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  • madhatter
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    I watched most of the video, one part stood out.
    That is, Plancks Constant as defined per a physicist definition:
    Originally posted by Eric
    "it's a union between a one unit of magnetism and one unit of dielectricty which produces one unit of electromagnetism, because all electrostatic lines of force are faraday tubes and they all have the same size, that causes it to be quantified."
    Unless I missed something major in school Planck's constant is a proportionality constant, the energy of a single photon in relation to the frequency of it's electromagnetic radiation.
    The energy E contained in a photon, which represents the smallest possible 'packet' of energy in an electromagnetic wave, is directly proportional to the frequency f according to the following equation:

    E = hf
    If E is given in joules and f is given in hertz (the unit measure of frequency), then:
    E = (6.626176 x 10-34) f
    and conversely:
    f = E / (6.626176 x 10-34)

    in other words it's the smallest amount of unit energy. Now I'll be the first to say I don't like the use of term 'particle' it implies a physical 'chunk' of matter, nothing could be further from the truth. in reality it's a field of energy, in this case the planck is the smallest 'field' unit of energy. the photoelectric effect can be used to measure this.
    orbitals are energy levels not physical orbits, a lot of the early terms we are stuck with, it was the natural progression from 'mechanics' but it also trips up a lot of people and esp the laymen as it conjures up images of planets etc.. also didn't help that many diagrams also utilize such things too.

    it also has many uses in optical communications via the photoelectric effect and the ability to measure and control the energy levels with photons.

    I'll ask this, if you don't like Planck's constant, what of the photon?

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  • Aaron
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    Eric Dollard Answers Facebook Questions

    Eric Dollard answers latest questions asked on his Facebook page:
    Eric Dollard - Answers Facebook Questions - 2014-02-23 - YouTube

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  • Atlas
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    Originally posted by upgradd View Post
    I would be honored if you took the time to point out where or what exactly I'm missing.

    I get that Tesla believed in a Pi/2 velocity, he also chalks it up to being like a shadow moving acrost a spherical object, which is in the realm of perspective geometry--a fascinating subject. He never gives a valid scientific answer as to how his wave propagation really worked. He convinced Helmholtz yes, but not Heaviside--who thought Helmholtz' (Tesla inspired) longitudinal model was all but useful. Can you explain how Tesla's longitudinal waves work?

    In general, outside of Coulomb oscillations, longitudinal wave propagation through vacuum is considered as impossible. Could it be possible for longitudinal waves to propagate in some "other space?" Probably. But not vacuum in our 4-space--matter is required for longitudinal waves to exist, which isn't true for EM waves.

    Something of interest in regard to longitudinal waves, is that they are known to exist in plasma, with special reference to odd conditions that have no Poyntine flux (the matter moves the energy, instead of photons). The conditions for this mode of oscillation might be possible in coils, however a free-space longitudinal wave doesn't exist. I.e. your not going to bounce "scalar waves" off the moon and detect them back here on earth.

    Personally, I think people are better off experimenting with plasma tubes than 1940s era coils. Don't get me wrong, coils are fun, but more is known about longitudinal waves in plasma than in RF coils.
    Only thing I can advise is to watch Eric's presentations, to read the material he recommends and to perhaps do the experiments for one's self.

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  • mikrovolt
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    Here are some ramblings, feedback a simple minded approach or reproach.

    The solar system is a pseudo-circuit. An L-wave can travel over a laminated resonating coil from primary to secondary thus a one wire is a subset.
    Earth's Magnetic Shield




    The earth is an oblate spheroid. A gravity wave going inside the atmosphere can exert force pulling outward along the hemisphere to make the oceans rise. A more intense gravity wave can interact with the earth producing shockwaves.
    PreyFiles.com - Picture of The Day

    As a rough model let the earth be the baked potato in the picture and the fingers be the flux of solar flair a vast ocean of solar wind exerting force inward so as to squish the potato inward.



    Fortunately the inward and outward are absorbed and allow the earth to stay intact. The the flux lines both inward and outward that emanate from the earth are making atmospheric sounds as a bell being struck. evidence of solar pseudo-circuit. CONNECTED normally on but sometimes disconnected then reconnected to our a big capacitor. The visual here like distributor contacts opening briefly.

    I have been trying to find an inexpensive model to examine ?
    The latest Slayer coils are inexpensive and very efficient design that works and is available off shelf. ( Would this work ? ) I think it is interesting. I think his work also deserves credit is less shocking and lends itself well to proof and refinement of our math, also is another avenue to get repeatability in quantitative analysis out there that people have access to. The Dollard program is full scale and we should be honing our skills as the project moves forward.

    Simulation of Naudin replication of Dollard transmission line has been awaiting subroutines awhile. used this to develope a transistor oscillator uses nichrome output coil to wave shape pulse to an asymptotic wave.
    Attached Files
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  • dR-Green
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    Originally posted by Sputins View Post
    Great video, particularly how you show the various ways which the light bulbs can light. The light bulb lighting up via the soil in a bucket is a fine demonstration. - I’ll have to try some of those tricks myself.

    It reminded me of that wonderful scene from the horrible movie, ‘The Prestige’.
    Thanks. I would say that the soil in a bucket behaves very similar if not exactly the same as the earth itself in some respects, the main difference being that the earth "absorbs" the energy a lot more effectively, but other than the amount of power required for that reason, the most notable effects are practically identical. A few minutes ago, using the same amount of power that was used in the video I lit the smallest lamp that's in the video VERY dimly (through holding it) on the earth terminal in the garden with the transmitter connected to it. But as noted before, when transmitting signals with even less power than this (and the old coils) an audible signal is quite easily picked up with no physical connection either through a tuned receiver or a simple AV plug with crystal earpiece up to possibly a 6 metre diameter area surrounding the transmitter earth terminal, and up to a certain distance an AV plug can be plugged into the earth to power LEDs, so no doubt as much as my body capacitance was allowing the filament to light very dimly, the whole thing was also effectively shorted out through me standing on the ground right next to the earth terminal. But otherwise the bucket allows for experimenting with similar things with less power. You should be able to get reasonable light from the earth terminal with small bulbs at least with your (more powerful) amp, that should be good.

    This film isn't so bad, I think the bulbs in a field scene is what inspired me to try the soil in a bucket to begin with.

    The Secret Of Nikola Tesla-movie - YouTube

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  • upgradd
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    Originally posted by Atlas View Post
    All very interesting.
    But I would simply suggest you go back and read the Nikola Tesla and the Alexanderson work in their own words. I would also suggest going back and reading the previous posts which will take some time.

    You seem to miss the point of the theory Eric is talking about and the point Tesla himself was making back in 1892 or so in those lectures which are easily read on-line.

    You can of course disagree with Tesla himself, plenty of people did and still do.
    I would be honored if you took the time to point out where or what exactly I'm missing.

    I get that Tesla believed in a Pi/2 velocity, he also chalks it up to being like a shadow moving acrost a spherical object, which is in the realm of perspective geometry--a fascinating subject. He never gives a valid scientific answer as to how his wave propagation really worked. He convinced Helmholtz yes, but not Heaviside--who thought Helmholtz' (Tesla inspired) longitudinal model was all but useful. Can you explain how Tesla's longitudinal waves work?

    In general, outside of Coulomb oscillations, longitudinal wave propagation through vacuum is considered as impossible. Could it be possible for longitudinal waves to propagate in some "other space?" Probably. But not vacuum in our 4-space--matter is required for longitudinal waves to exist, which isn't true for EM waves.

    Something of interest in regard to longitudinal waves, is that they are known to exist in plasma, with special reference to odd conditions that have no Poyntine flux (the matter moves the energy, instead of photons). The conditions for this mode of oscillation might be possible in coils, however a free-space longitudinal wave doesn't exist. I.e. your not going to bounce "scalar waves" off the moon and detect them back here on earth.

