Figuera Device, Part G Continuum.( Serious Builders Only)

[Shadow119g]

Re: part G

I am getting close to finishing my part "G".
It has been a challenge, but, of course, I will not quit!!
Good luck to all,
Shadow

[marathonman]

Previous

I agree and i am already been working in that direction in replication but my current cores are just fine, i will test my part G first before i proceed any further. i am reviewing notes as we speak. one thing to note is i did not use a core on the first one as i did not fully comprehend part G at that time and only resistive wire was used. that is why it got so hot as i have said many times before nor was it looped back to self. yes a com was used.
as for part G, i think Doug may be holding the key to success or at least a key factor but i doubt it, i am reviewing my notes and it could be right under my nose so it could be on me, i don't know but i will find out.

edit; i hear the mouths again, running and building NOTHING but hot air balloon yapping about resistance in the primaries when part G controls the currant.stupid.


MM

[Ufopolitics]

Just something to remember, without part G there will be no self sustainment, no way to store the currant in a magnetic field for further use. it is possible i am missing something and will review ALL notes i have and hopefully i will find the problem that is at hand.
I do wish you good luck all the same my friend UFOP.

MM

Thanks MM,

Now, you have built an OU device based on Doug and Your Interpretation about Figuera...I know you used resistance wire wound on a toroid core...am I right so far?...but did you drive it with a motor and the brush directly sweeping on the toroid wire turns?...or a commutator and separated taps like we are all doing here?

I failed to remember your description about the driver method you used...

On my honest opinion is that you should first try to replicate your own previous build, as I do not think it would be that hard nor that expensive either as what you are working on now-... a different structural build, believing it would be superior than the already proven model which worked out just fine...would be a longer and full of questions and problems road to success, honestly, my friend.

With that in hand...there would be absolutely no doubt that Part G and your new set up will work just fine as well...All we have to do is to improve that "primitive" but surely working fine model...




Regards


Ufopolitics

[marathonman]

Part G

Just something to remember, without part G there will be no self sustainment, no way to store the currant in a magnetic field for further use. it is possible i am missing something and will review ALL notes i have and hopefully i will find the problem that is at hand.
I do wish you good luck all the same my friend UFOP.

MM

[Ufopolitics]

My tests show otherwise, at least with my setup. The two output coils have exactly the same wire lengths and they each output exactly the same when situated between N-N or S-S.

Same here,

S-S or N-N is exactly same deal...different spins...same pressures/same results.

Ufo built a straight three core setup that hasn't been successful so I built a different type with two output coils. If this fails I have other ideas.

Regards
Cadman

That is right...a three cores with several Part G's windings type (gauge and # turns...none work as to give OU...However, I did learn a lot over this build...and I really appreciate MM displaying it all here.

I am working right now on another set up...where resistance is constant and all the same for all coils... and so Voltage and Amperage remains exactly the same...only Geometrical different coils...which renders different Fields Volumes...same rotary switch...however it does not uses a Part G, nor resistors bank....if it works as I expect, I will be opening another Thread not to interrupt with Part G building.

Messing around with resistance in a bank of resistors like Figuera displayed as an example... will not only limit current (Amperage) but Voltage as well...not good.

Part G uses Inductance to regulate currents, which is good...but its low resistance and low number of turns requires Higher wattage to run the whole exciter system, where voltage is low due to low # turns...so it is all about higher amperage...plus all the suitable wires and operating sparks that comes with it...makes it harder to see some OU approach.

Anyways this is my take on this build.

And it does not mean I am quitting here either...just looking for a better and more reliable system.


Regards


Ufopolitics

[marathonman]

[QUOTE Who said anything about quitting?QUOTE]

Good, that is good to hear. we need people like yourself so when the power hits the roof we can spread the word that much faster.
I for one am glad you are hear, thank you.

MM

[Cadman]

So what your saying is you are using two toroids for part G or your primary and secondaries are on a toroid. or both.???

My part G is exactly what I posted a picture of at the beginning of this thread, and it works. The only change has been trimming the excess off the leads. The gen is wound on a separate silicon steel transformer toroid.

I have not tried an S S set up but according to Doug it will not work because of the lack of pressure between them. i know what buforn said in the patents but Figuera did not and Figuera was the Genius behind the whole device.

My tests show otherwise, at least with my setup. The two output coils have exactly the same wire lengths and they each output exactly the same when situated between N-N or S-S.

seams you are to quick to quit but that is your prerogative. it seams everyone has slight differences that are not working and we need to be on the same page as a team. people are flying from left field to right field and there seams to be a slight lack of unity but i can not control that nor do i want to. your decision.

Who said anything about quitting?

Ufo built a straight three core setup that hasn't been successful so I built a different type with two output coils. If this fails I have other ideas.

When anyone can demonstrate the proper configuration I will be more than happy to follow it. In the meantime, the search continues.

Regards
Cadman

[Ufopolitics]

Some things which are not "loyal" to Part G config...plus.

Cornboy, your craftsmanship is admirable!

@all
Over the weekend I performed some testing of my little setup. Input is provided with a 12VDC car battery now, which eliminated the oscillating input I had with the battery charger as the input source.

The generator windings are on a split toroid, giving four individual core segments, and the field orientation is N-N and S-S with 1 output coil in between each pole pair

G resistance is a double toroid with 48 turns of #12 solid wire, 8 taps.
Brush RPM is 3600.

