Joule Ringer!

[PhysicsProf]

Nice work, Skywatcher, blackchisel, and totoalas et al...

I also completed a build. Results were less than spectacular, since I have a severe transistor-heating problem. I could only run for very short times.

I used the 120V -to- 12V Radio Shack transformer recommended by Peanutbutter and a 3055 transistor, and a 3 W LED bulb, and the LED indicator recommended by Lidmotor. Lots of good ideas...
Over short times, I measured about 90-100 Lux (approx 8 Lumens) is all... with 10V in and 0.9 A. Obviously, I have not found that "sweet spot"... Roughly 1 Lm/W -- nothing to write home about.

I tried a small audio amplifier also: borrowed from a neighbor, a young man who is an electronics wizard IMO. This promptly blew out the LED indicator light. I need to talk to him about this circuit...

Back to the drawing board. Since its a holiday and family are coming, not much time for further experiments this Memorial Day weekend... (sigh; but great to have family times together!)

[totoalas]

Hi to all

Only 6 months ago I dreamt of Off grid power supply and Now comes to reality Thanks to Blackchisel Minoly Lidmotor and Xee2 / Lasersaber
My SSG powered by a 10 w solar monocrystalline less battery going to the Alum Battery with Super Joule Ringer Load great result

Another set up SSG supplied with solar charged 12 v dc sla going to SJR without battery bank load
@ less than 100 mA input and output 12 v dc 110 mA 80 % brightness

With Set up 1 AND 1 VOLT CONSUMPTION FOR 16 HOURS DAY AND NIGHT LIGHTING HOW ABOUT THAT NAYSAYERS

TOTOALAS


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tHIS IS FOR SET UP 1
Solar SSG less battery going to ALUM BATT/ SJR LOAD 260512 - YouTube

[totoalas]

Super SSG less Battery + Alum Batt to SJR 260512

Hi to all

Only 6 months ago I dreamt of Off grid power supply and Now comes to reality Thanks to Blackchisel Minoly Lidmotor and Xee2 / Lasersaber
My SSG powered by a 10 w solar monocrystalline less battery going to the Alum Battery with Super Joule Ringer Load great result

Another set up SSG supplied with solar charged 12 v dc sla going to SJR without battery bank load
@ less than 100 mA input and output 12 v dc 110 mA 80 % brightness

With Set up 1 AND 1 VOLT CONSUMPTION FOR 16 HOURS DAY AND NIGHT LIGHTING HOW ABOUT THAT NAYSAYERS

TOTOALAS


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[blackchisel97]

Just replicated Lidmotor setup using wall wart transformer with center tap. I only changed connection from the base diode to the center tap but 100nF cap as per diagram. The only LED lamp I have is 2W. It runs like a charm. At 76mA/12V I'm getting nice ringing and 130V spikes. I'll play a bit more tomorrow since is past 3am here. I copied three circuits into one sheet for anyone who wants to try it. Thanks for the inspiration guys and don't worry about negative feedback on UT. I'm also from Canada and I never voted down someone's video. If I don't like I just don't watch. You always have 5 stars from me. Period

Thanks for good info Matt. Something to think about.
Cheers
V

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[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, here is my boxed up super joule ringer 2.0 using standard transformer.
2n3055 with 100kohm base to positive resistor to start oscillations.
12 volt battery input at 1.2 amps.
15 watt cfl, non-modified.
I am using cfl because I don't have any of those AC led bulbs.
It's a nice emergency light, should be good for at least 6 hours on one of these batteries.
Super Joule Ringer 2.0 using standard transformer - YouTube


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peace love light
tyson

[Slider2732]

Was good to see those scope shots...not a simple shape at all. Informative video

Just popped in to our local Walmart and they have the 7.5W bulbs with the silver fluted bases and round domes. $11.97 but at least are seemingly being wider stocked than just Lowes.
Picked up some solder though from Walmart, our RS doesn't carry lead free. The Walmart tube says RoHS compliant, Rosin core, but doesn't cite lead...am I correct in thinking it is lead free ?

Finally found the adapter for the 2W and 1W LOA LED bulbs. They have tiny bases otherwise, that don't fit normal bulb holders.
The reading on the 2W was 1.382V on my homemade solar lightbox toilet roll thing. The bulb didn't look to be driven very hard at all when on mains. Next is to see what the figures are for various circuits.

On the Joule Thief type simple switcher in my last vid and using a 1980's transistor from a cash register (HB B122, good luck finding that datasheet !) -
1.313V on 12V @ 80mA 0.96W
1.684V on 12V @ 390mA 4.68W
So it just shows that sometimes these little bulbs are being 'overdriven' compared to stock mains.

