Daniel McFarland Cook

[vidbid]

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[Ufopolitics]

After reading this I have to side with the interrupter. Even though a current is interrupted the magnetism in a large core takes a long time to dissipate and would surely continue to exist during makes and breaks of several hundred cycles per second.

Whether Cook's induction coils produce quantity or intensity is never mentioned, only that it is self-sustaining. Right?

Regards,
CM

Hello Cadman,

I do agree with you on above statement...As I know that magnetism will take longer to fully dissipate from iron cores...no doubt at all about this fact.

However, if you are thinking about magnetism as a Spinning Virtual Field (like I do), when magnetic field is in the Stage of Collapsing, it starts a reverse spin, just like unscrewing a bolt.

Now figure out a Bolt being very Slowly unscrewed, BUT with very High Torque...and all the sudden, you get a High Impact Power Screwdriver...and apply full trigger (speed + hammer torque) to it...

What could happen to the screw?

Definitively will shear off (brake, cut off in half) that bolt...

Do you think this is the right way to drive that screw In-Out?

That is my take on a sudden, radical, On-Off Interruption to a Magnetic Field...and so, to the currents supposedly to be growing up gradually as a consequence from Magnetism Induction in a Time increasing environment...


Magnetism is very, but I mean very "picky"...as it does not like sudden, radical changes...it will just destroy its Cycloids...


Regards


Ufopolitics

[Ufopolitics]

Whether Cook's induction coils produce quantity or intensity is never mentioned, only that it is self-sustaining. Right?

Regards,
CM

By the way Cadman,

I have found out...that there is a certain and specific strength Value of the Magnetic Field, required and resumed basically into VA Ratings to E-Magnet...in order to be able to start the Effective "Spatial Inducing Magnetic Field" on a Secondary Core-Coil...regardless of geometry positioning...

And so, if we do not use equal or above those rating spec's...absolutely Nada will happen...or if close to...we will get just "some" output...but no "Magic"...


Regards


Ufopolitics

[Allen Burgess]

Cook battery.

Design incorporates an interrupter per induction coils of the late nineteenth and early twentieth century patents as in the case of a few of Benitez's patents.

@Vidbid,

Very nice schematic! I see you have the secondary coils coupled to each other; To be true to Daniel McFarland Cook's original patent, the secondary of the bottem coil should couple to the primary of it's overhead twin. The secondary of the overhead coil should, in turn, couple back to the primary of the bottem coil; This way, a solitary interruption from the bottem coil will cause a series of mutually supporting oscillations between the two coils.

[vidbid]

Simple or Compound Helices - That Is The Question

@Vidbid,

Very nice schematic! I see you have the secondary coils coupled to each other; To be true to Daniel McFarland Cook's original patent, the secondary of the bottem coil should couple to the primary of it's overhead twin. The secondary of the overhead coil should, in turn, couple back to the primary of the bottem coil; This way, a solitary interruption from the bottem coil will cause a series of mutually supporting oscillations between the two coils.

Thanks,

For the most part, right I believe you are.

However, I believe that a possible interpretation of the wording of the patent could include the meaning of the use of compound or simple helices arrangements in some form or another:

The poles of the two helices being connected the action is the same as in the compound helices, there being but four currents developed, two initial and two terminal currents, the latter flowing constantly in the same direction—-in effect there being but one current in the same direction. The mode of producing or starting the action in the helices consists in the use of a steel or electro-magnet, or a helix, around one of the helices, and
causing a secondary current in the enclosed helix by means of a battery current in the outer one; the action then in either the simple or compound helices increases in quantity to the maximum capacity of the wires to conduct with the existing tension of the current.

Though, I agree that it's probably as you say.

[Allen Burgess]

Cook battery.

@Vidbid,

To be precise, Cook's primaries are thin #30 gauge magnet wire, and his secondaries thick #16 gauge insulated household wire: Look at the schematic from his patent below:

Cook explains: "By this combination the initial secondary current of the primary helix being very small in quantity in comparison to the terminal secondary current of the secondary helix offers but little resistance to the terminal secondary, hence a quicker action is secured"; Cook infers that the tiny current travels faster through the thick low resistace secondary wire then it does through the thin wire primary of greater turns!

