Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

An Inquiry in to the Alien Reproduction Vehicle

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Gambeir
    replied
    Originally posted by aljhoa View Post
    300?cb=20140925070137.jpg
    Leviathans were regarded as amazing and wonderful creatures,
    in that they were bio-mechanoid ships that could move freely among the stars.

    Al
    You should know since you're the one that gave me the link to the Carlos Diaz Experience.

    Yes, it's one or the other, but biological in nature. If it's just a brainless space jellyfish then it's not something to be approached. Such a creature may then also explain why aircrew's whom fired on these in World War II, and who knows where else, reported their weapons had no effect. A critter like this would undoubtedly have some sort of self sealing ability due to micro meteorite strikes as a an adaptation for space based life.

    See, if the powers that be were to admit that such life existed then what would that do to the existing official narrative about the nature of gravity? What would that do the education system? That would be a disaster.

    However, what you say rings true for a variety of reasons. No machine will ever be the equal of a biological life form. If that were the case then nature would have developed one. It is as simple as that, and that's also why the AI narrative is a red herring, and the borg narrative is the reality, which in the scope of long range planning probably has a great deal to do with missing people.
    Last edited by Gambeir; Yesterday, 09:04 PM.

    Leave a comment:


  • Gambeir
    replied
    Originally posted by Sputins View Post


    Sky Creatures: Living UFO’s -Trevor James Constable brought forward sound evidence of strange things in our skies captured on infrared film as early as the 1950's. “Rods” – Strange bio-plasmaic lifeforms and other unknown transparent or invisible ethereal like lifeforms existing in our upper atmosphere and even beyond into space perhaps. Seems strange and weird, but it’s conceivable that these things exist, perhaps even as interstellar amoeba or jellyfish type of concept. – Similar to looking at pond water or a bio-sample under a microscope, there’s all these odd things swimming around. But perhaps mainly invisible via our small visible light spectrum that we see. Perhaps the're not even solid matter as we know it. Semi-solid matter if that makes sense?

    So I suppose there should be a distinction or classification between some kind of bio-creature UFO and what we would say is a nuts and bolts type of mechanical system for gravity defiance.
    With the bio-form, unless we can catch one and put a saddle on it and take a ride, we are probably stuck with the mechanical form of craft. But that isn’t to say that the bio-forms couldn’t teach us how they operate and manipulate or cohere the media they are swimming in, for us to attempt to replicate with an electro-mechanical machine...
    It is possible that the story really began with recovery of one of these creatures. I can see that as a real possibility, but if so it happened a very long time ago, before the turn of the last century, before World War One, and which drove the subsequent scientific efforts, and which can be traced historically. This all began in earnest before the turn of the last century, and near as I can tell it began with Rutherford and Kapitza's work to create liquid helium in an effort to understand the true nature of our physical universe. All of which had to be kept hidden. To admit that we puny humans were so tiny and so insignificant in the vast cosmos that we existed as microbes comparatively speaking would have destroyed the foundations of political and religious mind control.

    Whatever the cause there is no doubt in my mind that the work to physically understand the Aether began before World War One. It's also very clear to me that this understanding mirrored what Ken Wheel has today put in public and that the Einsteinian narrative is a warped weaponized false narrative specifically because there was no other option for the rulers. They cannot ever admit that a living creature was responsible for any observed phenomena simply because that would then require a real explanation of how such an animal could be, and that's not even considering the effect it would have on organized religion and political power structures. Nevertheless, it is a critter and not a machine and really it's time for humanity to grow up and deal with what and where they are in the cosmos.

    There are accounts of people encountering what they themselves described as sky creatures. I'm sure most of them have been surgically excised as much as possible but a few survive. I think there's one on amasci.com.

    There is an account from the 1920's/30's of a Barnstormer having an experience with a sky creature. In the account the barnstromer's plane developed a misfire and the pilot set down on top of Mesa some where in the Arizona or New Mexico area. He reported that while working on the motor a creature, resembling a blob, fell to the ground near the aircraft which he reported appeared to have a chunk missing out of it. He also said it had two eyes. He then reported that a large shadow came over him and he looked up to see a similar creature but this one being much larger around 30 to 40 feet in diameter, and that he then took cover under the aircraft whereupon the larger animal landed on top of the smaller one and apparently absorbed or ate it and then took off at a high rate of speed.

    Point is there are accounts and it's possible or likely that what prompted the efforts of Ernest Rutherford and Kapitsa to develop isotopes of liquid helium are directly related to such stories, or possibly even a recoved body of a creature, but whatever the motivation the real work to understand the structure of the Aether begins with a realization that the Aether was something akin to a fluid, and which seems incorporeal not unlike magnetism is incorporeal, and the closest thing we know of that's similar is an isotope of liquid helium, which didn't exist till the late 1930's, but Ernest Rutherford and Pyotr Leonidovich Kapitsa (Peter Kapitsa) worked co-jointly over the life time of Rutherford on this issue. Rutherford of course is known primarily for the first model of the Atom, but he passed before success in developing isotopes of helium and the work was carried on by his associates working along side Kapitsa, even though Kapitza was forbidden from leaving Stalin's Russia the work continued cooperatively. This all began before the First World War and isotopes of helium were successfully developed before World War II. So underneath the fabric of the historical narrative of the Rutherford's model of the atom is another story which is really about the scientific attempt to unravel the mystery of the superfluidity of the Aether.

