Stanley Meyer Explained

[h20power]

After the reaction is all done you get water mist, that's it. We are just interfearing with the reaction by creating unstable Oxygen atoms. In the end it must obey the laws of physics and yeild water for even though the atoms have been altered they are still hydrogen and oxygen. If the water was being consumed there should be radiation present and Meyer never sad anything about creating radiation, so it's like he says it is safe and friendly too the envirenment.


Hope that helps,
h2opower.

[dave_cahoon]

Stan did say "you don't get the water back" I saw his lips and heard it myself.

was a youtube or googlevid a year or 3 ago, I still cant find...

If he did not lie:
Unrolling O1 cleanly = 4a + (8b - the electrons already stripped off)
The Beta is consumed making bonds recombining (water???)...
The Alpha rad wont make it out of the engine, but the helium will.
I don't think engine exhaust analyzers display helium content...
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If he lied:
And you do get all the water back.
The numbers are amazing.

[Guest]

Please do the maths H2O!

I can not see how your explanation fits and Stan actually said he used water, something like 100 MPG of water, please give me the ions before reaction, the water after reaction and put the difference in between to add up to water.

Example: 2H+ (+) O4+ (+) 6e-(where do they come from?) = H20

Simply does not fit unless you find many(in this case 6 electrons) electrons from somewhere to make up the difference and the more you prime the oxygen the more difference you have. You take away electrons then you must get them back somehow to make water! This will be fusion I suspect.

Please explain the maths if you can.

[Guest]

Btw, it is a long time since I finished reading Meyer´s theory about what happens, almost nothing makes sense.

[dave_cahoon]

Gauss, forum,

Back after watching the video I stopped my investigations regarding Stan's tech.

I was discussing the effect with another fella who said the electrons are supplied by the ignition spark..... I disagree but his theory should be mentioned here.

I moved into gasification of biomass and petroleum waist using ionization.

I wish I could upload larger files here, like the Stan video and some pdf's

[dave_cahoon]

In the video Stan also described a magnetic gas as moving material in an electrical generator. Perhaps the exhaust is a magnetic gas like Professor Santilli's magnagas with magnetic bonds instead of electronic ? ? ? ?

[dave_cahoon]

Another point to make is that part of the ionized gasses that contact the metals of the engine combustion chamber and the gas converters constituents can pick up druid gas electrons from the exposed metals. But that only accounts for a fraction of the volume and the whole vehicle would gain a charge.

Has anyone seen a photo of the buggy running in the dark? The exhaust should glow as it encounters the ambient air and ions neutralize making a light show.

[Guest]

Until I understand exactly what happens in the gas processor and in the exhaust pipe I will not support this idea.

Remember Konstantin Meyl warning about people who trigger all the neutrinos into making electrons for them to create energy, like Wardenclyffe when you escalate that project global there will be nothing left for our plants, then the plants can not grow anymore because we are stealing their electrons and taking away our water.

Finally we can not survive like that even if we can drive our cars on water.

So let´s think one more round shall we? Maybe the WFC cycle with water, magnetic HHO and water again is not useless anyway.

[h20power]

Sorry to hear that

Until I understand exactly what happens in the gas processor and in the exhaust pipe I will not support this idea.

Remember Konstantin Meyl warning about people who trigger all the neutrinos into making electrons for them to create energy, like Wardenclyffe when you escalate that project global there will be nothing left for our plants, then the plants can not grow anymore because we are stealing their electrons and taking away our water.

Finally we can not survive like that even if we can drive our cars on water.

So let´s think one more round shall we? Maybe the WFC cycle with water, magnetic HHO and water again is not useless anyway.

This is not a hard part of Stanley Meyer's patent to build, and the one thing I want to point out is when Stanley Meyer switched from gas injectors to water injectors the Gas Processor is still apart of the set up, that to me is a sign that it is very important indeed. Even in the Gas Gun again we have the Gas Processor, why no one has ever built one yet is beyond me.

Whats the harm in building one, it's in the patent? If your going to follow Stanley Meyer's work why would you not make one? That's like building a Tesla coil without the spark gap, for all it is a gap in the electrical connection and air. Answer it's in the patent. So, what makes Meyer's patent any different? Build it, test it, and then get understanding if that aproach works best for you, but the bottom line it is in the patent and it is easy.

And remember if I made any mistakes in my math please correct them, for I am only human after all. But also remember any mistakes I made doesn't impair the Gas Processor from working.

The end of the age of oil is now here,
h2opower.

[h20power]

An original idea

The Gas Processor is just one example of an original idea, for as engines go we have made blowers, turbos, intercoolers, and more. But to alter the atoms energy levels just prior to combustion, to the best of my knowlegde, has never been done before until Stanley Meyer did it in his quest to use water as a fuel source.

In this topic it has been pointed out that the Gas Processor is the true source of power in Stanley Meyer's patent. Some energy calcultions have been done too better explain the NEW energies created by the Gas Processor, that only last for aproximently 0.74 seconds. Not a lot of time, yes, but to an engines air flow speeds, that is kinda slow.

Gasoline only having an energy content of 4864 kJ/mol is nothing to what just oxygen alone is capable of if one strips it down to its' 8th energy level, of 84,078.0 kJ/mol.

Tesla's great dream to bring energy too the people, can now be forfilled. Perhapes not as he intended it too be but none the less the dream of the comon man having control of his/her own energy needs will still be a dream come true. Now only time will tell if anyone heard the message.

