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  • #16
    Timing magnet positioning.

    The illustrations show a sideways view of the 6 "Kundel Magnets" positioned on one of the timing wheels on the left, and a frontal view. The other side has staggered magnets to line up with the opposite poles.

    The force rotor magnets has to carry the rotor 180 degrees as the minimum to run this alternator because the "Kundel Stator" imparts only a 90 degree rotation to the timing wheel magnets, and the timing magnets show up facing the wrong direction if it dosen't race past that point..
    Last edited by Allen Burgess; 04-16-2018, 07:08 PM.

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    • #17
      4 magnets.

      This kind of alternator can't work with 12 magnets! With 4 rotor magnets, each kick would need to spin the wheel and timing magnets 180 degrees, even though the force stops at 90, or the "Kundel" timing magnets would wind up upside down. This "follow Through" force to carry the wheel the extra 90 degrees involves the timing and positioning of the linear stator and the magnet strength. The "Kundle Actuator" needs this glide stroke to work. Luc would be better off with the helix pinion gear.

      The two rotor magnets themselves could act as Kundle actuators if the wheel rotated 180 degrees from a single propulsion kick of the linear stator.
      Last edited by Allen Burgess; 02-13-2017, 08:01 PM.

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      • #18
        Glide pass.

        This is the only possible way this can work. The "Kundle Actuator" makes the glide pass:

        A jar lid with two same size magnets as Luc uses would generate the same lateral force at each turn as Luc's 12 magnet rotor, it just needs to turn six times faster to equal the frequency. A rotor that size would be alot easier to turn, yet we'd have the same 530 grams of lateral force in each direction!
        Last edited by Allen Burgess; 04-16-2018, 07:08 PM.

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        • #19
          Abacus

          The sketch below is of a diametric neo tube on a wire over broad face polarized ceramic ring magnets. There are two diametric "Kundel" rings in opposition on the top wire at each end of the rotor, for linear to rotary actuation (below left, and right). Rotation of the neo tube results in linear shuddering in the ceramic rings below, and this motion should transfer back to the neo tube spinner through the twist kick from the (Cross Field) stator rings attached to the ceramics at the base. The neo tube needs to travel 180 degrees from each stator impulse to work. The field poles of the diametric stator rings have to be on the horizontal in closure against a perpendicular rotor polarity. A couple of plastic bread snaps could act as cotter pins around the wire axle to keep the rotor tube centered, and tongue depressors can act as stator braces glued to the stator magnets and to bushings at the sides of the ceramic's pile, with holes for the wires to pass through..
          Last edited by Allen Burgess; 04-16-2018, 07:08 PM.

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          • #20
            Toroid stators

            Here are the Toroids:
            Last edited by Allen Burgess; 04-16-2018, 07:08 PM.

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            • #21
              180 rotation.

              Kundle maintains the retraction force turns the magnets an additional 90 degrees for a total of 180 degrees. Luc's setup with 2 rotor magnets on a baby carriage wheel would have the best chance. Assuming Kundel's correct, and there's power on the retraction stroke, the wheel would have constant power from both sides This motor may need two cogs on the wheel to flip the stator magnets over at the 180 point!.
              Last edited by Allen Burgess; 04-16-2018, 07:08 PM.

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              • #22
                Twin staggered rotor magnets.

                Two tracks of rotor magnets staggered side by side could operate two seperate linear magnets on tracks below. Two rotor magnets NS following each other on the left side of the wheel would move the wheel 180 degrees from one side, in and out, then the two magnets on the right side of the rotor would shove the second linear magnet on the other side in and out for the second 180 degrees of the revoloution! This way the Kundel magnets line up right for the stator, and it would double the throw.! The wheel might need some balance weights on the spokes. A wheel with four twin staggered rotor magnets and two linear drive magnets attached to the kundle stators and timing magnets..
                Last edited by Allen Burgess; 02-15-2017, 11:45 AM.

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                • #23
                  Schematic

                  Here's what it would look like: The rotor magnets would actually be positioned at 90 degree intervals, unlike the schematic which just shows the offset arrangement. The staggered array doubles the "Throw". One traveler magnet is always to the outside when it's twin makes its transit; A strip of mu-metal between these magnets would completely eliminate interference. This design thoroughly integrates the 'Kundel" actuator into Luc's rotary linear actuator. The combination is a win win proposition. A thin plexiglass disc with the block ceramics glued to the side would look like the drawing on the right. The center figure is a distortion.
                  Last edited by Allen Burgess; 04-16-2018, 07:08 PM.

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                  • #24
                    weight drop

                    Luc could hang 530 grams of weight off his rotor wheel by a string 1/2" off his bench top, drop the weight and see if the rotor wheel traveled 90 degrees to test the concept's feasiblity. It's easy to see how a smaller wheel with less magnets would go further from the same 530 gram, 1/2" drop test. Pictured below are two of the four offset rotor magnets positioned at 90 degrees, and again glued to the side on a thinner disk: Fattening disk thickness would reduce traveler magnet interference at the base.
                    Last edited by Allen Burgess; 04-16-2018, 07:08 PM.

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                    • #25
                      Kundel video

                      In this video, Kundel shows his actuator get a full 360 degree rotation from each in and out cycle:

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJu6IUlWzYI

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                      • #26
                        Full Twin

                        The best advantage would come from filling the wheel with rotor magnets and doubling the force to drive the wheel.
                        Last edited by Allen Burgess; 02-15-2017, 06:17 PM.

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                        • #27
                          90 dgree approach.

                          It occured to me that I may have left everyone wondering what good the reciprocating design I dreamed up is? If the stator magnet approaches the timing magnets at 90 degrees instead of 180, The wheel only turns 90 degrees not 180. The advantage to this is that cuts the throw in half, along with the input. The available throw is under a half an inch!

                          Look at this four magnet rotor: The motor dosen't need space between the rotor magnets. The Kundel Rotary to Linear actuator uses a square magnet.
                          Last edited by Allen Burgess; 04-16-2018, 07:08 PM.

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                          • #28
                            Double array

                            Look at this square wheel trigger rotor: This arrangement would double the power to the wheel, and minimize the drag. Each stator would share the work evenly. The traveler rotor magnet gap would equal 1/10th of an inch.
                            Last edited by Allen Burgess; 04-16-2018, 07:08 PM.

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                            • #29
                              Siamese array

                              Here's the "Siamese" array and the Yu Oscillating generator. The question is: Will the traveler magnet go the extra distance? What's wrong with four same polarity magnets side by side accross the stepper wheel? A two inch throw could work both sides of the wheel. There's four times the free energy in the magnet track. We can see how Luc's opposite pole rotor magnet placement solves Yu's cantankerous servo problem. Suppose we rotated two opposite magnet tracks on a barrel? Would that magnet traveler be able to spin the rotor? power the rotor?

                              There's an asymmetrical relationship between the additional force extra track magnets generate and the force necessary to spin the rotor with the additional magnet weight. The NS square trigger rotor only needs to turn 90 degrees.
                              Last edited by Allen Burgess; 04-16-2018, 07:08 PM.

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                              • #30
                                Quadro.

                                Here's four box tracks turning each other in succession with connecting rods then reversing itself:
                                Last edited by Allen Burgess; 04-16-2018, 07:08 PM.

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