting to DC before the spark gap is what modern people get wrong when trying to reproduce what tesla was doing.
    spacecase0, You mean something like this:

    Interesting way of rectifying the current.
    And this is strange... Tesla Coil powered by DC current. Is it really works? I am just asking. I have no deal with Tesla coils, I mean I do not make it by myself and that is why I do not know all features. I think as usual that the Trsla Coil is some kind of transformer, but strange transformer of course, whith open secondary circuit. Anyway transformers do not work on DC current only on Alternating current. So Tesla Coil could powered by DC current?

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