The thinner wire's the first layer of wraps; Cook states that "The initial secondary current is very small"! Cook has transformed the high voltage from his thin wire primary to low amperage in his first thick wire seconday! Just the opposite of the Ruhmkopf coil you're showing in your schematic.

The primary and secondary coils are wound in opposite directions CW & CCW. It's important to notice that the interconnecting primary and secondary of the opposite coil are both wound in the same direction. That's why Cook states that: "the two terminal currents are in effect (there being but) one current in the same direction".

The low amperage current from the thick wire secondary travels into the thin wire primary of the sister coils in the same direction. There it increases in voltage and induces a low amperage current in the sister coil thick wire secondary, where it's returned to the first coil's thin wire primary in the same direction. So the currents in the individual coils are running past each other in opposite directions , but in the same direction inside the two coil circuit. What effect would the "Colliding Magnetic Fields" have on the electrical current in the nested wires where the currents are running by each other in opposite directions?

[vidbid]

@Vidbid,

To be precise, Cook's primaries are thin #30 gauge magnet wire, and his secondaries thick #16 gauge insulated household wire: Look at the schematic from his patent below:

Cook explains: "By this combination the initial secondary current of the primary helix being very small in quantity in comparison to the terminal secondary current of the secondary helix offers but little resistance to the terminal secondary, hence a quicker action is secured"; Cook infers that the tiny current travels faster through the thick low resistace secondary wire then it does through the thin wire primary of greater turns!

The thinner wire's the first layer of wraps; Cook states that "The initial secondary current is very small"! Cook has transformed the high voltage from his thin wire primary to low amperage in his first thick wire seconday! Just the opposite of the Ruhmkopf coil you're showing in your schematic.

The primary and secondary coils are wound in opposite directions CW & CCW. It's important to notice that the interconnecting primary and secondary of the opposite coil are both wound in the same direction. That's why Cook states that: "the two terminal currents are in effect (there being but) one current in the same direction".

The low amperage current from the thick wire secondary travels into the thin wire primary of the sister coils in the same direction. There it increases in voltage and induces a low amperage current in the sister coil thick wire secondary, where it's returned to the first coil's thin wire primary in the same direction. So the currents in the individual coils are running past each other in opposite directions , but in the same direction inside the two coil circuit. What effect would the "Colliding Magnetic Fields" have on the electrical current in the nested wires where the currents are running by each other in opposite directions?

I can't argue against the wording of the patent.

Granted, I was taking license.

I concede.

[vidbid]

Something Like This -- Who Knows



Primary = #30 gauge magnet wire

Secondary = #16 gauge insulated wire

The primary and secondary coils are wound in opposite directions CW & CCW.

Getting closer.

[vidbid]

Thanks for the Clarificatin - Version 2



So, getting closer but still needs work.

[vidbid]

Possible Clarification



Possible Clarification

[Ufopolitics]

Possible Clarification

Hello Allen, Hello Vidbid,

You guys are clarifying everything as you go!...that is great!

Allen, your clear understanding in explaining patent wordings is excellent!

Now, Cook writes about "Eight Currents" there...right?

And we only have four coils and therefore should be four currents...right?

Well, I believe that is because we are not counting the Four reversed currents generated by Electromagnetic Induction...

So, in each Primary-Secondary Assembly, we have Input counter currents between them...as well as in the (lower) Primary-Secondary assy.

This opposite traffic generates opposite flows currents as an Inducted reactive response.

This effects Magnetic Fields constantly changing polarities along both iron cores in each assy...or Two Alternative N/S to S/N fashion.

This is like a "Bouncing Back and Forth" of currents, generating alternative Magnetic Fields.

This creates a Current Alternative Wave which, even being constantly reversing...never goes below zero.

Just as Cook states...they are all traveling in the same direction.


Anyways, this is my take on this.


Thanks and Regards


Ufopolitics

[Allen Burgess]

Cook patent.