Best Regards,

h2opower.

[Guest]

Hi H2OPower, I believe your idea is simple and alright, only practice will reveal the true challenge of finishing this idea. Let us try to get as many as possible into doing it. Can you help with some suppliers of nozzles and a drawing with gaps included for air/water mist ionization?

[Dave45]

I think a concentrated effort by a group of people working towards the goal could make this happen, I cant do the math but can do the mechanical, some can do the math but not the mec we should all work together and make this happen Open Source

[h20power]

That is one of the many reason why I posted this information.

I think a concentrated effort by a group of people working towards the goal could make this happen, I cant do the math but can do the mechanical, some can do the math but not the mec we should all work together and make this happen Open Source

I showed the math of the process so everyone could see for themselves the energies being given off by this Gas Processor. Always I hear the same old story by those who don't understand the technology. Water can't be used as a fuel source for it violates the 2nd law of thermodynamic's. Now I have put up the math that shows done this way it not only is in keeping with the 2nd law but shows it can far exceeds the power of gasoline also. This site is an open source site, that is why I posted what I know of Stanley Meyer's technology here. For the one thing all of the nay sayers wanted most was for someone to show the energies involved, for the normal hydrogen oxygen reaction does not have the energy needed to run a cars engine without very large amounts of the two gases.

So how could a man claim to have run a car with only 7L/min and then later on with no hho gases at all, just water mist, primed air gases, and exhaust gases? It turns out that the primed air gases part was not understood by anyone, until now. No one even bothered to look into what the Gas Processor was doing let alone try to replicate it. Stanley Meyer's death was almost 11 years ago, and still his technology has never been fully understood and/or let out too the masses. But now all that should change for I have pointed everyone in the right direction, and it is up too the end user to research for themselves what the Gas Processor is doing.

So in short, I have let the cat out of the box, but it's up to the end user to realize that the cat has indeed been let out of the box, by checking the box. Where that cat goes is completely up to anyone that reads this post and starts their own research into the role the Gas Processor played in all of this. Through understanding of the role of the Gas Processor, everyone will come to understand that Stanley Meyer's work was just given to the world for free by me as a gift, the way it should be, the way it states is should be done in the Holy Bible. I can not make a horse drink, but Stanley Meyer said you can by giving him salt, but I can show the horse the water hole. The cat is in everyone's back yard now, up to them too choose to see it .

Energy independence is now ours for the taking,

h2opower.

[Guest]

Ok, H2OPower, I get your point but I never said your maths was wrong in terms of energy yield, I just pointed out a question about the end product after ignition. Anyway, let´s get to practice and you did not seem to know any nozzles or gap distances, so we will need to do it the hard way, that is by experimenting:

1) Make an HHO processor, buy a resonant driver with variable duty cycle, voltage and frequency. Then buy the diode, wind 2 bifilar(or trifilar) coils(easy or maybe not..) and make the water cell, make sure to use a machine to make pipes absolutely straight, otherwise bad result. Transformer inductance plus first inductor inductance must match choke inductance. Gap could be less than 1 mm for high Q value.

2) Well maybe try the water nozzle and look carefully at the instruction for the coils above, very small things... Plates I reckon is easier. Should do a big difference.

3) Air ionizer, same like above, no need for nozzle. Uncertain what it will give.

Anyone has the energy to start practice soon?

[h20power]

Ok, H2OPower, I get your point but I never said your maths was wrong in terms of energy yield, I just pointed out a question about the end product after ignition. Anyway, let´s get to practice and you did not seem to know any nozzles or gap distances, so we will need to do it the hard way, that is by experimenting:

1) Make an HHO processor, buy a resonant driver with variable duty cycle, voltage and frequency. Then buy the diode, wind 2 bifilar(or trifilar) coils(easy or maybe not..) and make the water cell, make sure to use a machine to make pipes absolutely straight, otherwise bad result. Transformer inductance plus first inductor inductance must match choke inductance. Gap could be less than 1 mm for high Q value.

2) Well maybe try the water nozzle and look carefully at the instruction for the coils above, very small things... Plates I reckon is easier. Should do a big difference.

3) Air ionizer, same like above, no need for nozzle. Uncertain what it will give.

Anyone has the energy to start practice soon?

That's not the way I am going to be doing it all all. I will be doing it just as Stanley Meyer did it, just water mist, primed air gases, and exhaust gas recirulation, there is no WFC in this design. For the most part I will just have to change the fuel distributor on my car to pump out water instead of gasoline and not seize up. When I get the money to go and buy another fuel distributor, thats what I will be working on, plus making the Gas Processor. Kinda low on funds at the moment but for now it is only a matter of time, for I already know what needs to be done for the most part.

I know I will run into some problems along the way but they are mostly to do with controling the recirculated exhaust gases and the control of the voltage amplitude and stuff like that. Really take a look at the gas processor and understand what it is doing, then you too will know why the WFC is not needed to run a ICE. My cars fuel system seems to just be the right type to convert over to using water as a fuel source directly. I guess I got lucky on that one . Remember KISS method is the way to go. On the Gas Processor just make sure you don't starve your car for air and you should be fine, you know, no trying to make a car suck air through a straw.

Again really take a look into just what is the Gas Processor is doing, and try to understand it fully all the answers you need are there.

Best Regards,
h2opower.