    In thinking about the whole of where we are now in this inquiry I'm reminded of the Bitter Solenoid, a liquid cooled super magnet, with many interesting variants.

    In the photo's of the sky creature you can see that there are dark spots. We know that those are the result of a magnetic vortex going down to a focal point as shown by a ferrocell lens when looking a magnet. The only apparent difference is that unlike a magnet there is no recycling of the dielectric field. The light generated by the creature must be because it is, by one means or another, spinning up a coherent magnetic field accretion disk, just as Ken shows in his very first video ever, and this spinning up of the plane of induction in a magnet takes place when a magnet is accelerated, so spinning or rotating a magnet makes the dielectric plane of inertia spin up, and when that plane spins up it begins pulling in the surrounding in-coherent dielectric field, a field which is all around us.

    Logically one would think that control over the size of the exit, which is now the centrifugal vortex (the dark spots), is what regulates the whole of the rest of the other features we see, such as light which is produced when this induced incoherent dielectric field is piling up. This is just like putting more electricity in to a light bulb in simple terms because the vortex opening is acting as a de-facto control gate to regulate the rate of loss back to the same incoherent field. I hope that makes some sense. I don't think it's extremely complex conceptually. This explanation makes more sense to me because of the way the lights behave pulsating and so forth, like power surges might due, but in this case it's caused by there being a regulation upon the exiting of the dielectric field back to the surrounding space.

    The only apparent difference between whether there is the production of weight in a mass seems to have to do with whether or not there is a sufficient vibratory input, or frequency, and which apparently prevents the inducted surrounding incoherent dielectric field from forming and becoming a coherent field. The coherent field is magnetism and incoherent, though magnetic, does not become magnetic if that makes any sense. Need Wheeler himself at this point quite frankly.

    See inducting the surrounding incoherent is no problem. You just accelerate a magnet (one way or the other) and it's own plane of inertial induction will begin sucking in the surrounding incoherent field because that's what does even when standing still, and what makes it a magnet is that the incoherent field slows down and becomes coherent, which is probably more comprehensible by saying something meaningless like the waves get longer because they start connecting to each other in this slowed condition. Whatever really is happening is that the end result is you get a magnetic field because of the slowed state of the induced incoherent dielectric field. So now you apparently need an means to cast off the whole of this coherent field, which you do forming a vortex by using the coherent magnetic field producing a centrifugal vortex just like a magnet has normally when standing still, only here the vortex exits back in to space via a vacuum most likely, and while being subjected to a high frequency so as to break up or grind up the whole coherent field so that it will freely exit back to the surrounding incoherent field around it. This is just like the black hole seen in a magnet when viewed with a ferrocell lens, only the end point of that vortex must be in a vacuum and it must be vibrating at a high rate to create an incoherent field at that point, and from there logically it all flows back to the surrounding incoherent space all around us.

    Getting a little tired here so God knows what this will look like next AM but I'm hopeful I am explaining this clearly enough. It's conjecture obviously but good conjecture I think.

    See, aluminum does this, it acts like it was a piezoelectric when electrified, so a high frequency charge should be making it behave like a grinder of sorts, preventing the slowed incoherent from becoming coherent, and that evidently is a key to understanding how to prevent or regulate the electromagnetic retardation which produces weight in mass. Hope this helps a little. There's more but really it's going to take physical testing to validate but I think on the whole these are logical conjectures which can be verified by testing. Everything else is mechanical, a rotating magnetic field, either inside or outside a vacuum tube and so on.
    Last edited by Gambeir; Yesterday, 11:29 AM.

    Leave a comment:


  • Sputins
    replied
    Originally posted by Gambeir View Post
    Nature is and probably always will be humankind's first teacher.
    In the Video; "Ships of Light: The Carlos Diaz Experience," what you are seeing is a living creature and not a mechanical machine, and it is to me factually alarming to have some comprehension of what I'm looking at in that video and then hear or read the comments and thoughts of others, whose gross inaccuracies arise out of the ethos of the alien's from space; a counter intelligence operation that we have all lived with now for at least the last 100 years, and which gives people such ideas as angels and or alien space ships, instead of the much more probable, which is that it is a living creature, one much more akin to an amoeba.

    Do I need to then add that a brainless absorbing mass of phytoplankton may ...may...be an extremely dangerous critter? Discounting such things as disease based life forms, do you know what animal kills the most humans every year is? Well it's a jellyfish and you're probably looking at something which is lot like a jellyfish, more like a cross between a Jellyfish, such as a Portuguese man o' war, a Cuttlefish, an electric eel, and possibly a stingray. This creature seems to have characteristics of those creatures, but it is probably not very intelligent, if it has any brains at all, and it would be understandably fool hardy to go near one if you actually understood what you were dealing with.

    The purposefully misguided misunderstandings are the greatest crimes of a completely corrupted system hiding behind a veil of national security. We wouldn't want to create a panic. No, it's better if some poor lost soul, misguided and misinformed, becomes part of the galactic food chain: Right?

