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  • #31
    You may want to check out "The True Wireless" article by the great Master himself:

    OCR'ed version: "The True Wireless" by Nikola Tesla

    Also uploaded Tesla's "ELECTRIC DISCHARGE IN VACUUM TUBES" referenced above to my archive:
    Last edited by lamare; 07-05-2011, 07:43 AM.

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    • #32
      Here's a circuit that can be used for all kinds of pulsing duties,

      It's a SG3525 chip it has alternating outputs capable of 230Khz each so about 460 Khz if used on the same coil alternately, I designed it to have drain and source terminals for each mosfet switch so they can be used in different ways, it also has a separate input for the coil power so the coils can be powered by more than the rest of the circuit, depending on the mosfets that could be 100's of volts.

      I used a resistor array with three of the dip switch's to switch in lower value resistors to change the frequency range which is then adjusted through with a 50k and a 5k trimpot for accurate control of RT then I used the other three dip switch's for switching in different value timing caps for greater range control, the PW is adjusted by a 10k pot. This particular one has a frequency range of 16 Hz to 235 Khz per output or combining both outputs out of phase it can do from 32Hz to 470Khz. The pulse width is adjustable from 49% to nothing for the whole range i think, less than 1 us PW no problem.

      In the labeled picture I have it configured with jumpers to fill the 1000uf cap during the first stage and dump it to a battery during the second.

      Labeled circuit pic.


      Oscillator section photo


      So basically this little board can pulse one coil or two or be a two stage cap pulser or beleive it or not an inverter as far as I can tell is not out of it's scope of duties. I'm sure i could think of some more things to do with it too.

      And I just realised I do not have a drawing handy for it with the mods, so i'll have to get onto that and post it in here.

      Here is the Basic circuit from 7imix in this post below.


      I have entertained the thought that if I were to fill a cap with one fet in the first stage then use the energy in the cap to charge a coil the recovered magnetic field of that event could theoretically be returned directly to the source battery as the cap being the source of the current which created the field is decoupled from the battery and therefore a different source, the battery would also be idle. But it might not work just an idea.

      Cheers

      P.S. Study time for me, thanks again lamare, I'll start on that stuff now.
      Last edited by Farmhand; 07-05-2011, 09:30 AM.

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      • #33
        Do you have a name brand, or ref number, if so you could look up the manual in the manufacturer's website or just google it
        Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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        • #34
          Hi all, I've worked out the function generator. and determined the resonant frequency of the secondary of the transmitter coil. Looks like about 492Khz which is about what I thought it was I said in the first post 508Khz measured by the DMM, that is the only frequency I get a sine wave or anything really it just all of a sudden appears the bandwidth or frequency range is very narrow. But with the scope set on 10x and the Function generator amplitude at max the sine wave is as the shots show.

          I connected the function generator and set the scope as shown on the page in the link below but the scope probe was hung only 2 feet from the toroid no streamer string.
          Oscilloscope Tuning a Tesla Coil for Resonance

          The coil shows a sine wave from any of the three input signal type's square, sine, and triangle, square looks best.

          Square wave input


          Triangle


          Sine


          The input signal type is indicated on the FG.

          Being that i get confused easily I thought I would post those first then test the primary.

          Cheers

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          • #35
            Reading along and building too. Thanks!

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            • #36
              Hi wizofid, Glad to hear it. Welcome

              I just tested the other secondary coil and it seems to be a little bit different it's resonant at 485 Khz so I need a little adjustment on that coil too and try to get them as close as possible to each other.

              Receiver frequency


              I just got a strange result from the primary with the Function generator, I think it shows the cap charge and the coil waveform, I realise now I shouldn't have had the scope across the cap too maybe, just the coil. Oh well i'll try again tomorrow.

              This is the transmitter 5 turn primary with the cap and charging inductor included but the schematic would be slightly different to the one on the page I linked above, my capacitor is across the coil not in series with it but my charging inductor is in series with it, maybe an unusual arrangement.


              So I measured another 17 turn primary with no cap just the coil, also another thing is I measured the 5 turn primary still arranged with the secondary, but the 17 turn one I measured by itself.


              Anyway I think I need to do something better with the primary and receiver output coils, I might need to wind one specially tapped and use it to determine an appropriate turn count, then preciscion tap a final pair. I should try some different wire size. and spacing, height and stuff just incase i'm a few millimeters coupling out or something in diameter difference between primary and secondary former I mean, I think I must surely be too close or too far.

              I'm going to make a second set of toroid terminals aswell a bit larger so I can add them or use them instead.

              Much to do.

