Eric Dollard

[jimm]

It was not necessary to dig up this evidence here, it is recent:


jimm scroll down to APPLICATION #6 to get a glimpse at what EFFICIENT 21st century science is all about.



What has my truth done for you lately?
Who cares jimm.

Must we all be Eric Dollard groupies?
I guess jimm thinks his kinda of brain is going to fix the problems of this world that his kind of brain created in the first place...?

My posts are targeting folks with an OPEN mind jimm, YOU don't need to read them or comment, just ignore me.
Do you think I read your posts or do I skip over them?
Take a guess.

jimm as the above quote suggests in the future Nano Light Mills that use swastika architecture will be able to UNZIP your DNA and maybe turn you into a moldy artifact to be dug up in the future and dusted off and promoted as something really important.

Have you considered that your artifacts may have ended up in the trash can and buried for a reason? They had to do something with garbage back in ancient times as well.
You have no reason to feel superior to Dollard. You both sell "sizzle" but have no steak!
I am not a groupie or cult joiner, so go hawk your swastika snake oil in your own thread where you belong. what? Is business slow over there?

I may get over there and give it a read as soon as I beam down from the starship that I built.

[Raphael37]

Well, I suppose we can dig up all kinds of moldy artifacts and declare them the "truth"...but what has your truth done for us lately other than rhetoric?

It was not necessary to dig up this evidence here, it is recent:


jimm scroll down to APPLICATION #6 to get a glimpse at what EFFICIENT 21st century science is all about.

What has my truth done for you lately?
Who cares jimm.

Must we all be Eric Dollard groupies?
I guess jimm thinks his kinda of brain is going to fix the problems of this world that his kind of brain created in the first place...?

My posts are targeting folks with an OPEN mind jimm, YOU don't need to read them or comment, just ignore me.
Do you think I read your posts or do I skip over them?
Take a guess.

jimm as the above quote suggests in the future Nano Light Mills that use swastika architecture will be able to UNZIP your DNA and maybe turn you into a moldy artifact to be dug up in the future and dusted off and promoted as something really important.

[xee2]

Aaron,
Thanks for posting the Eric Dollard interview. I hope you will be able to post more information about the radiant energy experiment.

[jimm]

getting closer to the same page...

The coil stands alone. It is tuned to resonate with the radio station frequency. Imagine now that you are energising the primary yourself, a detectable field is produced around the coil.

Now forget about energising it yourself, it's tuned to the radio station frequency. Now a similar action happens as before, a detectable field is produced around the coil, except now it's powered from the radio transmitter. In this field I place a wire or plate (C0 in diagram) leading to the detector/demodulator, and hear the signal.

Hence the coil is tuned as normal, the detector has no tuning, it merely detects the field that's produced around the tuned coil.

Yes as depicted in the diagram. The signal in the coil is the result of LC resonance. nothing special.

So as the original question, where is the antenna?

The top cap acts both as an isotropic dielectric antenna and tuning device.

The tuned coil is "radiating" the signal, the demodulator is "receiving" it in the field around the coil as if it was the antenna. Hence the TC is now effectively the transmitter as far as the demodulator is concerned. If people like to consider the TC as a overground Hertzian wave antenna, would one antenna allow the use of another antenna? If I put up a regular antenna, could I come along with my untuned demodulator near it and hear anything?

well here is where we kind of part company. since you are in close proximity
you are either capacity coupling with the plate or inductively coupling with the wire.

You would get the same effect if the long wire antenna in question was cut to a quarter wave length of the radio station's frequency but that would not have as high Q as the LC tank, so may need a bit stronger signal to work but since it is a larger "pickup" it may work fine. I'm not sure, it depends on terrain, signal strength, etc.

If you were close by the station, 10 feet of random wire would be sufficient.

[dR-Green]

We still are not exactly on the same page:
The tesla receiver represents tuned demodulation because the detector gets it's input from a tuned circuit.
Take away the tuned part ( Tesla receiver) and replace it with a random length of wire, then you have "untuned demodulation" where my example of possibly hearing several close by radio stations at the same time would happen.

