3 Battery Generating System

[Sawt2]

I left the energizer run off the 3BGS all night, it took the charge batt to 14.65V, the primary 1 dropped to 11.3V, primary 2 dropped to 9.6V, Batt 3 went up 13.66V.
Couple thoughts.
1. Primary 2 could have a bad cell
2. I maybe should have worked my way up to 24hr run.
3. Curious to see where batt 3 comes to rest.
4. I think batt 3 is actually improving as a batt.
5. Sadly I may actually have to charge the primaries up.(we'll see tomorrow)

Brian

[Matthew Jones]

Bad batteries will get fixed somtimes. You can prevent that from shorting them out when in storage.

Matt

[shylo]

Killing that battery

If your gonna kill it ,you may as well use it.
artv

[cornfused]

Hi Dave,
As I am writing this I have the basic setup running. Its been running for 30 minutes or so, and my batt. 1 and 2 are currently higher than when started. Batt 1 is 15.4 batt 2 is 14.2 and batt 3 is at 22.2. Batt. 1 and 2 started out at 11 something and batt 3 at 4 volts. #3 started at 27.3 after I hooked everything up, it took 5 minutes or so for the motor to start. Since motor started, I have split the negative with the motor and an aluminum plate in water, in hopes that I can go negative.
This is my first try at the 3bgs. A few nights ago I tried it with two batteries and did get # 2 to go negative, but it didn't stay. It would however run a motor negative when disconnected, but I unhooked the setup and went to bed. The next morning it was back to positive, 3.91 volts. This is really cool, thanks for sharing with us. I have followed your thread since day one, but never took the time to try. I don't have an inverter, but will get one so I can try to balance loads. I did hook an idinical motor to #3 and. Rpm and torque were really high, then unhooked and motor ran slower.
Thanks again for sharing, I plan on fooling with this as my intelligence and time allows.
Jason

Motors are from a peg perigo ride on 4 wheeler. My "good" batteries aren't really that good, they go dead in a day or so.

[Turion]

Glad to see you are having some success with this. The more people who try it the better. As more and more people have doe success with this, it will become more difficult for the nay sayers to convince people that there isn't anything to this.

Dave

[Duncan]

The plate ...

hey diddle diddle the cat and the fiddle adding a plate why not? I heartily agree ! so does Ed L he tells us in his book on the very stuff that I keep suggesting is vibrating these batteries like this

Amazing Resonance Experiment! - YouTube

magnetic current ... (which you may know as reactive current .. which is attracted by resonance) that LA batteries are unbalanced and another plate should be added ... you have done so bravo! throw it in water or bury it either which way it'll help you drink from natures well

About Capacitors ... Part 2 Why it helps to have an odd number of plates, by Andy Davies - YouTube

stick a decent antenna on the other pole that'll be a bonus too I'll warrant

[Turion]

3bgs

The 3BGS is like a box of chocolates....

Which is, of course, the problem.

[wantomake]

still fun

Yes, I took that post down. Now you're one of the few who will have that bit of info. Hope it helps. I have all kinds of things I need to test out before I am going to post anything more here. I have no desire to lead anyone down the wrong path as I have seen people do in other threads, where interested parties have spent hundreds if not thousands of dollars for something that isn't working.

I have always felt that the 3BGS was for the average guy, because it is simple to build and relatively inexpensive. I thought there would be thousands of folks trying it. I was wrong. It seems destined to slip to the back pages of this forum like a page 3 story in the newspaper.

But that's ok, because when those of who continue to work finally figure this out, we'll have our reward. It may not be flashy, but this sucker can put out the power. I have seen it. And once you have seen it, nobody can convince you otherwise.


Your guess is as good as mine about the aluminum plate. There are so many different variations of that idea that I decided to pull the comment so I don't send folks all down dead end tracks. If I run into a dead end, I really don't mind.
Dave

Dave,
Still trying to enjoy this project, but the extreme cold here in southeast has slowed me to a standstill.

I understand your reason to remove the post. I did try the same set-up with same size plate. But, if you did something extra to the plate then would be easier to replicate. PM me if you want. If not I still will try this when time and weather allows.

Either way you decide is ok,
Thanks , wantomake

[Duncan]

I'm running on a bit of a tangent as you all know .. still we are trying to boot the ball into the same net, so If I see something or its reported and I think it pertains .. I'll post . Such is the case in this regard . I did not know granite is radioactive .. neither did I Know it is magnetic . All that aside this was posted..

I know full well there are strange thing happening when an LA battery is being charged !! I got a serious ear bashing from my wife, when after a couple of days charging a battery on one of our Granite work surfaces, upon moving the battery the Granite had taken on the shape of the cell structure within !! And despite a whole day of re polishing there is still the faint outline !!

The pleasures of OU research !!

It may not mean much to you .. but it speaks volumes to me . I questioned the man, That occurred with a standard battery charger.

[LutherG]

I'm running on a bit of a tangent as you all know .. still we are trying to boot the ball into the same net, so If I see something or its reported and I think it pertains .. I'll post . Such is the case in this regard . I did not know granite is radioactive .. neither did I Know it is magnetic . All that aside this was posted..

I know full well there are strange thing happening when an LA battery is being charged !! I got a serious ear bashing from my wife, when after a couple of days charging a battery on one of our Granite work surfaces, upon moving the battery the Granite had taken on the shape of the cell structure within !! And despite a whole day of re polishing there is still the faint outline !!

The pleasures of OU research !!

It may not mean much to you .. but it speaks volumes to me . I questioned the man, That occurred with a standard battery charger.

Thanks Duncan,

Were there any photos of the granite work surface?

Many thanks,

Luther

[Duncan]

Thanks Duncan,

Were there any photos of the granite work surface?

Many thanks,

Luther

I'm afraid not Luther Its pretty much as it sounds very much more concerned with the shagged work surface and now .. after days of polishing an years of use very little to be seen .It is exactly as it appears an off hand comment in passing that I grabbed hold of. I have asked the guy if a controlled experiment might be done with two batteries side by side one charged with magnetic current a'la George Wiseman and one charged with smoothed DC well its a big ask Luther isn't it? If I started telling you what to do I'm pretty sure I'd soon be shown the door. Still I think he's warming to the idea and also .. has some granite left! In the mean time if that stuff moves a compass or alters resistance ,, or ,, or
well it makes a world of difference doesn't it ? Anyway rest assured if it happens .. I'll tell you .
In the mean time it just might be a bit of the jig saw that matters. So I've reported it as is .

[Matthew Jones]

More than likely it was just condensation from the heat of charging the battery. And you don't have to have moisture in the room for that to show up the granite is full of it all the time. It will concentrate it areas like that and it can take days for it to dissipate again.

I do not have enough finger and toes to count the amount of home owners who complain about the "Staining" on granite after the first time they see it. A hot pot will cause the same thing.
Its like Moisture wicking in sand. Where hot usually goes to cold, moisture does just the opposite. The hot sun warms the surface of the sand and the sand warms up then the moisture come to the surface.
Same thing on a concrete slab. Thats why they use plastic between the slab and the soil. So as the surface of the slab warms higher that the ground temperature the moisture starts to wick through the slab. Without the plastic you would always have a wet floor.

Matt

[Duncan]

Shape = deformity = alteration of structure of some very hard stuff polishing is a sweet word for grinding , the man isn’t talking about a temporary stain , and I doubt moisture, still as I say make what you will, I think it could be important, flick it off the cuff if you wish.

[Matthew Jones]

I have heard it all now. Granite is born out of moisture. Its moist in the mountain, it cut out with moisture, its slabbed up with moisture and it polished with moisture. And moisture is trapped in it.

Its also NOT a solid color. Every part of it is translucent. The stain could be below the surface and give it all kinds of appearance. If you actually etched out the polished surface its because you got battery acid on it. Lemon juice left alone on a granite top will etch it out.

But more than likely if polishing didn't remove it it was moisture. And it went away eventually.

Like I said more housewives than I can count have complained about the same thing. Make a mountain out of a molehill. More of it because they think they are paying way to much for a maintenance free stone that will last forever and never blemish. LOL

Goto any granite shop and get a piece of waste and try it, you'll see Its just moisture.

Matt

[Turion]

When you look at the direction of current flow in a potentialized system such as this and consider the motor to be just coils of wire located between a higher potential and a lower potential, you want the flow to be in a specific direction through those coils. Why??
1. These motors were designed to run in a specific direction and
2. These motors put out power as a generator in a specific direction.

So, does the generated output of the motor come out the + wire on the motor or the - wire on the motor?? And is that wire connected to the two batteries in series or to the single reversed battery. That will affect your results I should imagine.

Is the current that is traveling through the motor turning it in the direction it was designed to turn in for alignment of the brushes? And please don't tell me it doesn't make a difference, because it does. I have run this motor on high voltages, and know you get more rpm's out of it when it is hooked up correctly.

These things, which I really hadn't considered until viewing the discussion on Erfinders thread, could be the difference between success and failure in the setup of the 3BGS. You can run the motor between the positives or between the negatives. You can reverse the motor in either of these locations. I know on my original setup I split the positives, but I do NOT know which way I had the motor running. It seems that we have four different possible configurations even in the BASIC setup, and I don't know that we have narrowed it down to which one is the best.

Dave.