    A gigantic space faring amoeba makes sense when put in the context of a Universe composed of a superfluid substance: Which as long time readers know, the origins of the research in to gravity begins with a drive to create superfluids (Rutherford & Kapitza). The physical observation of this creature and the photographs are prima facie evidence supporting the theory that a superfluidity of unknown substance is the amniotic fluid which fills the Universe, and which is hyperspatially moving at a hypervelocity, and which this creature is part of. Obviously, like all living creatures it has exploited the available space in nature.

    Everything in those photographs screams living creature and everything in the pictures screams out to validate Wheeler's dielectric field theory. The dark spots on the creatures body and it's glowing mass are indicative of what we now understand about how weight in mass is created and how it's possible to dispose of the inducted weight, and beyond that, the nearly magical like quality of being able to move at fantastic speeds and or to become invisible to the human eye. These are now all comprehensible to those familiar with Wheeler's theory.

    At this point we cannot say that this is an alien because it could very well have developed here on Earth. It unquestionably is here and unquestionably is potentially dangerous, as exhibited by the cattle mutilations. I wouldn't want to create a panic but what else are we not being told? We aren't being told what it is because that would then require an explanation of how it works. Hence you as a disposable life for the benefit of a few whom are making artificial space amoeba's and probably right now crossing the galaxy to other worlds.

    Now that you have that concept going on maybe...maybe some of my previous comments about abducted people might make more sense.
    We have absolutely no idea what these people are doing, but given the history of mankind it's not hard to imagine, especially considering the apparent origins of the man made version of a space amoeba. Hope for the best but prepare for the worst because where in history have we ever found unrestricted authority and power creating a utopia; as opposed to hell incarnate.

    Sky Creatures: Living UFO’s -Trevor James Constable brought forward sound evidence of strange things in our skies captured on infrared film as early as the 1950's. “Rods” – Strange bio-plasmaic lifeforms and other unknown transparent or invisible ethereal like lifeforms existing in our upper atmosphere and even beyond into space perhaps. Seems strange and weird, but it’s conceivable that these things exist, perhaps even as interstellar amoeba or jellyfish type of concept. – Similar to looking at pond water or a bio-sample under a microscope, there’s all these odd things swimming around. But perhaps mainly invisible via our small visible light spectrum that we see. Perhaps the're not even solid matter as we know it. Semi-solid matter if that makes sense?

    So I suppose there should be a distinction or classification between some kind of bio-creature UFO and what we would say is a nuts and bolts type of mechanical system for gravity defiance.
    With the bio-form, unless we can catch one and put a saddle on it and take a ride, we are probably stuck with the mechanical form of craft. But that isn’t to say that the bio-forms couldn’t teach us how they operate and manipulate or cohere the media they are swimming in, for us to attempt to replicate with an electro-mechanical machine...
    Last edited by Sputins; Yesterday, 05:51 AM.

    Leave a comment:


  • aljhoa
    replied
    300?cb=20140925070137.jpg
    Leviathans were regarded as amazing and wonderful creatures,
    in that they were bio-mechanoid ships that could move freely among the stars.

    Al

    Leave a comment:


  • Gambeir
    replied
    Nature is and probably always will be humankind's first teacher.
    In the Video; "Ships of Light: The Carlos Diaz Experience," what you are seeing is a living creature and not a mechanical machine, and it is to me factually alarming to have some comprehension of what I'm looking at in that video and then hear or read the comments and thoughts of others, whose gross inaccuracies arise out of the ethos of the alien's from space; a counter intelligence operation that we have all lived with now for at least the last 100 years, and which gives people such ideas as angels and or alien space ships, instead of the much more probable, which is that it is a living creature, one much more akin to an amoeba.

    Do I need to then add that a brainless absorbing mass of phytoplankton may ...may...be an extremely dangerous critter? Discounting such things as disease based life forms, do you know what animal kills the most humans every year is? Well it's a jellyfish and you're probably looking at something which is lot like a jellyfish, more like a cross between a Jellyfish, such as a Portuguese man o' war, a Cuttlefish, an electric eel, and possibly a stingray. This creature seems to have characteristics of those creatures, but it is probably not very intelligent, if it has any brains at all, and it would be understandably fool hardy to go near one if you actually understood what you were dealing with.

    The purposefully misguided misunderstandings are the greatest crimes of a completely corrupted system hiding behind a veil of national security. We wouldn't want to create a panic. No, it's better if some poor lost soul, misguided and misinformed, becomes part of the galactic food chain: Right?

    A gigantic space faring amoeba makes sense when put in the context of a Universe composed of a superfluid substance: Which as long time readers know, the origins of the research in to gravity begins with a drive to create superfluids (Rutherford & Kapitza). The physical observation of this creature and the photographs are prima facie evidence supporting the theory that a superfluidity of unknown substance is the amniotic fluid which fills the Universe, and which is hyperspatially moving at a hypervelocity, and which this creature is part of. Obviously, like all living creatures it has exploited the available space in nature.