Did you try it with a long wire antenna as the only input source????
I'm not sure what you did to get the untuned demodulation. Please be more specific.

The coil stands alone. It is tuned to resonate with the radio station frequency. Imagine now that you are energising the primary yourself, a detectable field is produced around the coil.

Now forget about energising it yourself, it's tuned to the radio station frequency. Now a similar action happens as before, a detectable field is produced around the coil, except now it's powered from the radio transmitter. In this field I place a wire or plate (C0 in diagram) leading to the detector/demodulator, and hear the signal.

Hence the coil is tuned as normal, the detector has no tuning, it merely detects the field that's produced around the tuned coil.

So as the original question, where is the antenna? The tuned coil is "radiating" the signal, the demodulator is "receiving" it in the field around the coil as if it was the antenna. Hence the TC is now effectively the transmitter as far as the demodulator is concerned. If people like to consider the TC as a overground Hertzian wave antenna, would one antenna allow the use of another antenna? If I put up a regular antenna, could I come along with my untuned demodulator near it and hear anything?

[jimm]

words get in the way.

Precisely. Which leads to the point, its signal source is effectively the Tesla receiver. The Tesla receiver's signal source is the grounded AM transmitter. The tuning is done through the Tesla receiver, hence allowing for "untuned demodulation" with the section that you identified as the detector/demodulator much further from the transmitter. Hence my "untuned demodulator" works at 84km.

Yes thanks for the suggestion, I've gotten better results by using different diodes, worse with others.

We still are not exactly on the same page:
The tesla receiver represents tuned demodulation because the detector gets it's input from a tuned circuit.
Take away the tuned part ( Tesla receiver) and replace it with a random length of wire, then you have "untuned demodulation" where my example of possibly hearing several close by radio stations at the same time would happen.

Did you try it with a long wire antenna as the only input source????
I'm not sure what you did to get the untuned demodulation. Please be more specific.

[jimm]

So Eric's theory is based on 4 quadrants?
Is that correct?

And one of the most popular threads on this forum discusses ASYMMETRY?

And Jung believed meditating on mandalas based on 4-fold or quaternary geometry was the best way for an individual to achieve 'individuation'.

So here is the simpleton premise that I feel SMART/INTUITIVE ENGINEERS should heed based on a particular 'geometry' that has been passed forward since 10,000 BCE.

This image of a 'swastika' is the world's oldest swastika found to date, found in the Mezine, Ukraine dated to 10,000 BCE.



Note the world's oldest swastika on record has 4 quadrants.
Please note the ASYMMETRY that I have highlighted in orange ... I did not change any of the lines.

555 vs. 5
SSS vs. S
(world's tallest obelisk - the Washington Monument is 555 feet tall btw)

So were the ancients aware of ASYMMETRY?
Yes they were in fact!

Rene Schwaller deLubicz made the observation in 1949 that the Egyptians abhorred SYMMETRY!
And it was not until 1956 that the 4 forces were defined as ASYMMETRIC!

It is a FACT that Einstein was not aware of the ASYMMETRY of the 4 forces in 1905, and neither are most of the fellas on this forum aware of how IMPORTANT the concept of ASYMMETRY is to designing a device that is highly EFFICIENT....forget FREE...how about we first shoot for EFFICIENCY!!!!!!!!!!!

your egos wanting to be recognized as the savior of humanity by producing FREE ENERGY is a joke....your ego is a yoke.

SWASTIKA NANO technologies are ALREADY proving their EFFICIENCY....

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/13982-my-asymmetric-swastika-nano-machines.html

In other words fellas there are SWASTIKA NANO APPLICATIONS in the 21st century that suggest your efforts on this forum are a waste of time.

While 'we the sheeple' dream of a FREE LUNCH in the relative macro world ... dinner is being served in the invisible quantum microcosm.


selah

p.s.
Einstein was not aware of ASYMMETRY in 1905.
Einstein was not aware of dark energy or dark matter in 1955 when he died...

