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  • Woopyjumps "Flyback" auxilliary power coil

    Woopy's driving the magnet rotor with the auxiliary coil alone. The auxiliary coil's powered by the inductive kickback from the Reed switch pulsed primary coil.
    Last edited by Allen Burgess; 11-22-2015, 11:22 PM.

  • #2
    Scope shot.

    Very clean scope shot from Woopy:
    Last edited by Allen Burgess; 07-20-2017, 02:17 PM.


    • #3
      Dual application of magnetic field.

      Woppyjump's new video:

      "Just a video to propose that the magnetic field of a pulsed inductor is created by the current of the power station, but once the magnetic field is created, if you use it to do work or not, it does not need more current".

      Quote from Luc:

      "Once a magnetic field is created in the coil and the switch is opened, we can use it's collapsing magnetic field (flyback) to create a second magnetic field to do more work. Many will say, the flyback does not contain as much energy as the initial input to the coil and therefore will make a weak magnetic field. This is true, if the second magnetic field enters a coil of the same value as the first. However, by using a higher impedance coil it can create as strong of a magnetic field as the first coil did since inductance is what will dictate the force of the magnetic field in the second coil".
      Last edited by Allen Burgess; 12-05-2015, 08:29 PM.


      • #4
        Thanks Allen for spreading the information



        • #5
          Axilliary flyback coil.


          Definitely a major breakthrough! Pictured below, I have a low impedance spiral coil with a nested high impedance solenoid coil that may work in tandem with your flyback circuit. The neo sphere is visible behind and fits inside the solenoid core. The spiral coil has the power to drive the magnet sphere inside the solinoid alone. The fine wire solinoid was originally designed for output, but could easily double as an auxilliary flyback power coil to work in concert with the spiral for super efficiency. Two "Lidmotor Maggie" type satellite output coils, one on each side of the solinoid coil, may be able to loop and self run the unit. Thanks for the idea!
          Last edited by Allen Burgess; 07-20-2017, 02:17 PM.


          • #6
            Glad you like the idea and trying it on different experiment.

            Thanks for sharing



            • #7
              Axilliary flyback coil timing.

              Luc states that the Ohmic resistance is 0.8 and 100 Ohms respectively between his high and low voltage coils, a difference of 125 times. He goes on to state:

              "The other problem the high resistance causes is, the HV coil needs much more time for the magnetic field to build compared to the LV coil".

              Therefore, the LV Spiral and nested HV solinoid coils of correctly disproportionate Ohmic resistance should produce two equally strong consecutive power pulses seperated by a time interval. The extra equal strength HV solinoid pulse would be generated from the LV spiral flyback alone! This approach clearly doubles the efficiency of the pulse motor. Not a small achievement by any measure! Congratulations to Luc! The time interval would limit the R.P.M., but neo sphere magnet strength could be increased to compensate for the speed limitation! This may be an overunity combination
              Last edited by Allen Burgess; 12-08-2015, 02:05 AM.


              • #8
                Lynx Joule Motor.

                You can see red and green coil wires of different gauges in Lynx Joule's double decker flyback window motor, but it's obvious the proportion of inductance between the coils is too small to achieve maximum performance. He has a seperate, overly complex and unecessary timing circuit too. The enormous magnet rotor is a good idea for this design. Nice first try though!

                Last edited by Allen Burgess; 12-08-2015, 11:41 AM.


                • #9
                  Capacitor value.

                  Woopy found that decreasing the capacitor value from 1uf to 0.3uf helped speed the rotor up. The flyback charges the capacitor first; You can see his HV auxilliary coil resistance is 420 times the primary's in the schematic below:
                  Last edited by Allen Burgess; 07-20-2017, 02:17 PM.


                  • #10
                    Twice the copper twice the magnetic force.

                    Here's an excellent video from Hob Nire explaining very clearly how Woppyjump gets the same magnetic force from his higher resistance auxilliary flyback coil as his lower resistance primary:


                    Hob Nilre, 2 weeks ago:

                    +Luc gotoluc Choquette: "I love it the way your handling of the flyback into a second coil puts my theory in my 4th paper into practice"!
                    Last edited by Allen Burgess; 12-09-2015, 02:50 PM.


                    • #11

                      I'm currently confronted with the depressing fact that two HV coils in parallel would outperform the LV and HV flyback coil combination. Looks like an illusory advantage to me at this point.


                      • #12
                        Back spike recovery kills induction.

                        I need to swing around with this video by neatpete45:


                        Fast foward to 3:25 in this video by neatpete45:


                        Neatpete45's "Piggy back" induction coil generates "Lenz Free"' power by induction from the power coil, well out of range of the magnet rotor. Luc's HV "Flyback Auxilliary Coil" dead ends the recovery, and kills induction. The question remains: Can we team up multiple "Piggy back" induction coils?
                        Last edited by Allen Burgess; 12-11-2015, 11:13 PM.


                        • #13
                          Axilliary flyback "Piggy back induction" coil.

                          I wonder if Gotoluc or Woopyjump could try Neatpete45's "Piggy back induction coil" on the auxilliary flyback coil to see if additional output can be collected that way?


                          • #14
                            Orthogonal facing rotor magnets and zero flyback.

                            Here's Woopyjump's latest video where his rotor magnet poles are facing sideways, not at the coil core. This appears to eliminate flyback at the "sweet spot":


                            Quote from Woopy:

                            "It seems that the timing is very important as well as the distance between the rotor and the core of the coil. At some "sweet" point the current trace goes smoothly to zero at the end of the voltage pulse and so it seems that the flyback spike disappears completely".
                            Last edited by Allen Burgess; 12-19-2015, 03:08 PM.


                            • #15
                              Orthagonal rotor magnets and auxilliary flyback coil.

                              Luc gotoluc Choquette's very strong latest video: