Eric Dollard

[orgonaut314]

Wow, uh, that may be one device i will avoid making. Brings new meaning to the words "bowel shaking"

Yes I understand that Tesla is using an air spring and loose coupling just like we do with our electrical coils. Probable he is using an a frequentie of pi/2 times c devided by the length of the building he wants to shake

[d3x0r]

Hello all;

After reading a couple Eric's books (lone pine and 4 quad ) I understand what I'm seeing in my own bench.

for example why 1:1 coils generate 10x output voltage.

I had some questions; I went back some pages in the thread to at least get aclimated...

Nice coils; litz wire I think does have less surface than solid; but that has to do with fractal geometry where the space is more like cm^2/3...like a shore line is 1 dimensional - it has a length, but because that length is dispersed through a second dimension it's like 1.001 dimensional the closer it is to straight... but it doesn't matter A whole lot I would think; the number of conductors is going to be a multiplier on turns ... or individual participants of the flux change.... but then given that they're grouped are they a composite that is one? or a multiple that is 8? anyway I dunno

I dunno on the books, I kinda felt in spots like he would lead up to a point where understanding was to a level to take in more, then he would stop just before the application; Then I found some more in appendix 2...took a break for a while to reflect.

He suggests that there are dynamic changes in LC in tesla's apparatus that result in changes in (apparent power)... but doesn't really point to the... changes leaving one to theorize....

On falstad's circuit simulator there's 'trapazoial approxiamtion' as an option.... I assume that's an implementation of the sloped graph composites at page 297 of 4 quad? I know; noone knows, and it's out of any one else's context.

Anyone done a software simulator of eric's presented theory which is a laymans expression of steinmetz, maxwell, heisenburg (no that was a different show) et al. would think it wouldn't break as badly as my circuits break SPICE for instance.

That other thread of DrGreen's looks informative too and not so greek as it used to be

This interchange that happens... while at a macro scale of microseconds, in what I experience as a resonant circuit... are all of the phases happening all the time in subintervals?

How do material characteristics apply? The permability of vaccuum vs crystal nanoperm ferrite? I dunno operating cycles/curves of common parts might be nice someday

Any change a technical analysis of Hendershot generator could be done?

http://www.hendershotgenerator.com/files/pdf/hendershot_book.pdf

There's a russian replication that simplifies the schematic...

http://zaryad.com/2012/12/29/sborka-generatora-hendershota-svoimi-rukami/

(in russian) but mostly just a visual demonstration with terribly annoying music
assembly from 0 to power - YouTube
(at power point 2:23:31 )

may have to go through translate.google.com, or use chrome or other auto translator...

It's a pretty simple LC circuit.

[dR-Green]

Just a quick question, has anyone thought to replicate gustave le bon's experiments using these tesla coils everybody's making here?

On page 207 of "the evolution of matter" Is the setup. Looks simple!

I don't know what Eric or John have in mind exactly but I think a CIG would be quite suitable for something like that.

[dward]

Wow, uh, that may be one device i will avoid making. Brings new meaning to the words "bowel shaking"

[orgonaut314]

Interesting I'm reading the chapter on J.J. Thomson explaining the variabel mass of charged particles with the magnetic field saying that the ether mass is in fact causing the inertia.

About ether vibrations and health I found this by Tesla:

I think Tesla is not speaking about normal vibrations but about vibrations in the ether?

MECHANICAL THERAPY
But a few minutes later some of us, who had stayed longer on the platform, felt an unspeakable and pressing necessity which had to be promptly satisfied, and then a stupendous truth dawned upon me.

Evidently, these isochronous rapid oscillations stimulated powerfully the peristaltic movements which propel the food-stuffs through the alimentary channels. A means was thus provided whereby their contents can be perfectly regulated and controlled at will, and without the use of drugs, specific remedies or internal applications whatever.

Nikola Tesla: Mechanical Oscillator ~ US Patent # 514,169 & # 517,900 ~ Tele-Geodynamics

[dward]

Just a quick question, has anyone thought to replicate gustave le bon's experiments using these tesla coils everybody's making here?

On page 207 of "the evolution of matter" Is the setup. Looks simple!