    Personally, I think people are better off experimenting with plasma tubes than 1940s era coils. Don't get me wrong, coils are fun, but more is known about longitudinal waves in plasma than in RF coils.
    Last edited by upgradd; 02-25-2014, 02:41 AM.

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  • Aether
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    Originally posted by Atlas View Post
    All very interesting.
    But I would simply suggest you go back and read the Nikola Tesla and the Alexanderson work in their own words. I would also suggest going back and reading the previous posts which will take some time.

    You seem to miss the point of the theory Eric is talking about and the point Tesla himself was making back in 1892 or so in those lectures which are easily read on-line.

    You can of course disagree with Tesla himself, plenty of people did and still do.
    Ya I think a point Eric has been making is the fact that current mathematics can`t properly analyze the tesla transformer because it only looks at one half of the picture, ie bipolar as opposed to quadrapolar, perhaps I`m wrong on this?

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  • Aaron
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    Bell Telephone

    Originally posted by Sputins View Post
    Nice to see some data from JP’s CIG.
    There is a lot more to come - John P. will be posting it all soon - more graphs and a write up of the details.

    I'll be posting some more pics and even video of the Bell Telephone system. It was a TRIP! It seriously was like Willy Wonka's Electronics Factory. Was expecting some Oompa Loompas with pocket protectors and multimeters to pop out of nowhere and start doing cartwheels down the isles.

    There was a program running to simulate a lot of phone calls on rotary dial phones - all the relays chattering, etc...

    The man who put all that together and rewired MANY 10's of thousands of individual connectors has some serious talent. Was cool - drove up to the front of the driveway to his home and was met with a railway crossing that opened up to let me in.

    Those pics are mostly of the 1960's era phone system I believe - he had all decades.

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  • Sputins
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    Originally posted by dR-Green View Post
    The (transmitting) coil is tuned to the design frequency of 1860 kc, but the tuning of the primary and secondary is not yet optimised. Transmitter is used alone in the video with focus on single wire filament lamp lighting as well as completely wireless operation of same through capacitive coupling to/from garden soil in a bucket.

    Tesla Magnifying Transmitter - Colorado Springs Scale Model 1860 kc - Single Wire & Wireless Light - YouTube

    An empty coke can used as capacitance on the lamp for reference of its size. Obviously bigger objects/surface areas yield better results.
    Great video, particularly how you show the various ways which the light bulbs can light. The light bulb lighting up via the soil in a bucket is a fine demonstration. - I’ll have to try some of those tricks myself.

    It reminded me of that wonderful scene from the horrible movie, ‘The Prestige’.

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  • Atlas
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    Originally posted by upgradd View Post
    As a quick supplement my last message:

    S, in general, can be thought to represents the photon, the basic idea of energy. So when talking about a solenoidal resonator, if there is "energy" present there is a Poyntine vector, and there can certainly be more than one Poyntine vector at any one time. To say that it has canceled out is at best misleading, unless further explained. The only condition that would allow for such is when energy just up and disappears, blinking out of existence so to speak. An unusual situation which may or may not be possible depending upon the circumstances.

    If the situation is as you say, non-electromagnetic, I would agree that there could be no Poyntine vector, since there could be no EM energy without one. The questions one comes to after the contemplation of such an event, would be what form does the EM energy take? How does it traverse through space? How does one convert it back to EM?

    If the purported condition is real, energy in the form of a photon, has either a second form or space for its movement. From your original comment, It would appear you believe in the latter.

    For the FLT "beliebers", this "other space" has one of three possibilities: 1) speed of the photon is = C (most likely), 2) speed of the photon is >C (highly unlikely), 3) There is no velocity as distance is zero or time is zero (more likely than 2).

    Regardless of "what if" excursions and terse comments, there is indeed a Poyntine flux in a solenoid resonator. It is possible that some energy is "displaced" though another space, but it doesn't mean the entire S flux has altogether disappeared.
    All very interesting.
    But I would simply suggest you go back and read the Nikola Tesla and the Alexanderson work in their own words. I would also suggest going back and reading the previous posts which will take some time.

