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My Replication of Bedini Solid State SSG without any trigger coil or Pulsing circuit

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  • kajironpu
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    Thank you for your additinal information.

    Guruji san
    "San" is used to respect the person when we call someone.
    Thank you for your additinal information.
    I will try to study more and try to make it.
    If I have any questions, I will ask again.
    Thank you for your suppport.

    Regards,
    KJP

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  • Guruji
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    Originally posted by kajironpu View Post
    Guruji san
    Thank you for your kind reply. We are now recovering from many things.
    I just want to try to make SSG for my interest. Thank you for your information.
    By the way do you know other web site which shows more detail step by step to make SSG motor? U tube shows almost finished good but I really want to know more details how to srart to make SSG motor.
    What's San thank you in japanese?
    In this schematic it's more explained maybe be of more help



    I don't know of any website with more detail. You should begin building it and ask while you're building.

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  • kajironpu
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    SSG motor

    Guruji san
    Thank you for your kind reply. We are now recovering from many things.
    I just want to try to make SSG for my interest. Thank you for your information.
    By the way do you know other web site which shows more detail step by step to make SSG motor? U tube shows almost finished good but I really want to know more details how to srart to make SSG motor.

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  • Guruji
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    Ssg

    Hi kajironpu you had a bad experience last year about the earthquake there.
    Hope that everything comes to normal there.
    Here you have the schematic to begin with:
    Attached Files

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  • kajironpu
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    How to make SSG

    HI, this is first time to make a comment.
    I am pretty interested in making a SSG motor.
    But too many information is confused me.
    Can anyone tell me what is the best web site to make a SSG motor for me very beginner?
    Thank you very much for your help and thank you from JAPAN Fukushima.

    Bset regards,
    kjp

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  • skaght
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    @ geotron

    Try playing with the base resistance, the distance of the magnet to the reed switch and the position of the reed switch inside the coil. After trying numerous reed switches and different arrangements, I've had times when the switch just locks closed and the coil just starts sucking power. It's best to have an arrangement that you can shut off quickly, or even use a circuit breaker to prevent a dead short if the transistor fails to oscillate.

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  • Guest
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    Due to some unknown reason, this reed switch is getting stuck closed.
    It was stuck for long enough to heat the coil up far enough to brown
    the tape holding it together, and it will no longer stay running for
    very long. The magnetic field of the coil was probably too great.

    Could anyone describe and or demonstrate how to pulse a recovery capacitor
    for this circuit back to the source battery please?
    Last edited by Guest; 04-30-2012, 02:31 PM.

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  • ewizard
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    I had forgotten about this message thread. Thanks for the continued input.

    geotron was that your video? I tried to post on youtube to the builder but for some reason could not post there even though I was logged in. I tried to invite him here as I assumed it was not your video. Either way I think this concept may be tapping radiant energy and could use some more exploration. Hopefully I can get time to try it as I've got a Bedini SSG I changed to use a 2n3055 and would just need to mod it a bit to take out the coil and wheel and put in a coil with a reed.

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  • skaght
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    replication

    Thanks for sharing this. I purchased a couple different reed switches and BJT's to see how it works. The larger, high power reed switch with a low resonant frequency doesn't work nearly as well as the smaller reed switches. I also tried a couple different coils. My best is an air core, ~700 feet 14 gauge magnet wire. The resonance pops in and out, yet I was able to charge a 12 volt motorcycle battery from another motorcycle battery without a heat sink on the transistor. Charging battery dropped from 12.47 to 12.18 during charging.

    The MJE13009 works better than other transistors I tried, even transistors with higher frequency capabilities and better beta (gain), so there's something else in play.

    Overall, it's a clever and simple circuit for charging lead acid batteries efficiently. I've never built a school girl motor because I don't typically work with moving parts. This was a nice intro to bedini type chargers.

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  • rrattink
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    starship coil

    I like your ideas. Have you thought to maybe try a starship coil? My understanding is that you require less windings with a stronger magnetic field in the center.

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  • imranexpt
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    Originally posted by alek View Post
    Hi Imran,
    Thx for posting!
    Can you please state which reed switch you used. And also coil diamater wourld be helpful. I want to replicate your experement as closely as possible. Your help would be appreciated.
    Thanks
    Alek,

    I am using #20 wire 1-filer coil.. coil diameter can be anything, I have tested on all, it will just give you high/low voltage but still works..

    number of turns were 600-700

    Imran

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  • alek
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    Hi Imran,
    Thx for posting!
    Can you please state which reed switch you used. And also coil diamater wourld be helpful. I want to replicate your experement as closely as possible. Your help would be appreciated.
    Thanks

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  • Joit
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    Hi, i think the Frequency depends on the Voltage, may turn it higher, and see if the Freq changes.
    I was about to ask myself if a change in the Freq does change anything.

    A poor Man Reedswitch can be made with 2 cutted Razorblades, or one Blade and a copper contact. If the attraction to the Iron is to weak, you can glue a little Magnet on the blade. The Contact can be made from other more solid Material too, because Copper can may a bit burn.

    Something else about the Reedswitch, they should work too, when you only bring them with one End into the Field,
    because the Metal inside will magnetize and make a Contact. So its not needed to got them directly in the middle from the Coil or very close to the Magnet
    Last edited by Joit; 04-07-2012, 08:26 AM.

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  • imranexpt
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    Originally posted by geotron View Post


    This looks to be producing energy at a substantial
    rate, in the range of 100kHz. The coil is 25g air cored, while
    the transistor is tip41c and the recovery capacitor is 470uF 50V.
    It doesn't seem to use more than around 100mA with a single transistor.

    Video : [ Solid-state Radiant Energy ]

    Thanks for replicating my way, now I know it really works..

    I am not sure about the frequency but higher/lower frequency can be obtained by moving magnet close/far from the reed switch.

    I did tried few steps,

    1. One coil, one reed switch one circuit, Anotehr circuit and coil is using same trigger, so two coils one trigger.. energy output is good

    2. Two coils, two separate circuits with two reeds one in each coil.. it produces way more energy than #1, I recovered a totally dead battery in two days (12v50AH) and can charge up batteries quickly..

    current reading of my setup was around 200-500 milli amps because I am using a higher AWG wire (#20)

    So this method giving higher output with lowest current usage..

    You seems to be using a tiny reed switch, it may not last longer, I have a double sized reed switch than yours which is running constantly from last couple of days..


    Imran

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  • Guest
    Guest replied


    This looks to be producing energy at a substantial
    rate, in the range of 100kHz. The coil is 25g air cored, while
    the transistor is tip41c and the recovery capacitor is 470uF 50V.
    It doesn't seem to use more than around 100mA with a single transistor.

    Video : [ Solid-state Radiant Energy ]

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