...Thus Einstein was 'ignorant' of what comprises 95% of the universe AND that the building blocks used on ALL levels of scaling appear to be ASYMMETRIC.

Well, I suppose we can dig up all kinds of moldy artifacts and declare them the "truth"...but what has your truth done for us lately other than rhetoric?

[Raphael37]

So Eric's theory is based on 4 quadrants?
Is that correct?

And one of the most popular threads on this forum discusses ASYMMETRY?

And Jung believed meditating on mandalas based on 4-fold or quaternary geometry was the best way for an individual to achieve 'individuation'.

So here is the simpleton premise that I feel SMART/INTUITIVE ENGINEERS should heed based on a particular 'geometry' that has been passed forward since 10,000 BCE.

This image of a 'swastika' is the world's oldest swastika found to date, found in the Mezine, Ukraine dated to 10,000 BCE.



Note the world's oldest swastika on record has 4 quadrants.
Please note the ASYMMETRY that I have highlighted in orange ... I did not change any of the lines.

555 vs. 5
SSS vs. S
(world's tallest obelisk - the Washington Monument is 555 feet tall btw)

So were the ancients aware of ASYMMETRY?
Yes they were in fact!

Rene Schwaller deLubicz made the observation in 1949 that the Egyptians abhorred SYMMETRY!
And it was not until 1956 that the 4 forces were defined as ASYMMETRIC!

It is a FACT that Einstein was not aware of the ASYMMETRY of the 4 forces in 1905, and neither are most of the fellas on this forum aware of how IMPORTANT the concept of ASYMMETRY is to designing a device that is highly EFFICIENT....forget FREE...how about we first shoot for EFFICIENCY!!!!!!!!!!!

your egos wanting to be recognized as the savior of humanity by producing FREE ENERGY is a joke....your ego is a yoke.

SWASTIKA NANO technologies are ALREADY proving their EFFICIENCY....

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/13982-my-asymmetric-swastika-nano-machines.html

In other words fellas there are SWASTIKA NANO APPLICATIONS in the 21st century that suggest your efforts on this forum are a waste of time.

While 'we the sheeple' dream of a FREE LUNCH in the relative macro world ... dinner is being served in the invisible quantum microcosm.


selah

p.s.
Einstein was not aware of ASYMMETRY in 1905.
Einstein was not aware of dark energy or dark matter in 1955 when he died...

...Thus Einstein was 'ignorant' of what comprises 95% of the universe AND that the building blocks used on ALL levels of scaling appear to be ASYMMETRIC.

[brusers]

Re..

What cable do you mean?

Hello again,

I meant the sensitivity around the secondary coil, as you put your body close to it, and the center frequency changes..

I was watching Eric's old video on Tesla's Longitudinal waves,
Eric Dollard - Tesla's Longitudinal Dielectricity (Scalar Demonstrations & Wireless Transmission)(360p_VP8-Vorbis) - YouTube

At 51 minutes in he starts talking about the two peaks.
For that given build he states:
1.875 MHz Resonant frequency A, predominately transverse
2.945 MHz Resonant frequency B, predominately longitudinal
Any coil, radio transmitter, receiver will have both components.
Depending on mode of input, the receiver can receive through the ground or an aerial.

Then he states what I was considering..
If the parasitic capacitance in the coil are reduced to a very small value, then only the transverse wave will predominate, and the longitudinal will disappear.

Then he refers to his 4 quadrant equations, etc, explaining the 4 constants that make up the two resonant peaks. Which I really need to start looking over.. The math I mean. It would probably clear up a whole lot trying to decide how to engineer these coils.

So I will try to find some local or nearby AM station, and start from scratch. When I get something tangible to show, I will post my pics and data. Thanks for the replies.

@Geometric Algebra, looking impressive. Thanks for posting your info.