Using analog meters the best results were 3 volt 6 amp DC input with 5 volt 2.75 amp rectified output. Output coils were in parallel.

18 watts in, 13.75 watts out.

I also tested higher voltage and amperage input which gave a corresponding increase in the output, but the in/out ratio remained the same.

Reconfiguring the 4 layer field windings into two layers of Tesla style coils, with the end of one winding connected to the beginning of the next winding gave poorer results as did connecting all 4 layers as one continuous coil.

Just for the heck of it I wound 8 turns of #12 stranded on one output coil. This gave 0.3V, 3.1A by itself. Shorting that coil caused the input to drop from 3V to 2V and the input amps to increase to a little over 7A.

There are still a couple of things to try but if they don't pan out I will mark this build as another fail.

Regards,
Cadman

Hello Cadman,


Yeah, Cornboy IS a great builder!

Now about your set up, I see a couple of main things which would not give you results as expected...

First, a Car Battery will literally dump full amperage just because resistance is almost non existing in our high gauge winds.

Second, by splitting the Toroid Core in Four Quadrants it will completely brake apart the Inductance effect which is supposed to develop within a full, closed core...it would be resetting then restarting again...so the signal will be interrupted constantly plus inductance will not restrict currents on the lower path (Retracting Field).

However, even with the couple of things above, which does not adhere to replication spec's...your results were very similar to mine...Resuming, I have not being able to show any, but even minimal possibilities of reaching OU.

And what I see here is that by using such low resistance, amperage will have a very nice expressway to fully develop, and so, low number of turns will not allow higher voltage...so, we are into a "Dead End street" until we solve some of these problems.

IMHO, there is absolutely no need to use that much amperage nor wattage on the exciting system...if there is at least a suitable resistance which regulates amperage and so number of turns enough to operate at a higher voltage.

The only way that I see this system working...is by allowing Inductance to run -non stopping- so it can fully develop without absolutely any "jumps" (meaning interruptions) which comes with the taps design at certain distances/ number of turns...this splits inductance into fragments, so it can not become compact and continuous at the full ferromagnetic core...the way I see it would do with taps...is that Inductance "stretches" then loosing compactness till it reaches next tap in line...


Like I wrote before and many times on this Forum...I am developing other machines as well as this design with Part G...and actually I will keep using the same rotary switch to test them as well...and so, whichever machine that works out better than the other...would be leading my full development.

So far I am not able to build a fully wound toroid with resin and machined in order that brush runs on each turn like Doug did and brought him to success...


Regards


Ufopolitics

[marathonman]

Part G

So what your saying is you are using two toroids for part G or your primary and secondaries are on a toroid. or both.???

I have not tried an S S set up but according to Doug it will not work because of the lack of pressure between them. i know what buforn said in the patents but Figuera did not and Figuera was the Genius behind the whole device.

seams you are to quick to quit but that is your prerogative. it seams everyone has slight differences that are not working and we need to be on the same page as a team. people are flying from left field to right field and there seams to be a slight lack of unity but i can not control that nor do i want to. your decision.

I myself will not ever stop until i have a working device plain and simple.

good luck my friend,

MM

[Cadman]

Cornboy, your craftsmanship is admirable!

@all
Over the weekend I performed some testing of my little setup. Input is provided with a 12VDC car battery now, which eliminated the oscillating input I had with the battery charger as the input source.

The generator windings are on a split toroid, giving four individual core segments, and the field orientation is N-N and S-S with 1 output coil in between each pole pair

G resistance is a double toroid with 48 turns of #12 solid wire, 8 taps.
Brush RPM is 3600.

Using analog meters the best results were 3 volt 6 amp DC input with 5 volt 2.75 amp rectified output. Output coils were in parallel.

18 watts in, 13.75 watts out.

I also tested higher voltage and amperage input which gave a corresponding increase in the output, but the in/out ratio remained the same.

Reconfiguring the 4 layer field windings into two layers of Tesla style coils, with the end of one winding connected to the beginning of the next winding gave poorer results as did connecting all 4 layers as one continuous coil.

Just for the heck of it I wound 8 turns of #12 stranded on one output coil. This gave 0.3V, 3.1A by itself. Shorting that coil caused the input to drop from 3V to 2V and the input amps to increase to a little over 7A.

There are still a couple of things to try but if they don't pan out I will mark this build as another fail.

Regards,
Cadman

[Cornboy 555]

Just too much on the go. I am working on a couple of electrical projects, that big old blue machine, I started long ago. But you never know.

Ok, understand, maybe we will have something to show soon that will tempt you.

Cornboy.

[machinealive]

Just too much on the go. I am working on a couple of electrical projects, that big old blue machine, I started long ago. But you never know.

[Cornboy 555]

Looking good there Cornboy!

Thanks old friend, why don't you pull up some wire and a comfy stool and join in ?.

I am sure your building skills, and understanding of electricals would be most welcome here.

All The Best, Cornboy.

[machinealive]

Looking good there Cornboy!

[marathonman]

Part G

Yes i am well ware of what was involved and what you are trying to accomplish, i was just messin with ya.

ya, i laughed at the 1700 hz thing to, must be living in la la land. maybe he will buy it as a head dress for attracting aliens. simulator aliens.

keep up the Good work.

MM