              Cheers
              Last edited by Farmhand; 07-06-2011, 01:24 PM.

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              • #37
                OK i was just sweeping the receiver coil again from a lower frequency and noticed a resonable sinewave appear at about 162 Khz which is a bit less than a third of the resonant frequency. Interesting.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Farmhand View Post
                  OK i was just sweeping the receiver coil again from a lower frequency and noticed a resonable sinewave appear at about 162 Khz which is a bit less than a third of the resonant frequency. Interesting.

                  https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=32a91...1290&sc=photos
                  Yup, that's a lower harmonic. A very efficient setup might have the driver pulsing at a lower harmonic than the coil, but due to the inductance, capacitance, and resistance being tuned properly, the energy in the secondary will not diminish greatly before the next impulse from the driver, and thus the coil will "ring up" and display a waveform that is like a normal damping oscillation but with the amplitude increasing over time instead of decreasing. Don Smith showed a graph of one of these waveforms in one of his presentations where he was talking about the book by de'arsonval. Unfortunately I think at book is only in French and haven't been able to find a PDF.

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                  • #39
                    For some reason I can't edit my last post. It's D'Arsonval.

                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques-Arsène_d'Arsonval

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                    • #40
                      Here is the part of the video I am referring to

                      YouTube - ‪Donald L. Smith 1996 Tesla Symposium Part 8‬‏

                      Here is information about the book, although there is no PDF available

                      D'Arsonval; soixante-cinq ans à ... - Google Books

                      Here are the relevant stills from the video



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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by 7imix View Post

                        Here is information about the book, although there is no PDF available
                        I do have Don's stuff in my archive:
                        Directory contents of /pdf/Reference_Material/Donald_L_Smith/

                        Update: the book by 'd Arseval is also mentioned in the thread on Don Smith:


                        And more on this book including a (working) link with some of the pages also over there:

                        Originally posted by Jules Tresor View Post
                        Hi guys,
                        Finally got some pages of the book with my camera.
                        The all book is the story of his life, not much about Tesla.
                        Just a few pages presenting an improvement of Tesla's high frequency circuit.
                        Improvement for security and stability of the effects. from page 248.
                        D'Arsonval was a doctor and he developed and improved Tesla's high frequency circuit for medical purpose.
                        There is nowhere mention of producing electricity. All his devices were plugged to the wall or running from batteries.
                        But the author of the book might have hidden many details and comments. In 1934, date of publication of this book, Tesla had been suppressed already ...
                        The author doesn't seem to know very well Tesla, because in two places he says that Tesla was from Austria !

                        The raw 52Mo zip file is here: http://tesla3.com/images/forum/_D-Ar...2Megapixel.zip

                        Feel free to enhance the pictures or to make a smaller pdf file.
                        If you know of very interesting old books to buy from internet, please let me know. For the benefit of all.

                        This picture is NOT in this book:
                        Last edited by lamare; 07-06-2011, 09:40 PM. Reason: Oops. wrong book :(

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                        • #42
                          Awesome Lamare, thanks for digging that up.

                          Watching the video I can see Don is simply paging through his notebook of transparencies, showing some, and talking about them. It's too bad he does not cite his source for the ring up waveform diagrams.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Farmhand View Post
                            OK i was just sweeping the receiver coil again from a lower frequency and noticed a resonable sinewave appear at about 162 Khz which is a bit less than a third of the resonant frequency. Interesting.

                            https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=32a91...1290&sc=photos
                            If you had a two-channel scope it would be a lot easier to see what is going on because you could display the primary impulse driver waveform time-synchronized with the secondary sine wave. When I have some space and time I will make a short video to show you what I am talking about.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by 7imix View Post
                              If you had a two-channel scope it would be a lot easier to see what is going on because you could display the primary impulse driver waveform time-synchronized with the secondary sine wave. When I have some space and time I will make a short video to show you what I am talking about.
                              Yes that would be nice.
                              Check out this video. Looks like a decent setup and his frequency readings are interesting for the size of the coil. Notice the out of phase events he can get including one just out of phase. He talks quietly so turn up the volume.
                              YouTube - ‪Don Smith Tune1 - http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=25.0‬‏

                              Thanks everybody for the input, every bit helps. I seem to be going around and around in circles today not acheiving anything. I hope to make some more terminals tonight and maybe a primary and also the variable inductor for the receiver.

                              If I can stop reading and watching video's that is.

                              Cheers

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by 7imix View Post
                                Awesome Lamare, thanks for digging that up.

                                Watching the video I can see Don is simply paging through his notebook of transparencies, showing some, and talking about them. It's too bad he does not cite his source for the ring up waveform diagrams.