Br,

Marcel

[Geometric_Algebra]

Pri/Sec + E.C. + Terminal Capacity System Testing







Expanded view of first resonant peak:









Notes:

1. Secondary Design Summary:
D=20in=0.508m
N=30 turns
L=pi*D*N= 47.877m
lambda/4: 47.878m
lambda: 4*(47.878)= 191.5m
f=c/lambda=2.998E8/191.5= 1566kcps
(2/pi)*f= 998 kcps

2. Extra Coil Design Summary:
D=8in (0.2032m)
N=46 turns
L=pi*D*N= 29.37m
lambda/4: 29.37m
lambda: 4*(29.37m)=117.5m
f=c/lambda = 2.998E8/117.48 = 2552 kcps
(pi/2)*f= 4009 kcps
3289/2552=1.289 => 128.9%

3. Adjustable split ring, 0.080" solid copper wire loops of 20" diameter mounted in base fixture 0.375" above secondary; top ring adjustable in 3/16" increments relative to base fixture. Adjustable plates fastened with 4-40 nylon bolts. Separation distance set to 1.125" for this experiment.
4. Primary loop(s) excited with 6sn7 triode driver circuit (based on Eric's design) (approx 100v plate voltage).
5. Current measured via field intensity meter: Simpson 270, 50uA range, 1n34 diode, 2.425" diameter pcb disc terminal
6. Primary capacitor: 5nf experimental made of pcb plates.
7. Ground is 10 ft (?) welding cable + 5 copper rods.

[dR-Green]

To do "untuned demodulation" with just an antenna may require a closer signal source, though.

Precisely. Which leads to the point, its signal source is effectively the Tesla receiver. The Tesla receiver's signal source is the grounded AM transmitter. The tuning is done through the Tesla receiver, hence allowing for "untuned demodulation" with the section that you identified as the detector/demodulator much further from the transmitter. Hence my "untuned demodulator" works at 84km.

Yes thanks for the suggestion, I've gotten better results by using different diodes, worse with others.

[jimm]

That is to say, the signal that I'm receiving through the detector/demodulator isn't simply sprouting there out of thin air, it obviously got there somehow for it to be detectable. Therefore the question stands that if I was to replace this whole setup with standard radio equipment, would a detector do anything simply through placing it near the receiving antenna?

What are you replacing and with what "standard radio equipment"?
You will have to be a lot more specific.
I thought I answered the conditions and what would happen two posts ago pretty well, but perhaps I am not understanding the question.

The signal got there by bouncing off the ionosphere using the earth common.
Standard radio and the Tesla setup work the same way in this instance.
As I said initially, this is nothing more than a variant of the "foxhole radio" or simple Chrystal set that kids have built for decades. Google it.
Try the experiments that I suggested if you doubt what I say.
To do "untuned demodulation" with just an antenna may require a closer signal source, though. If you lived in a big city it would be easy.
As long as you get enough AM signal to drive the headphones, that circuit will demodulate it.
Btw, modern schotkey diodes are more efficient detectors for weak signals than the old germanium types.

I hope this helped.

[dR-Green]

The TC top cap, if I understand the question...

I'm not sure if you didn't understand the question or if I don't understand your answer.

I mean, in order to receive a radio signal, supposedly, you need to stick an antenna in the air.

You say in the diagram there is only a tank circuit and demodulator. So I say where is the antenna?

That is to say, the signal that I'm receiving through the detector/demodulator isn't simply sprouting there out of thin air, it obviously got there somehow for it to be detectable. Therefore the question stands that if I was to replace this whole setup with standard radio equipment, would a detector do anything simply through placing it near the receiving antenna?

So you only hear one?
You certainly aren't lighting any bulbs from that transmitter!

I can tune it to a few others but one is stronger and the coil I had happened to be the right wire length, I know the frequency, radio station and transmitter location so that's the only one I'm interested in.

[jimm]

If that is so, where is the receiving antenna?

The TC top cap, if I understand the question...

The transmitter is 84km away.

So you only hear one?
You certainly aren't lighting any bulbs from that transmitter!

[dR-Green]

Well, it depends... First of all the tesla coil is the "tank circuit" for the setup you have. Without it, you only have a demodulator.

If that is so, where is the receiving antenna?

However if there is a strong em modulated signal nearby, you will hear it

The transmitter is 84km away.