    Everything in those photographs screams living creature and everything in the pictures screams out to validate Wheeler's dielectric field theory. The dark spots on the creatures body and it's glowing mass are indicative of what we now understand about how weight in mass is created and how it's possible to dispose of the inducted weight, and beyond that, the nearly magical like quality of being able to move at fantastic speeds and or to become invisible to the human eye. These are now all comprehensible to those familiar with Wheeler's theory.

    At this point we cannot say that this is an alien because it could very well have developed here on Earth. It unquestionably is here and unquestionably is potentially dangerous, as exhibited by the cattle mutilations. I wouldn't want to create a panic but what else are we not being told? We aren't being told what it is because that would then require an explanation of how it works. Hence you as a disposable life for the benefit of a few whom are making artificial space amoeba's and probably right now crossing the galaxy to other worlds.

    Now that you have that concept going on maybe...maybe some of my previous comments about abducted people might make more sense.
    We have absolutely no idea what these people are doing, but given the history of mankind it's not hard to imagine, especially considering the apparent origins of the man made version of a space amoeba. Hope for the best but prepare for the worst because where in history have we ever found unrestricted authority and power creating a utopia; as opposed to hell incarnate.
    Last edited by Gambeir; 09-27-2020, 11:29 PM.

    Leave a comment:


  • Gambeir
    replied
    I'm hopeful that this somewhat clumsy attempt to explain what I see going on with the Schumann Levitator and the similarity it has to the Joe Cell is comprehensible to those whom are familiar with Ken Wheeler's theory of magnetism. If I recall correctly, Ken says, the magnetic field is formed in to a coherent dielectric field because perturbance 's slow the incoherent dielectric field. Bugsfly was sure that in the Alexey Device there was a grinder type action going on. Too bad I couldn't understand what he saw, and that I didn't see at that time, but he is right about that. The Alexey may in fact be doing exactly that and little else with the whole arrangement.

    The Schumann Levitator is truly a brilliant design as the whole contraption might be made completely mechanical. Conceptually, if I've correctly deduced it's operation, this is a device which could conceivably be constructed in the middle ages. So much for my modest imagination thinking that 1930 was on the outside.

    In the attached image above from the bundwer archives you can see that these hat box levitators are attached to a round plate. Evidently they had some notions about directional control being achieved by rotating the whole configuration. Not too sure about that concept but they are placed in the planes of dielectric induction as shown and proven by Ken in his video series on magnetism. Now the Vril Odin is seen in one image, I think it's Odin, and with what also appears to be glowing light beneath it. Now originally I chalked that up to probable messing around with artistic license out of control, but in retrospect that process is exactly what one would expect to take place as the incoherent dielectric field begins piling up brought upon by the inductive processes of the levitator design.
    Outside Image links:
    http://discaircraft.greyfalcon.us/BU...UGSCHEIBEN.htm
    http://dilemma.cocolog-nifty.com/pho.../31/foo2_2.jpg
    https://image.space.rakuten.co.jp/d/....85.2.9.2.jpeg
    Last edited by Gambeir; 09-27-2020, 05:09 AM.

    Leave a comment:


  • Gambeir
    replied
    Thank you Sputins: You answered the call
    See if this makes sense to you. Tried to be clear.



    (* Not ships but creatures: Amoeba)
    Ships of Light The Carlos Diaz UFO Experience Part 1
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRRVfeNj1pk
    1983 Cattle Abduction

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvANSlq3Yjs


    Light is produced when the surrounding incoherent dielectric field is inducted in to a mass. Without a means for the inducted dielectric to escape the result is light and heat. *Note; the human body has a cell which vibrates at "billions of times per second."
    * Keep in mind the difference between Coherent & Incoherent in the following.
    When/where there is a pathway (*a vacuum) for the incoherent the result is darkness. Examine the Sky Creatures in the video.

    Induction takes place via some means; one example is apparently by use of a high frequency vibration co-joined with a rotating magnetic field. A high frequency vibration, along with a rotational magnetic field, together forms the basis for a centrifugal coherent dielectric vortex that together forms an accretion disk.

    This process of vibration and rotating magnetism acts to collect the surrounding incoherent dielectric field and forms the basis for an accretion disk which is itself then composed primarily of the incoherent dielectric field. The basis of the accretion disk is frequency of vibrations paired with coherent dielectric (magnetic) rotational field velocity. *Note: the magnetic induction can be linear or other means. Rotation is not an absolute requirement, and it's worth noting that it is probable that a rotational accretion disk of this nature may continue to grow in size and velocity if sustained and then become self propelling; further, that there is essentially no logical reason to think that such events may not take place in nature. An example being a galactic jet.

    In an artificially produced coherent dielectric vortex (magnetic field vortex) the end point of the vortex of the dielectric should (*probably) not result in the production of a coherent magnetic field if the vortex is one composed of high frequency vibrations, which is not the case found in a magnet, and if end point of the centrifugal vortex does have a location in a vacuum, as is the case of galactic jet in space.

    The vertex point of the rotational coherence should instead create a path for the inducted dielectric field to flow back into the surrounding dielectric field via a vacuum, and with the use of high frequency vibrations preventing the formation of coherence typical of magnetism. This effectively means that the electromagnetic circuit is cut such that no electromagnetic retardation takes place.