@Vidbid, Ufopolitics,

Thanks! Excellent job; That's exactly how it's hooked up! Cook calls for two six foot long coils and cores where the windings overlap completely from end to end. The coils deliver a combination of transformer and generator induction: The current is traveling in opposite directions at differing speeds; The current in the larger wire secondary of less resistance penetrates the primary with a corkscrewing magnetic field that travels in reverse direction through the primary wire and it's magnetic field simultaneously. The reverse field is counter spinning and traveling along the length of the primary windings at the same time. The field is also bouncing from the interuption. This "Lorentz" (motion in the ocean), interpenetration of force fields, causes generator induction in the windings.

The input current interuption causes transformer induction with the ferrite cores. So together, the coils are not only transforming voltage but also generating amperage from the "Lorentz" force of magnetic field collision. Cook warns that this (battery coil) generates a powerful spontaneous power of it's own that will heat up and fry itself if a load is not connected.

[Ufopolitics]

@Vidbid, Ufopolitics,

Thanks! Excellent job; That's exactly how it's hooked up! Cook calls for two six foot long coils and cores where the windings overlap completely from end to end. The coils deliver a combination of transformer and generator induction: The current is traveling in opposite directions at differing speeds; The current in the larger wire secondary of less resistance penetrates the primary with a corkscrewing magnetic field that travels in reverse direction through the primary wire and it's magnetic field simultaneously. The reverse field is counter spinning and traveling along the length of the primary windings at the same time. The field is also bouncing from the interuption. This "Lorentz" (motion in the ocean), interpenetration of force fields, causes generator induction in the windings.

The input current interuption causes transformer induction with the ferrite cores. So together, the coils are not only transforming voltage but also generating amperage from the "Lorentz" force of magnetic field collision. Cook warns that this (battery coil) generates a powerful spontaneous power of it's own that will heat up and fry itself if a load is not connected.

My pleasure Allen,

The only part of all your above post that I am not just agreeing with...is simply to bring on to an OU and Motion Perpetual, Self Runner Device (as it is claimed by Inventor)...absolutely anything that have to do with Classic Magnetism...like -for instance- a "Transformer Effect"...Transformers theory would never, ever will admit that Input would be lower than Output Power (VA)

The way a transformer works is based on a closed core...(not here on this device, where both cores are completely open cylinders) where self or mutual inductance takes place...Flux is running through the closed frame from one coil to the other...

Cook's Device is based completely on SPATIAL MAGNETISM, that by the effect of magnifying-retracting will induce all coils in the system, not only secondaries.

As also, the Lorentz Single Vectors of B-Field Flux...would NOT apply here either. According to Lorentz...a device like this will have huge magnetic losses since B-Fields would be "lost in space"...

Like I wrote before on the Clemente Figuera Thread (by Vidbid)...it is almost impossible trying to "explain" any OU Device based on the existing Magnetism Laws, plus Lorentz Transformations...basically if they refer to Spatial Magnetism Fluctuations, deriving on a "Spinning Magnetic Field"...discarded by Lorentz way back in Time.

Plus the Magnetic Field does NOT need to collapse nor be "interrupted" to properly operate. All it is required is to fluctuate field strength (based on currents feed)...within positive values.

I really believe this above proposal is so simple to "digest"...since all other methods have been tried for decades and they all have been proven NOT to work at ALL...and so, I really can not understand why...we keep trying and trying??...


Regards


Ufopolitics

[Allen Burgess]

Open core transformers.

@Ufopolitics,

A partial quote from you:

"The way a transformer works is based on a closed core...(not here on this device, where both cores are completely open cylinders)"

The "Induction Coil" pictured in Vidbid's comments is an open core high voltage transformer, is it not?

[Bob Smith]

Do any of you think it's possible that interactions between coils gradually builds until it produces a series of EM standing waves? I'm referring to a heterodyning of oscillation frequencies between the coils. This heterodyning might produce standing waves which, in theory can be harnessed without affecting the oscillations within the coils which interact to produce them. In this sense, the constant output of charge picked up from the standing wave(s) would cause many in DM Cook's time to consider this apparatus a "battery."

Lovin' this thread, guys.
Bob