[orgonaut314]

Absolutely! Only recently I came to appreciate what kind of power unit JPolakow is building. Will be a hell of a CIG thing. Hope they don't split the cosmos

[dR-Green]

Just got back from spending a few days at EPD Laboratories with Eric, John P. and others. Have some pics and videos and other exciting things to post, but have to catch up on some sleep. Only 4 hours of sleep and almost 1000 miles (that is only one way) so will post soon as I can!

Looking forward to seeing all that!

[dR-Green]

Hi dR-Green thinking of the performance issue I realized that Eric said that the impedance should be low in the secondary does this not meen that if we make the coil to fast with to little burden capacity the impedance will go up to much? Makes me think that the magic is in the 2/pi burden?

Z = square root of L/C. I don't think there is an answer to your question because what is "too much"? What is "just right"? By adjusting the inductance and capacitance in proportion you can maintain a constant impedance. But no one knows what it should be.

The "burden capacitance" is a result of the wire itself, inter-turn capacitance, insulation, coil frame etc. The optimum space between each turn of wire is 62% the conductor diameter. I think ideally there should be no burden capacitance but that's impossible, so to me the data is to be used as a form of "compensation" to be able to design around it and still end up at the desired values. For example, if you design for a certain frequency, then ideally it should work at that frequency. So the "margin of error" needs to be made known, and then you can adjust your design to compensate for it.

The 2/Pi is the ratio of the secondary conductor length relative to a normal 1/4 wave conductor length, again to compensate for the difference and to bring the frequency back to the intended value. But that's (2/Pi) theoretical and wasn't based on any experimental data at that point, and the extent to which the extra coil burdens the secondary in that situation is unknown. The idea is to have the secondary operate at 100% F when everything else is ALSO in place. So the question in this case is how much of a burden is everything on the secondary to be able to make it work at the intended frequency.

I think it's possible that there may be some physical effects on the body but I don't know. I've noticed things that I'm not convinced isn't my imagination so I've kept quiet on the matter until someone else mentions the same thing. But I also got some headaches, but it's impossible to say whether it was related or not. If there is an effect then I would think that the tuning would be quite an important factor in what effect it would have. In fact I think there are potentially a lot of interesting possibilities, but there isn't enough information out there so we will have to do it ourselves and discover whatever may or may not be possible experimentally. The old fashioned way.

[orgonaut314]

Acrylic, fibreglass or PVC rods will be better than wood, but I'm not sure that the type of wood has much of an effect. Although I tend to use hardwood dowels rather than pine dowels because of the resin in pine, it doesn't seem a good idea.

Your suggestion was the idea behind this thread:

http://www.energeticforum.com/eric-dollard-official-forum/11918-tesla-magnifying-transmitter-eric-dollard-type-coils-compendium.html

But no one else posted anything, and it got pretty big with all the images. The best idea is probably to make a new thread for each build to keep everything organised, multiple builds posted in the same thread could get pretty confusing.

Isn't it interesting how Tesla is everyone's hero, but as soon as they have some useful information to be able to do something productive the people disappear

Hi dR-Green thinking of the performance issue I realized that Eric said that the impedance should be low in the secondary does this not meen that if we make the coil to fast with to little burden capacity the impedance will go up to much? Makes me think that the magic is in the 2/pi burden?

One other thing. I have this coil resonating close to me a while now and I do think some bodily effects are occurring. Does this coil work a little like a Lakhovsky antenna? Do the ether vibrations energize the body?

I was hoping on something like that so I'm not completely without bias. From other research we found that it was important to use the right materials when orgon is involved. The way I test the material is with a pendel. Yes I do I know certain materials to have a toxicating effect. In this design I chose the lacquer of the secondary to be of a very old transformer, not the modern type of lacquer. I do not use aluminum, the primary now is a gold coated copper wire. Don't know how important this all is because it is all an experiment but I turn the coil on several hour's a day now and feel great, energized!
Disclaimer: This coil does not in any way improve the health! (so else I will end in prison )

Now I'm going for the primary as an orgon canon with the tube driver by GeometricA!

Thanks! Tesla said he even healed with his mechanical vibration machines. I don't think the healing aspect of the coils came as a surprise to him?

Hope Eric has something to say on this 'declaimer: not healing' part of the coil

[dR-Green]

(but it might also be a better construction with different kind of wood and lacquer?)

Could we not make a thread with only the coils and their measurements for easy comparing? On the other hand there are not that much coils around

Acrylic, fibreglass or PVC rods will be better than wood, but I'm not sure that the type of wood has much of an effect. Although I tend to use hardwood dowels rather than pine dowels because of the resin in pine, it doesn't seem a good idea.

Your suggestion was the idea behind this thread:

http://www.energeticforum.com/eric-dollard-official-forum/11918-tesla-magnifying-transmitter-eric-dollard-type-coils-compendium.html

But no one else posted anything, and it got pretty big with all the images. The best idea is probably to make a new thread for each build to keep everything organised, multiple builds posted in the same thread could get pretty confusing.

Isn't it interesting how Tesla is everyone's hero, but as soon as they have some useful information to be able to do something productive the people disappear

[orgonaut314]

Ok, thank you for the answers. I get most numbers and some I will calculate further on.

A quick measurement showed the self inductance was pretty accurate, I measured 154 uH.

The litz wire diameter is 0,25 mm the max solid diameter was calculated as 0,29 mm. It is very cheap also

But I understand that the rg178 performs even better (but it might also be a better construction with different kind of wood and lacquer?)

Could we not make a thread with only the coils and their measurements for easy comparing? On the other hand there are not that much coils around

Thanks guys

[dR-Green]

Orgonaut secondary coil analysis

Diameter = 25.5cm
Height = 5.1cm
Number Of Turns = 20

Conductor length = 16.02 Metres
Luminal Wavelength = 64.08 Metres

Free Space Propagation = 102%
Measured Propagation = 68.62%

Free Space Frequency = 4771.345 kc
Luminal Frequency = 4677.789 kc
Measured Frequency = 3210 kc

Self Capacitance = 17.85pF
Burdened Capacitance = 39.43pF

Effective Capacitance for sine quarter wave distribution:
Steinmetz = 25.1pF
Miller = 31.96pF

Self Inductance = 154.45µH

Effective Inductance for cosine quarter wave current distribution:
Steinmetz = 98.32µH
Miller = 77.22µH

Characteristic Impedance:
Steinmetz = 1978.98 Ohms
Miller = 1554.28 Ohms

[Geometric_Algebra]

Ok, I think these are the numbers.

V_lum = 299.792.458 m/s (speed of light)
eta_free=1,02 (height / diameter coil is 0,2) (from the table)
V_free = 305788307 m/s (eta_free * V_lum)

This gives:
F_free = 3037935 Hz (2/pi*V_free/4L)(L= Length wire =16,02 m)

Measured:
F_measured = 3210000 Hz
This gives:
V_measured = 323107777 m/s (pi/2*F_measured*4L)

eta_measured = 1,08 (V_measured/V_free=F_measured/F_free)

So eta_measured is larger than eta_free. The measured speed is faster than the free speed. The measured frequency was higher than the calculated frequency!

r = 0,94 (eta_free/eta_measured)
So Cb is smaler than C self.
Now there might be a small difference in aspect ratio because the 8 corners are not a real circle to explain for the smaler than one ratio but I think the conclusion could be that this litz wire does very little burden the coil with capacity!
I believe Eric said the effective surface area is smaller with litz wire.

I like your thoughts regarding the ratios, but I don't think the 2/pi should propagate beyond the original design length.

The conductor length is fixed at 16.02m (from the 2/pi scaled design frequency quarter wave length). Right?
This gives f_free=Vlum/(4*L)=2.998e8/(4*16.02)=4.678Mc.
You measured f_measured=3.21Mc.
which gives f_measured/f_free=3.21/4.678=0.686

On my 3.0Mc system secondary, I measured something like 3.8Mc with a free space frequency of 4.3Mc, which gives the ratio 3.8/4.3=0.875.

What is the outer diameter of that litz wire?

[orgonaut314]

Ok I did some reading and now understand that the 2/pi is an estimate of the burden for the secondary coil pfffffffff
So I can only conclude it is burdened but performs a little better than estimated and I will go on with the extra coil using the same litz.