    A comparative analogy would be similar to the so called Eddy Current Experiment which depicts the production of so-called eddy currents by dropping a magnet down a copper tube. In fact this is actually a demonstration of the production of weight in mass as a product of electromagnetic retardation. If one cuts a slot down the length of the same copper tube then the cut breaks the circuit and no electromagnetic retardation takes place.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertex_(geometry)

    A Joe Cell could understandably produce such a result. More likely such an effect would take place if the cell had a purpose driven rotating magnetic field. The key here is two fold, a frequency of vibratory input prevents the inducted incoherent dielectric field from forming coherence and thus creating a coherence which we know as magnetism, and which then results in self cycling and hence weight in mass, and the production of bubbles (vacuum) produces a de~facto slot in the copper tube, so to speak, which creates the path back to the incoherent dielectric field. This cut's the circuit and prevents electromagnetic retardation: The combination of high frequency vibrations, together with a focus point (vertex) of a centrifugal rotational in a vacuum allows a path back to the incoherent dielectric field.

    The Joe Cell is very close to the Schumann Levitator design and is almost a dead ringer for the hat box like arrangement seen in what is very likely a photo of a mock-up 2nd gen Vril Saucer using a tripod arrangement of hat box's instead of spherical balls as depicted in the double hulled Schumann Levitator design.

    ufotypes2Flying Disc of the Bundeswehr .jpg
    Last edited by Gambeir; 09-26-2020, 06:56 PM.

    Leave a comment:


  • Sputins
    replied
    Originally posted by Gambeir View Post

    Think about the Earth which is 75% water, almost all of which is salt water, electrically/magnetically reactive, or magneto~hydro~electric and the earth of course has a resonance, the Schumman Resonance, and it has a tilt caused by magnetic precession due to the magnetic field (see Wheelers' video on magnetic precession). So anyways, what keeps water stuck to earth is basically the bottom line. We are ourselves of course mostly salt water. Then there's the UFO's and Water. So water, esp salt water is or was an early way to induct the dielectric field. It's a dielectric but with salt it becomes magnetically electrically reactive, and that combined with rotation & Vibratory amplification produces a false mass, or source point of a false non-existing mass; cavitation (star in a jar concept) become's the key enabling feature of this design along with the fact that the rotating fluid is carrying a magnetic field, thereby speeding up the accretion disk's of all those spinning tiny cavitations, and whose ultimate ends lead to an artificially created source point, or false mass.

    See, you get the water or other fluid spinning & which which is magnetically reactive so to speak, and so it's a rotational magnet, and which is sucking in the dielectric field since, as described and demonstrated by Wheeler in his very first video, and it is an accelerating magnetic field that spins up the dielectric accretion disk (bloch wall) and the faster you do that, and the faster you can make a connection to the vacuum (the dielectric field) via the cavitation of the bubbles in between the double hulled sphere, then all the surrounding dielectric field is pulled in and back to the zero point of the dielectric. Now the more this happens then the darker the whole becomes, visually I mean, with either bands of darkness or the whole thing goes dark. Look at some of the National Center for UFO reports.
    I’ve always felt, a gut feeling that somehow that water is an intrinsic part of the understanding of gravity. – Then supporting there is the Joe Cell and the claim that there was some kind of levitation phenomena reported at one point in time - if that is to be believed..? - Also somewhere I read (from a so-called future time line source or intelligence) that to learn and discover things about gravity, experiment with magnets, electricity and a bucket of salty water…

    As water is the strangest substance in existence and is critical to living things.

    It may also be critical for mankind’s Aether interactions and
    aspirations.


    Leave a comment:


  • Gambeir
    replied
    I have some information I want to pass along that I've been puzzling over and I have some things coming up so I wanted to pass these thoughts along. Please take a look at the drawing of the saucer and the propulsion system.

    Let's now do a little cross comparative thinking while recalling all the information; those in the patents from the Navy and John St. Claire along with the simple little experimental set up I devised, and while not forgetting Joe Parr's experiments in shape power and magnetism while examining the design shown in the Russian Saucer below.

    Now I admit that at first glance this illustration seems nonsensical but the problem with dismissing it is that it has Tesla's idea's mixed in it along with what appears to be similar concepts involving the Karl Schappeller Device and the same/similar ideas I explained as the probable propulsion system of the first generation Vril Saucer's. So for those reason's I have been pondering this drawing.

    So at first this drawing doesn't seem to make sense, and you could dismiss it were it not for the fact that this illustration has incorporated Tesla's own idea's in it's propulsion system, and you should be able to see that in the spherical ball surrounding a diamond composed of tetrahedron's, or in Tesla's case possibly done using cones.

    So it's a puzzle, I mean the whole thing is a bit of puzzle, the patents, the magnetic glider, and this drawing, but if you think about the bit's of the puzzle then after a while the brain may compute and sort out bits of the puzzle to form a picture. I think that if you actively think upon the whole of all that I've been focusing in on that after a while some idea's will begin to emerge that seems to give credence to this drawing below (Russian Saucer Design).