                                He does include (at least) two lists of references in the material at free-energy-info, and he also mentions d'Arsonval:



                                D'Arsonval, Professor of Experimental Medicine at the College of France, invented the electrocardiograph, oscilloscope, amp and volt meters, thermography and numerous other medical applications of high frequency electricity. As early as 1860, he was building high frequency coil systems, which he used in his experimental work. There is a strong connection between the work of Tesla and the people mentioned above.

                                Additional Reading:
                                Electricity and Magnetism by B.I. Bleany and B. Bleany Oxford University Press 1991 ISBN. 0-19-851172-8

                                Engineering Electromagnetics by W. H. Hayt. Jr. McGraw-Hill 1989 ISBN. 0-07-027406-1

                                Energy Methods in Electromagnetism by P. Hammond Oxford University Press 1986 ISBN. 0-19-859368-6

                                Energy in Electromagnetism by H. G. Booker Institution of Electrical Engineers by Peter Peregrinus Ltd. 1982 ISBN 0-900040-59-1

                                The American Radio Relay League Handbook for 1992 and 1993. 69th and 70th editions. Published by The American Radio Relay League. (For V.A.R. information) ISBN. 0-87259-169-7

                                Electron Paramagnetic Resonance, Techniques & Applications by R. S. Alger, U. S. Naval Radiological Defence Laboratory, San Francisco, California. Pub. Interscience Lib. Congress #67-20255

                                Geomagnetic Diagnosis of the Magnetosphere by A. Nishida, University of Tokyo 1978 Pub: Springer-Verlag ISBN. 0-387-08297-2

                                Energy and The Missing Resource by I. Dostrovsky. Pub: Cambridge University Press 1988 ISBN. 0-521-26592-4

                                High Voltage Measurement Techniques By A. Schwab, M.I.T.. 1971 I S.B.N. 0-262-19096

                                Environmental Magnetism by R. Thompson & F. Oldfield Pub: Allen & Unwin, London 1986 ISBN. 0-04-538003-1

                                Geo-electromagnetic Investigation of the Earth's Crust and Mantle. Translated from Russian, By I. I. Rokityansky. Institute of Geophysics, Kiev, U.S.S R. Pub: Springer-Verlag 1082. ISBN. 3-540-10630-8

                                Electron Paramagnetic Resonance of Transition Ions by A. Abragam and B. Bleaney Dover Publications, New York, N.Y. 1986

                                The Electromagnetic Field by A. Shadowitz, Dover Publications, New York, N.Y.

                                Geomagnetism, Several Volumes, Pub. Periodically by J.A. Jacobs, Institute of Earth Studies, Dyfed, U.K. Pub: Academic Press 1989-1990's.

                                Geomagnetism by S. Chapman and J. Bartels, 3 Volumes Oxford University Press, 1940

                                Physics of Geomagnetic Phenomena, Several Volumes by S. Matsu****a and W. H. Campbell National Center for Atmospheric Research, Boulder, Colorado Library of Congress #67-23168 Pub: Academic Press, 1967

                                Physics Problems and How to Solve Them by C. E. Bennett, Professor Emeritus of Physics. University of Main (Particularly the sections on Electricity and Magnetism, and Units of Measure). Pub: Harper & Row ISBN. 0-06-460203-6

                                Units and Standards for Electromagnetics By P. Vigoureux, National Physical Laboratory Pub: Springer-Verlag 1071 ISBN. 0-387-91077-8

                                Surveyor's Guide to Electromagnetic Distance Measurement. Edited by J. J. Saastamoinen, Canada Pub: University of Toronto Press

                                Electromagnetic Distance Measurement by C. D. Burnside Pub: Granada, London 1971 ISBN. 0-258-96793-5

                                Der Magnetische Kreis "The Magnetic Circuit" By Von Heinz Rieger of Siemens AG. 1970 Berlin and Munchen, Germany I.S.B.N. 3-8009-4719 6

                                Electronic Modelling of Power Electronic Converters by J. A Ferreira Pub: Kluwer Academic 1989 33 AH Dordrecht, The Netherlands I.S.B.N. 0-7923-9034-2
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                                The ARRL Handbook can be found here:
                                Index of /manuals_schematics



                                This Version 13.0 of the ARRL Handbook CD-ROM contains the complete text, drawings and photos of the printed 2009 ARRL Handbook. In addition, it contains "template" packages that contain additional information such as printed-circuit board layout drawings, parts lists and expanded treatment of some subjects. Also included is companion DOS/Windows software.
                                Figure 10.4 at page 4 of this pdf shows the same kind of picture:

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