[Peanutbutter29]

First, I'm bad at times thanking, so thank you all for comments or understanding.
Also, @ Lidmotor I agree with thick skin, and generally don't care what people think (I have dirty or longer nails in videos, oh my). In some ways, I consider the "trolls" (hate that term) the BEST groupies one can get. Heck even though they put a dislike, they are probably around longer than most.

I guess people know I say what I think by now. I suppose its one of the AS aspects I use as an advantage. I don't have fear of life or people, which allows me to screw myself. Of course, if necessary and in reality; that's all what will be done if analyzed. I suppose then, it's either something I feel important; or that I'm a complete moron (possible).

@PhysicsProf.
-about future power worries I wonder if many are at this same conclusion in one way or another.
- My best version, is the 1.0 for efficiency. The main reason (1.1 aside) that I was able to get decent with other designs; is better understanding some of the characteristics of the circuit and how the tranny plays in. Essentially "Tuning" where that is not as easily allowed, relative to the transformer (since other circuit variables remain generally the same, bulb, transistor, bias etc).

-With the light box, I agree around 8% is probably end optimal accuracy. We couldn't get down to meter % without Excluding any reflected / refracted / blocked light I would assume.

- For your replication. Uhhhhh. You would have to ask Lidmotor what he feels is the best bulbs for his circuit as I do not know where his system will be best. Again, it's not mine; so I cannot say.

- Last ty for clarification on test parameters. Another moment.
Uhhhhh. Not dimmable? Ya, I'm not sure very many are using those; definitely not Myself, Laser, Lid or Lynx at the least.
I stated on one video that I feel dimmable is preferred over non. Though different in operation, this is why PC's draw a huge current before (or if) they don't start; and draw much less once "Driven" properly.

If we assume simply that that the internal circuit is playing a role; then would there be a difference in dimmable, non-dimmable? Also would there be a difference in Mfg. relative to circuit design itself? (remember 30% rule, cannot be another bulb unless it is patentable)

Before, less agreeable things; the dimmable would probably raise your numbers some. Since most in the US are running utilitech dimmable; maybe try those. That may help Lynx numbers some .

In general with bulbs. If you compare most high output LEDs Cool white is higher Lu/W than Warm White; there is your difference. I feel daylight is a better color then, but that's partial to prior marine knowledge. Put a warm white on a plant or fish tank; very bad, poor spectrum, plants die and algae grows. Put a daylight on, everything is fine.

We should compare then, what IS daylight. Of course a full spectrum that ONLY "NO, HO, VHO fluorescents" can reproduce to some degree. Sun is a nice arc through out the visible spectrum. Most light sources are very "peaky" in particular ranges, and even daylights just get that way by "countering the red with blue".
Why would this benefit anything? Well plants have 2 types of Chlorophyll and carotene that use particular ranges. There is more photosynthetic activity in the lower (blue) range, but note "nature" is allowing for both.
People always talk about UV with blue and being bad, however Vitamin D (only attained naturally from the sun) is produced in our skin; optimally just below 300nm. This is well into the UV range and also requires 25mw of this to "start-up" appx.

There are other aspects, that we don't need here CRI, PAR, etc. However you are seeing color temperature more, so that is. Color temp (In K) is NOT a relation of "Spectrum" but total temp of the bulb. As a result of this, more blue = higher kelvin. This is largely evident in marine (since, water being blue, filters THAT first) where up to 20,000K bulbs are used. These of course have very poor CRI, but decent PAR for their application.

So, to summate here; the sun is 5500K appx., but if you make bulbs @ that; depending on style, it still has a poor CRI compared to daylight. Since our light sources are "peaky" we have to bump K up (more blue). So, usually 6500K range ends up with best CRI to be called daylight. Yes, this will also have a PAR better than warm white (low K) too, but custom application bulbs are preferred for best PAR there.

Finally, since we want the most "useable" light for the least amount; it follows that a higher CRI is wanted, as with daylight compared to warm white.

now I get to be hated at my own stake, but should be said also.