    I'm sorry but I can't even recall where I collected this image but where ever it was it's rare, extremely rare, just try to find it, and it's similar to several others all by the same person apparently, but this one is different. The propulsion system is different. This has a ring around the exterior of the sphere. Now you may recall a few pages back where I posted an image of donut with coils around it and this is what that ring appears to be, so it's a torus with winding's or as I suggested previously it's a torus with winding's of fiber optics but possibly something more advanced than wires alone.

    Outside Image Link https://i.postimg.cc/gJmLS9tp/Russian-Saucer.jpg

    Russian Saucer.jpg


    Also for reference: I bought a small piece of flat copper from hobby lobby for $5 bucks and an aircraft cutter's tin snips from harbor freight. So about $15 bucks for the snips and about 3 cents of copper for $5 bucks. I cut a piece out and folded it to make a copper tetrahedron. It's quite a bit thicker than the aluminum from a pop can version seen below. Using the same set up I ran the copper tetrahedron over the paper tent that the magnets are under.

    Using copper showed a significant improvement with the copper tetrahedrons gliding along the paper without any hick~ups as theory suggested it would and thus demonstrating the diamagnetism of copper. In theory; the faster the tetrahedron moves, the greater the pressure repulsion should be and that propulsive force should now be vectored via the tetrahedron form so as to produce a vectored thrust/propulsive force. Understanding this simple idea is something you want to keep in your head when thinking upon how layered materials may respond at the atomic scale.

    Graphite Glider-A.jpg

    The main thing here is see copper and aluminum as something akin to positive and negative, and that's because of the similar nature of diamagnetic vers paramagnetic, with still another way to see/view the behavior of copper and aluminum moving in a magnetic field might be as somewhat akin to thinking of them in terms of an off/on, or alternatively as two opposing reactions like a de~facto binary code, and that's because so called quantum effects in computing are probably not what is actually transpiring as these simple predictable results should suggest.

    In the system we are thinking about there's another useful angle, which is a push/pull effect, and which takes place because copper is diamagnetic and aluminum is paramagnetic. Now if you applied an electrified pulsed charge in sequentially timed bursts what do you think the outcome would be? Remember here now the naval patent for a so-called room temp super conducting cable? Remember here the tetrahedron which is composed of sectioned chevrons...the one I was asking about ...cough...cough....earlier...that one? Yes, that one...and so once more I ask you what do you think is going on with that concept?

    Ok, so now that you understand a simplified propulsive scheme let's consider the so~called metal alien artifact previously cited. Does that seem to be making more sense to you now? Such an object might have been created by vapor deposition; sputtering layers of differential materials over each other in order to produce a similar outcome; such that a sequentially timed pulsed charge feed through each layer might predictably result in a cumulative organized propulsive effect.
    Last edited by Gambeir; 09-14-2020, 04:16 PM.

    Leave a comment:


  • Gambeir
    replied
    Apparently...apparently...what I wrote previously wasn't seen for the simplicity that it actually is..not that it's manifestly obvious but it should be.

    Look at what we know; at what the evidence shows:
    1. That magnetism is the result of a slowed dielectric field in coherent form which circulates through a source point; per Ken Wheeler.

    2. That all energy is incorporeal and comes as a result of induction out of the dielectric field which is incorporeal. There are no particles. It's incorporeal, non physical, not quasi~physical. The Ether is totally and completely non~physical (counter~space, zero point, radiant energy, whatever other name).

    3. That no physical transaction takes place which results in the production of energy: It's all incorporeal resulting from interaction (induction) with the incorporeal Ether (Ken Wheeler/Steinmetz;ect all). As noted by Ken Wheeler motion is not a force. Motion does not cause or produce energy. Motion is something that takes place or doesn't: Motion can be like the rheostat that controls the rate of induction.

    4. That this incorporeal field of the dielectric counterspatial domain is hypervelocity in nature; it's vibratory in nature & it's vibrations are of high frequency in the microwave and higher range.

    5. That mutual mass attraction between two masses is the result of two incoherent magnetic fields moving towards a null point between the two, just as two magnets will move towards a null point between themselves.

    Now then, using those basic's we can theorize that to produce a quote "False Mass," and which could be utilized to create motion & in a specific direction, all we need are three basic concepts. We need a high frequency magnetic substance rotating in the correct direction and that will, all by itself, form a centrifugal vortex which produces a quote "source point" & to which the Ether will flow, just like it does in a magnet's centrifugal vortex, but here it flow's to an artificial point source which then represents the center point of an artificially induced false mass, and from there, given the false mass is sufficient, the real mass will move towards as though there were now two real masses each seeking to move towards a null point in space.

    Think of the Vril Design as an analog version of the same thing.

    Essentially this contraption is creating a black hole like a magnet has when viewed from the top, the black hole being the centrifugal vortex leading to the source point. The induction of the ether is or should be all along the sides, so it should produce a visual similar to or like George Piggott's levitating silver balls, how it works should produce very similar dark banding as the ether is inducted into a vortex of rotating dielectric fluid and the interior of the sphere is likely a vacuum to assist the ether/dielectric field back to it's origin.


    • Think about the Earth which is 75% water, almost all of which is salt water, electrically/magnetically reactive, or magneto~hydro~electric and the earth of course has a resonance, the Schumman Resonance, and it has a tilt caused by magnetic precession due to the magnetic field (see Wheelers' video on magnetic precession). So anyways, what keeps water stuck to earth is basically the bottom line. We are ourselves of course mostly salt water. Then there's the UFO's and Water. So water, esp salt water is or was an early way to induct the dielectric field. It's a dielectric but with salt it becomes magnetically electrically reactive, and that combined with rotation & Vibratory amplification produces a false mass, or source point of a false non-existing mass; cavitation (star in a jar concept) become's the key enabling feature of this design along with the fact that the rotating fluid is carrying a magnetic field, thereby speeding up the accretion disk's of all those spinning tiny cavitations, and whose ultimate ends lead to an artificially created source point, or false mass.

      See, you get the water or other fluid spinning & which which is magnetically reactive so to speak, and so it's a rotational magnet, and which is sucking in the dielectric field since, as described and demonstrated by Wheeler in his very first video, and it is an accelerating magnetic field that spins up the dielectric accretion disk (bloch wall) and the faster you do that, and the faster you can make a connection to the vacuum (the dielectric field) via the cavitation of the bubbles in between the double hulled sphere, then all the surrounding dielectric field is pulled in and back to the zero point of the dielectric. Now the more this happens then the darker the whole becomes, visually I mean, with either bands of darkness or the whole thing goes dark. Look at some of the National Center for UFO reports.
    • (Opp's) had to delete a sentence which conflicted. The loss of light: * In real matter there is the production of magnetism as matter itself sets up a slowed recirculating dielectric field; incoherently (unless it really is a magnet which is then coherent), and that gives matter a dielectric field around itself under normal conditions.
    • Whereas in the false mass the whole of both the real and the false mass are moving towards a null point connected to the dielectric field (counter~space), a black hole so to speak, and hence there is no dielectric field coming out of either the false mass or the real mass to produce light; which is why we get the production of darkness. Hopefully that is logical enough to follow.




    • Oh an another thing; you might not need a sphere, at least not to levitate. You would for other reasons but to simply levitate you might not. Look the photo of the German Mockup of their first version. I'm sure this is a model held up to the sky to show the general staff what the thing would look like. So originally they were planning on using hat box like arrangements. This is the next step from the Vril Saucer design. Now obviously they soon realized that the sphere's would be superior and since they had the ability to make sphere's easily enough they went that way, but for experimenting a hat box like arrangement may work....may work. I'm working on a paper/cardboard model to work this all out.



    Last edited by Gambeir; 09-06-2020, 01:20 AM.

    Leave a comment:


  • Gambeir
    replied
    Still waiting...in the mean while a subtle hint.
    http://www.energeticforum.com/forum/...enerator/page9

    Leave a comment:


  • Gambeir
    replied
    Why you should care.
    I think I've made a pretty damn good case for the Vril Saucers being real. All it will take to conclusively prove the case is the smoking gun of a working replication. Why this matters to you can be summed up with the understanding that this technology is an enabling technology as advanced as an airplane is over an ox drawn wagon, and why that matters is that those photo's I've posted show the origins of the birth of the machine came from very elite intellectuals, and to remember that the Nazi ideal was a superman/superwoman, and that World War II was really a war about genetics. This ideal has never been abandoned. That's why I've made the allegations I have. Well it's part of the reason, others involve actual criminal cases of missing, abducted, and murdered individuals.

    We are insulated from reality, coddled, stuffed with idiocy, and raised with fantastical stories. What's happening right now with Covid-19, with BLM, with Antifa, with big pharma and billionaires is a masterful plan which is all party to another big lie. You know about the big lie right?
    https://www.urbandictionary.com/defi...he%20Big%20Lie

    "Nietzsche said; often people prefer illusion to the truth. The truth hurts, and as a species that avoids pain and seeks pleasure, the preference is a lie." https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...03/the-big-lie

    If we let others think for us we are never going to get anywhere. If physics can't figure out how a UFO works after 100 years then do you really think it's right? Suppose just for example that the physics taught in colleges and universities today could not explain what airplanes were either? Given the present situation revolving around UFO's the only real explanation out of officialdoom has been that these machines come from other worlds, now can you even imagine what the official explanation for airplanes might have been if that technology had also been effectively captured? Of course that sounds absurd but is it? What if the way a UFO works isn't essentially any more complex than the way a kite fly's? Ya do realize airplanes were often first referred to as kite's right?

    As a result of people asking uncomfortable questions the system has been forced to come out with a revised story, and like always it's come forward with another counter~intel operation, and like all good military planners this one was planned a long time ago. Undoubtedly there's a backup plan to the back up plan, and so as I've suggested in these illustrations, the so~called quantum theory was a cultivated explanation being saved up for that day when the uncomfortable questions began.

    This questioning has now brought us the release of these so-called Navy Patents, and I wrote previously (in this same thread a few pages back) these appear to be highly doctored patents, but whether or not there is one word of actual truth in those patents is for you to decipher. Remember, mind control is really about getting you to abandon critical reasoning by taking the easy street, and the easy street is to allow someone else do the thinking for you.

