Electrolysis Accelerator

[iquant]

Mookie,

What is the temperature of your KOH solution at start and during the avalanche phase?

Have you noticed any heat effect?

[vrand]

Vrand

I never sand plates. I condition them in a supersaturated solution of salt water
by running the DC cell for an hour then reversing the wires and running for another hour.

It is by far the most effective way I have found to condition plates.
It removes huge amounts of impurites and etches the plates.

Mookie

Mookie

Thanks for the info.

Have you thought about mounting 2 thick bars to the magnet face, one on N and another on S, and mount the plates to the bars inside the cell? You can electrically insulate the bars from the poles with a thin sheet of plastic so there is no electrical circuit through the pole. That way there is no space lost/distance issues with the 430 ss being pulled back from the face of the poles due to the cell housing wall thickness.

Interesting idea on etching the ss with salt.

Mike

[Mookie]

Iquant

..A very thoughtful question.

There is a slight rise in temperature ( 1/2 degrees above normal electrolysis )
likely due to the friction of the excess colliding molecules,
and I suspect that it is also being cooled
by the constant circulating of the solution.

Mookie

[Mookie]

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I want to thank everyone here, and elsewhere, for their positive and enthusiastic response to the Accelerator.

This thing began for me with the absolutely moronic notion that a magnet can affect the electrolysis process.
It is for that reason, that I encourage everyone to throw out conventional wisdom, find a way to tests things you thing of,
and stick to them to completion no matter how retarded your idea or thoughts may seem...and never take yourself seriously.
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I must say that I've been overwhelmed with phone calls and emails over the past while and am happy to have answered
all the relevant questions as to how to replicate this, and particularly to Vrand for his thoughtful, well-packaged questions.

Those that know me here privately, know that its time for me to leave again and get back to my work.
I will return again sometime in the future and from time to time, as I am able to escape,
will look in to see who will be the first to replicate it.

All I ask is that you share your results with others ..its the right thing to do.

Mookie

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[vrand]

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I want to thank everyone here, and elsewhere, for their positive and enthusiastic response to the Accelerator.

This thing began for me with the absolutely moronic notion that a magnet can affect the electrolysis process.
It is for that reason, that I encourage everyone to throw out conventional wisdom, find a way to tests things you thing of,
and stick to them to completion no matter how retarded your idea or thoughts may seem...and never take yourself seriously.
.

I must say that I've been overwhelmed with phone calls and emails over the past while and am happy to have answered
all the relevant questions as to how to replicate this, and particularly to Vrand for his thoughtful, well-packaged questions.

Those that know me here privately, know that its time for me to leave again and get back to my work.
I will return again sometime in the future and from time to time, as I am able to escape,
will look in to see who will be the first to replicate it.

All I ask is that you share your results with others ..its the right thing to do.

Mookie

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Thank you again Mookie for taking the time to share your experiment with us on this forum. You have given us the info we need to replicate your very interesting experiment and testing results. Please continue to post your future experiments on Youtube and here, as myself and many other on this forum and on Youtube, are very interested in your work in this field.

Best regards,
Mike R.

BTW, as I gather the parts needed to reproduce your experiment, I will post my testing results here on this thread.

[sucahyo]

Sucahayo

The cell takes on a magnetic property. That is the most amazing part of this for me.
When you turn off the cell after you have run it, and just run the accellerator alone, you visibly can see the water particles following the magnetic field.

...that is the most awesome thing about it.

Mookie

I see. thank you . Have you compare their result with water stirer? Would it improve the output of cell with forced circulation?

I hope you still have time to answer this.

Thanks for sharing .

[RAMSET]

Thanks Mookie!!
I don't know what kind of work you do,But "this" work here ,is a Game changer!
I can not Thank you enough for giving us the opportunity to learn what has been "Lost"!!
God Bless you and yours!
Please look in from time to time.
Chet Kremens
@ G mail.com
PS
Farrah will be doing an "Open Source" build/replication here,
Login

Of course I will share all here and elsewhere!!

[wings]

magnetohydrodynamics?

YouTube - Magnet Electrolysis Water/Vineger Vortex

YouTube - Magnet Electrolysis Water Vortex

YouTube - MagnetohydroDynamic

[RAMSET]

Mookie
Quote:As far as output I need to be cautious in what I say. This "accellerator" is based on Felix Ehrenhaft's work in the 1930's. His experiments, and those who briefly followed up on it demonstrated a tenfold to 15x increase in the electrolysis rate. I have no way to properly measure that, but can confirm from my own experiments that the increase has to be at least ten times.The effect, as I said earlier, is obvious, dramatic and ferocious.