    You seem to miss the point of the theory Eric is talking about and the point Tesla himself was making back in 1892 or so in those lectures which are easily read on-line.

    You can of course disagree with Tesla himself, plenty of people did and still do.

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  • Sputins
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    Originally posted by T-rex View Post


    This is a graph of recent experiments with the Cosmic Induction Generator at EPD Laboratories, Inc. The curves indicate the disappearance of energy into counter space or what the physicists would call a different dimension.

    This counter space exists in the neutral plane between the two coils. This is the place where the galaxies originate. It appears we have a dimensional transformer.
    It’s been very interesting to see all the pictures of the various Rat Camps, Landing zones and the secret Bell Telephone installation. - Something not really seen on the forum before! Certainly there is some beautiful wilderness out there, absolutely stunning! The Corolla looks in really good shape, now that the pictures show it more clearly. I love the ‘V - whiskers’ out on the front.

    Nice to see some data from JP’s CIG. From the graph the dip in RF amps and plate current seen at 2.1-2.15Mc (at resonance I assume), one would normally see the field intensity peak here, (with a single coil), but since two coils are facing each other / interacting, the field intensity drops at a certain frequency, right on 2.1Mc. – Energy disappearance into counter space. This using just the Primary Tank & Secondary coils. – I’ll have to get the other half of my TMT cranking real soon.

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  • upgradd
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    As a quick supplement my last message:

    S, in general, can be thought to represents the photon, the basic idea of energy. So when talking about a solenoidal resonator, if there is "energy" present there is a Poyntine vector, and there can certainly be more than one Poyntine vector at any one time. To say that it has canceled out is at best misleading, unless further explained. The only condition that would allow for such is when energy just up and disappears, blinking out of existence so to speak. An unusual situation which may or may not be possible depending upon the circumstances.

    If the situation is as you say, non-electromagnetic, I would agree that there could be no Poyntine vector, since there could be no EM energy without one. The questions one comes to after the contemplation of such an event, would be what form does the EM energy take? How does it traverse through space? How does one convert it back to EM?

    If the purported condition is real, energy in the form of a photon, has either a second form or space for its movement. From your original comment, It would appear you believe in the latter.

    For the FLT "beliebers", this "other space" has one of three possibilities: 1) speed of the photon is = C (most likely), 2) speed of the photon is >C (highly unlikely), 3) There is no velocity as distance is zero or time is zero (more likely than 2).

    Regardless of "what if" excursions and terse comments, there is indeed a Poyntine flux in a solenoid resonator. It is possible that some energy is "displaced" though another space, but it doesn't mean the entire S flux has altogether disappeared.
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  • upgradd
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    Originally posted by T-rex View Post
    There is no Poynting Vector on a resonant transformer - it is cancelled out.

    Electromagnetic relations cannot be utilized in this situation.

    There is no velocity in space. The velocity is in counter space in per cm per second.

    73 DE N6KPH
    This is not necessarily true, considering the answer depends upon how you examine the situation.

    Electrical resonance in its most basic form is a "trap" for electrical energy. For a transmission line, this trap consists of two boundaries, the source and the load. Since the Tesla transformer "transmission line" has an impedance mismatch between its source and load, energy is reflected back to the source. That is, the initial propagating wave cannot keep moving forward, as one would expect for an infinite line or a line terminated resistively at its natural impedance. Thus we have TWO Poyntine vectors: one moving forward and one backwards.

    The superposition of these two waves mathematically sum to form a so called "standing wave." At this point, the nature of the Poyntine vector becomes obscured from this condition. It is however not a complete enigma. Rather than a divergence of S at the end of the line, like a resistively loaded line, we see a continuous circulation of S in the resonant structure, with a minor amount of divergence therein from ohmic and radiation resistance losses (dampening). So did the Poyntine vector just up and disappear? I would say no.

    Is the resonant solenoid really non-electromagnetic? I would have to point out that while the mode of the EM energy has changed from TEM to say TE or TM, it is still electromagnetic in nature. However, if you are referring to the angles of E, B, and S, you might be on to something...

    On a theoretical tangent, let's examine the solenoidal resonator for conditions of series and parallel LC resonance. The key points of interest are the phases of inductive and capacitive currents/voltages with reference to each other AND the source. It becomes a "godhead trinity" so to speak.

    In the general case, most coils are resonated as parallel LC, which means that coil impedance is high, with losses lowering the impedance slightly to allow energy to enter from the source. If no losses were present, divergence of S from the coil would be zero, as would be divergence from the source into the resonator would be zero, since no load is seen to either. A resonator in this condition has the vector sum of its reactance voltages in phase with the source, leading to a DC like condition of (+1)-(+1)=0. That is there is no current, as impedance is infinite (think two batteries of equal voltage connected positive to positive, negative to negative, there is no current flow. So what does this mean for telluric current? There should be a minimal amount in this condition.

    Flipping the situation around to series LC resonance, coil impedance drops to the AC resistance values thus coil reactance appears to be zero. At this point source divergence is very high, if the coil's combined radiation and ohmic resistance is close to the natural impedance of the source. This is the opposite of the previous example. Here the resonance trap takes some energy to maintain its operation with the rest of the energy radiated as heat or RF. The reactance voltages in this case sum to zero and the coil appears as resistive. Telluric currents in this condition should be maximal.

    Getting series resonance isn't easy for a solenoidal resonator. Instead, a hybrid method can be employed, using parallel LC resonators as transmission lines and intentional impedance mismatching to allow for reflection. This is probably why when you use two concatenated coils, extra and secondary, you get more RF current into the ground.

    The net result is a horribly complicated form of transmission line theory and lumped element analysis.

    Optimal parameters for this situation are not in "the books." It's more of an empirical situation to see what works then use analytical thought to assemble the relations into math. This is probably why Eric has yet to provide the mathematical frame work for the coils as telluric transmitters. One would naturally guess that FTL is unlikely, as is anything "longitudinal." However it would be interesting to see the propagation speed. Considering permittivity of the earth isn't constant, refractions should be overwhelming. Empirical data on this subject is dearth at best, however, the data could really turn science upside down if certain assumptions on why this should fail turned out wrong.
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  • t-rex
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    Cosmic Induction Generator - John Polakowski




    Aaron Murakami - assembling shock mounts for Navy TCS Transmitter

    This is a graph of recent experiments with the Cosmic Induction Generator at EPD Laboratories, Inc. The curves indicate the disappearance of energy into counter space or what the physicists would call a different dimension.

    This counter space exists in the neutral plane between the two coils. This is the place where the galaxies originate. It appears we have a dimensional transformer.

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  • t-rex
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    Versor Algebra as Applied to Polyphase Power Systems

    Originally posted by Geometric_Algebra View Post
    Do you have a book in mind from Seely? I haven't quite connected to the modeling of the oscillating terms.

    So do we just generalize h a little bit more to take in the ¼, 1/8, 1/16... rotations to pick off the transient terms?
    j^n=(-1)^(n/2)
    h=(-1)^(n/(2m)), 360/2^(m-1) angular rotations; m,n in positive integers.
    (j^n)*h=(-1)^(n/2)*(-1)^(n/(2m))=(-1)^(n(m+1)/(2m)) ? Something like this in general.
    Or do we start pushing towards non-integer multipliers? I almost see this but not quite. I love it, keep going.
    You're definitely seeing ahead in the program here. Imaginary numbers can ultimately be eliminated completely by using one raised to a fractional exponent.

    An example - fourth root of positive one can be expressed as one to the one-fourth power. But then, this has four roots. One to the one fourth, one to the two fourth, one to the three fourth, and one to the four fourth. Hence, all four roots with no imaginary numbers.

    I have much information on this written but it's very slow getting out. I think it will really fascinate a lot of people. We will see.

    73 DE N6KPH

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