Water Sparkplug Practical Application

[brusers]

Thats what I was thinking. And I'd like to get one that incorperates a battery. Not just a magneto. My setup I have on my bench is currently being charged by my Bedini SSG (need fuzes for my inverter), and it's running off a battery. Got some crazy feedback coming back to that battery, my meter was absolutely freaking out. So.. get the engine, and study that. There has to be a way to isolate that surge. We shall see, thinking about it is killing me, I still have 11 days until payday.. ha ha.
All in good time.

Marcel

[brusers]

You know what, I take that back. I don't know if my meter was just messed up or what, but it's not freaking out now. And I put my scope across the battery leads and I see nothing.
I know that the negative charge is different from using positive charge, but if a solid state radiant carger were used for the caps, maybe the whole spark circuit could be isolated from the rest of the car. My stereo would be safe! I'm really not up to speed on the pro's and con's of using negative vs positive energy though. Something else to think about I guess when ever I can get my hands on an engine..

Marcel

[Peter Lindemann]

Great Blog

Hi,

@Aaron

That sounds like a very plausible way to boost the energy transference without having to up the power requirements.


btw, I have setup a blog to attempt to make this info more accessible for the average person.

Http://yeswaterisfuel.com

Dear K1w1,

Your idea to synopsize this information so that new people can "come up to speed" quickly is a great idea. I'm glad my "replication" film was a clear enough restatement of the earlier work by Luc and Aaron to be useful.

Keep up the great work.

Peter

[Redmeanie]

Hi,

@Aaron

That sounds like a very plausible way to boost the energy transference without having to up the power requirements.


btw, I have setup a blog to attempt to make this info more accessible for the average person.

Http://yeswaterisfuel.com

Nice Blog!

BTW I love your background....I have a collection of Water BackGrounds but not that one.

[K1w1]

blog

Thanks everyone for the positive feedback on the blog.

@Peter

I used your demonstration as it covers all the points clearly and is well presented too.

I'll put up a section for more technical details at some point where I'll reference all the little steps that are made.


@Redmeanie

Feel free to take the image for your collection.

[elias]

Hi

Here is what I found which would be useful for running a car with water:
Pico Electronics: SERIES AV/SMV SURFACE MOUNT and PLUG-IN.

Just in case you need to get high voltage from your car battery.

Elias

[Ozicell]

Ok, here is the updated circuit:

Hi Jetijis,

I am not and electronics wizz at all and as I have never learned electronics with symbols etc, I have great difficulty with circuit schematics. This of course is a great handycap for me in my research generally leaving that side to you guys who know what you are doing. So please excuse me if this is way off but........... am I reading that schematic correct in seeing the battery pos going through the distributer first?

Jeff

[Ozicell]

Ok, I hadn't read all the posts. Am I correct that you are trying to use the Distributer as a switch?

[Jetijs]

Yes, that is correct, but unfortunately the distributor contacts do not touch each other so it will not act as a low voltage switch.

[patmac]

Yes, that is correct, but unfortunately the distributor contacts do not touch each other so it will not act as a low voltage switch.

Using one coil for each spark plug, I like, is very robust that is important. Maybe, if works and engine works well on water, is possible build a big big coil 4 in 1.

[ashtweth]

Thanks everyone for the positive feedback on the blog.

@Peter

I used your demonstration as it covers all the points clearly and is well presented too.

I'll put up a section for more technical details at some point where I'll reference all the little steps that are made.


@Redmeanie

Feel free to take the image for your collection.

Nice Blog, should be in a faculty document , don't forget the Sirlanka guy if you haven't got him in there , back round on him is on this page my friend.
Hydroxy Gas

Also the Hydrogen Fuel Car, Hydrogen Fuel Engine, Water Car - Daniel Dingle Foundation link has since been shown to be a fraud, and is being taken down, also be careful advertising water to gas, as they use baking soda and its a dangerous mix

Ash

[Mario]

With this spark plug method, it is possible that some radiant kickback might fry some computers or other electronics in a car...not sure if it will but something I wouldn't want to do.

Someone at overunity.com said they did this spark method on some engine with gasoline and it was different but they didn't say what was different.

Hi Aaron,

I would imagine they found about the same things Robert Krupa found with his firestorm plug which makes the plasma on its own, meaning that with that kind of a spark the combustion of gas changes, something to do with the hydrogen in the gasoline. He could lean his mixture from 14:1 to about 30:1 and still have more power, much cleaner exhaust, 40% mileage increase and the engine not getting hot. He said he'd only tried it at 30:1 for now ) maybe he would get even more at 60:1, 90:1, etc... He also said that with this plasma spark quantum physics would come into play. He also said that when they sprayed some water on the spark they got a fireball

regards,
Mario

[Aaron]

Firestorm Spark Plug

Hi Mario,

I think the firestorms may make that on their own but I recall in one article that it mentioned some special ignition system. So there might be more than meets the eye.

I saw that Krupa supposedly did 100:1 just to show it can be done but wasn't for practical use.

[Ozicell]

Ball spark plug pressure test

At this stage I am not referring to it as a firestorm replication until it is able to do what firestorms seems to do. I just uploaded 2 videos to Youtube showing it in action within a pressure chamber at 100PSi. Both are dissappointing as at the moment the earth cage is removable to test different designs and it had obviously moved during installation reducing the spark dancing effect. The 1st vid shows the effect with a kiker replication lead between the coil and the distributer. The 2nd I have replaced the spark lead with a kiker repl. as well and the spark does seem to have slightly more energy. Also sorry about the focus, I'll try and get a better video happening after I adjust the earth cage.

YouTube - Ball Spark Plug firing in pressure chamber

YouTube - Ball Spark Plug in pressure chamber with Kiker replication s

[muttdogg]

Okay, I'm ignorant

To Jetjis, etal;
First of all let me say my ignorance about the circuit Jetjis shows. Don't know anything about a water spark plug. What I am wondering about is the sixteen diodes on the left, and the four on the right. I do not understand why sixteen + four are needed. Looks like a diode in series with parallel capacitor, coil circuit would be easier to adjust. Is it the back voltage? Please explain, as I am not understanding the methods y'all use.
Successive diodes become resistors, the first is the only diode to block the forward current, or back current. Zener diodes may be your alternate choice.
Dan