I assure you, firsthand, that the work that those that are doing this in a much more advanced way than what I have described here
will never see the light of day.
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More On Felix Ehrenhaft

Mookies work is based on this mans work[Felix], a post from
Torano At Over unity [yesterday]

»Quote :
Anyone reseaching Felix Ehrenhaft....

1845 Luigi Palmieri used his "palmieri circle" to split water using the Earths magnetic field.
Details of his experimental set up have obviously been shelved.
Theres a paper written about him,"The scientific life of Luigi Palmieri" by L Casertano , 1999,Vol 42 No 3. I tried the URL ,wasnt happening for me.

The book " Electricity" by Robert Ferguson ,1867 makes interesting reading if you can keep up with the Victorian language and conventional current. Takes your thinking pattern back 140 years, before the rules stepped in.

Electricity - Google Books

**you HAVE TO type in page number 200 to find the section on "Electricity induced by the magnetism of the earth" and Palmieri.
Both Faraday and Palmieri were alive at the time and these theories were accepted. This is before AC took off and all other options dumped, the 1882 edition is suited to AC,its a different book .
Palmieri predicted weather changes from measuring electrical disturbance similar to Subblefield,
His pioneer work lays foundation for alot of 'free energy' research using air core coils.

wiki has a bit of info but not much
Atmospheric electricity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Luigi Palmieri - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[sebosfato]

The fact that it accelerates the electrolysis is perfectly understandable, we now need to know if this energy imparted in accelerating the electrolysis is lower than the produced or what. I will build one myself here.. and check it out.

Regards

Ramset thanks for the book

[RAMSET]

Updated link to other replications

Mookie's Electrolyser Accelerator

Also more on Felix Ehrenhaft [Mookies inpriration] From Torana At OU

Chet

[nvisser]

Is this what we need?

AC Electromagnets
Price List
And here is a cool document from 1935 that tells you axactly how to built one
Popular Mechanics - Google Books

[RAMSET]

Sorry fellas
This is too exciting
Quote from "I flew My own " at OU



Re: The downfalls of conventional electrolysis - and how to fix them
« Reply #431 on: Today at 09:31:30 PM »

I_flew_ my_own Quote:
@Ramset,
This ought to tickle you. I just had a few minutes in the shop to try Mookies idea. I had thought that his method of adding magnetism to the water was very inefficient and indeed maybe it was not the magnetism at all but only the 60hz vibration created by his plates shaking. I dug out an old 3/4 hp. motor core and set it on the bench. Next I found a plastic container that would just push into the hole where the armature used to fit. Of course there was not one piece of stainless in the shop that was attracted to a magnet. Since another theory running through my mind was that eddy currents were shaking the plates I decided to press on anyway. My plates were 316 .032 x 2" by 3.5". I have some polyethylene tube sleeve which is an open diamond weave flexible mesh used to protect expensive machine tools or the threads on the ends of tubing. I used a piece of the mesh to space the plates about 1/16" apart. Just one plate then the mesh then the last plate wedged in the center of the plastic container which was sitting in the center of the motor core. I used 6 volts from a battery charger to the plates. Filtered water and small amount of sodium hydroxide. I used a variac to power the motor core. With the variac at 50 volts a piece of alum or steel held in the core would vibrate at 60 hz. With the plates energized I slowly turn up the variac to full 120 vac. Only the tiny stream of bubbles that you would expect came to the surface. There was no difference with the magnetism or not. Which is what Mookie said would happen.
Then I stuck a 1"x1"x3" ceramic magnet in the container and the magnet promptly stuck to the motor core. This time there was a difference with the variac on full but not as pronounced as in the video. Next I pulled out the magnet and the plates. Then I stuck a magnet onto each plate. Magnet,plate,mesh,plate,magnet like a sandwich. Back into the water to retest.
This was the real deal. With partial power the water boiled throughout its volume with millions of tiny bubbles. The surface was instantly covered with a mass of foam. No! I did not attempt to light it. I will later outside with a long flaming stick. The proverbial ten foot pole. My opinion at this early date is that it is just vibration. It is well worth pursuing and I will tomorrow.
Garry

[charly2]

Just excellent RAMSET, this is a big step, perhaps huge, no, definitey huge, this makes the posibility to try with a conventional HHO cell (wet or dry) and achieve something just dreamed.
This breaks the stucked idea in my head about the resonance al several khz from Meyers HHO cell.
Great job!!!

[RAMSET]

Charly2
Yes ,A game changer for HHO ,Should be an interesting time of discovery, or should I say "rediscovery"?
I sure am glad Mookie persevered,and started this thread!
Hopefully the next time he comes out of his "cave"
We'll have some things to teach him!

God speed!
Chet