    Now I posted this image before. The question is: What are you seeing? I want you to look at the tetrahedron specifically. I want you to look at it until you think you understand it.
    If you think you understand it then private message me. If I do get some responses, then I talk about the tetrahedron, the art, the origins of the art, other art, the other implications.

    Thank you.

    Outside Link to image.
    https://postimg.cc/XX7T6Ddc

    Tetrahedron and Cube.png















    Last edited by Gambeir; 08-11-2020, 12:05 AM.

    Leave a comment:


  • Gambeir
    replied


    To continue: Understand that I don't know that I have this all figured correctly but my gut tells me that what I explained is basically correct, at least in general, and it does explain some of the more mysterious parts to the UFO enigma, which would include blurred areas around them, dark bands, all dark or even pitch black shapes, then hyper velocity travel without sound, and so on.

    The issue I'm having in continuing to write is whether what I've said and what I've tried to make more clear with these illustrations is if they make sense to others? The idea for going this route with an analysis of the Vril Saucers is based on standard operating procedure in approaching a mystery. If we use history and assume man made UFO's begin with the Vril Saucers, then by using those illustrations of Vril Saucers we can see there was an evolutionary series of developments, and which if they are legitimate drawings we should then be able to track those changes through a logical progression which should then help us to understand more contemporary machines.

    The theory of how this design works is basically very simple, even if difficult to explain, but the difficultly to explain is less due to the complexity of the subject matter than it is due to resistance to what these drawing are really saying, and that is where I think a the real problem lies, because what this means is the design, the explanation, and the history suddenly saying that what we think isn't right and what we think we know and what we have been taught is either completely wrong or nearly completely wrong.

    All I can say to those who whom resist understanding is this: An adult cannot remain in a delusional state and still be considered an adult. It's the duty of all adults to seek the truth because only in truth is there protection. You self sacrifice for your children and for future generations and that's what seeking the truth involves; it involves a high degree of self sacrifice. That understanding is as ancient as humankind and the burden of every real adult. So whatever the personal cost a responsible person will pursue the truth.

    learning a new theory of how Universe actually works may involve drastic revisions to what we think we understand, and that has (apparently) many people putting up their educated barriers to become self appointed gate keepers, but it should be obvious that these illustrations of the Virl saucers; these formerly inexplicable and strange saucer drawings are, in reality, evidence that those same ideas and conclusions of Ken Wheeler were also arrived at in another epoch of time.

    It should be pretty obvious that nearly the same information which Ken Wheeler has made public was at least partially understood a very long time ago, only it never made it in to the hands of the public, and later on this understanding was weaponized, and only then was it handed back over to the public. That's really what these drawings are showing and they are prima facia (literally red handed) evidence showing that is true.

    Those are things you should be able to see for yourselves in looking at the way this machine works. You should also be able to see that these tetrahedrons were understood as a functioning mechanical tool like an airplane's airfoil is, and that the air was instead the aether, and that the aether had to be a gaseous fluidity of some kind. That understanding is completely reversed in quantum physics and that alone should be more than enough to indict the whole theory of quantum physics as probably suspect.

    All that over 70 years ago: At least 70 years ago and maybe even longer. So you see they took that understanding of how Universe actually works and and twisted it inside out to create a fabricated story about the way Universe works. A story complete with fictional higher dimensions, time travel, alternate realities and so on. None of which we can consider valid in light of this fabricated re-telling of what was obviously understood completely differently a very long time ago.



    So> If you can start to understand this machine, and at that level of technological development it was birthed in, then it mean's you can probably build one. Sounds crazy I know but look at the technology of the epoch 1930's ~ 1940's. Others here on this site will know better than I but this machine also doesn't appear to be using any real motor. The reasons should be obvious if the hypothesis of operation is later proven.

    The other thing I had in mind by using these illustrations is that by following a historical trail you should be able to start to see how this machine (the Vril Saucer Design) begins to evolve and morph and then grow in to another more advanced design and so hopefully that too is now becoming more apparent.

    You have to really think about the way this thing was intended to work to understand what the design was trying to accomplish. I just started with the tetrahedrons because the tetrahedron is such a key part to the theory of quantum physics construction of space+time at the planck scale. It was just too coincidental to be accidental.
    Last edited by Gambeir; 08-06-2020, 06:06 AM.

    Leave a comment:


  • Gambeir
    replied
    Originally posted by bistander View Post
    Hi Gambeir,

    I'm just an infrequent reader of this thread. I just noticed something elsewhere on the interwebs which I think may interest you and/or readers. It happens tonight, I think. Other that that, I know nothing about it. Use it or lose it. And I'll be glad to delete this post at your request. Cheers. bi
    https://www.overunityresearch.com/in...0;attach=36034
    Thanks, Others may find it useful so please just leave it up. I believe this was referred to me earlier by Ramset.

    Leave a comment:


  • bistander
    replied
    Hi Gambeir,

    I'm just an infrequent reader of this thread. I just noticed something elsewhere on the interwebs which I think may interest you and/or readers. It happens tonight, I think. Other that that, I know nothing about it. Use it or lose it. And I'll be glad to delete this post at your request. Cheers. bi
    https://www.overunityresearch.com/in...0;attach=36034

    Leave a comment:

Working...
X