-I've said that these circuits are different if they vary, right. So, I'm NOT one to say This is the Same as That. However, I feel a bit bad for Lasersaber with Lynx in particular. Here, there are no circuit changes and even runs identical cores to what LS showed (on the left of his 2.0 video expressed as "upcoming improvements). In a legal sense this is not 30% and using shown "prior art" for operation. Sure, there was a thought of resonance; which I stated to him and here cannot be. Sure, there was a gutted period or even Compact period that has been found less efficient. I dunno, like I said; just seems like he's taking what Laser showed as next. I wonder if this relates to not getting to see more Laser videos, as I'd like to.
I guess I looked first at noise, then heat, then frequency (no RF), then tuning. I tried to stay OFF what Laser was doing, most notably, of course, using off the shelf trannies. Most importantly though with "tuning".

-Second and larger screw (I'm sure here). @ Lidmotor. Please do NOT relate Bedini with any of this stuff!
I only knew of him from YT videos before getting into crystal cells (and learning he's still around etc) I'd seen some motor replications and knew "of" a bedini motor; but nothing else. My personal thought on it, was no OU; awful hard on circuit aspects and a bit against nature. It was not until crystal cells that I learned all of what he's done and claimed. I'd seen earth batteries from Lasersaber, but knew those were used in early times; I didn't connect that he was claiming an invention there.
I will bite my tongue but only say I am utterly horrified at some of what has been "pulled" off and people buy.


Last I DO want to add, the few channels I watched completely before getting into research, I subscribed to. There are many great people, but these were one's who caught my attention and interest for various reasons. Dutchsinse, Lasersaber, Lidmotor, Gotoluk, Skycollection, GregorAurturo85, Diveflyfish, Jiffycoil and more recent PMMG4HYBRID.

I'm sure I'll subscribe to more and have already, but I'd like to acknowledge that I have utmost respect for these people for various reasons. Of course this is not to exclude people, but give props to those from before I started.

Sorry to have some negative,
Thanks, PB

EDIT: since PhysicsProf showed the scope from the Lynx and a couple others are starting; I've remade one of my scope video's public again from the SJRC 1.1. I would assume that waveform is what your looking for, if "tuned". SJRC v1.1 Scope shots B-E and Output. Also running circuit on 12v battery. Verifications - YouTube

[Lidmotor]

Positive and negative feedback

@All
It is a puzzle why people "like" or "dislike" the work we are doing. I took a look this morning at some other people's videos on Youtube to see if what is happening to me is also happening to them. You are right ----I'm not alone and someone in Canada is jerk. I also have several people here in the US that are doing "hidden jerk" thing. Lasersaber has gotten quite a bit of negative feedback on some of his videos. Sooooo --- I think that we should just be thick skinned and ignore it. If the negative feedback, however, is stated in a comment or a posting and proves to be valid then that actually helps us. Nobody wants to spend time and money on a wild goose chase. The Romero Muller project was an example of something gone terribly wrong. A bunch of people were fooled and much time and money was wasted.

Positive feedback, like happens most of the time on these endeavors, really helps. It keeps the energy level up and speeds the development of the project.

Lidmotor

[PhysicsProf]

That Lux meter is now just $13.30 at Amazon - Prime shipping too.

Amazon.com: Light Meter LX1010B,50,000 Lux Luxmeter with lcd display: Home Improvement

You could have it in two days...

[PhysicsProf]

Some of you realize there is a parallel discussion going on over at EF.
Let me call your attention to parallel work done by Brad_S, on which I also comment -- here (if you wish):

Joule Ringer!

Note that his light box looks a lot like mine. even uses the same Lux meter (available from Amazon for less than $19 last time I checked).
His Lumens/Watt ratios come out close to mine also; so we might say the measurements are "checking out" quite well.

Now to press forward to higher MEASURED Lm/W!

[Slider2732]

@All
A laugh first...I kept refreshing the previous page this evening and missed everyones posts on this page

If I may address the thumbing issue, as I see it too.
b_rads wrote

I have gotten thumbs down as well and they have all come from Canada

The description text of my Romero coil vid says the same thing: RomeroUK Special Coil Test - YouTube
Specifically, that someone in Canada attempted to thumb down 6 times !
I had no reservations in calling out that situation on the video description. I'm probably feeding such troll behaviour, but will not be attacked in such a fashion and merely take it, with no explanation from the person.
Now, OK, so I was animated in that video, but it's hardly an issue to be excited when discovering something for the self.
The very fact that such clowns hide in the shadows leads to a non caring of their objectives - i have no interest in appeasing people who hide. As with many other people here, the interest is with those who may benefit from the content of a video...as they wish for me to be helped by posting theirs. If something is indeed rubbish, i'll get to know...by lack of views or comments or whichever way.
At the end of the day, these are not TV channels, with expected production standards.
Do bear in mind - people are actively employed to disrupt discussion boards and videos online. Take a search on such matters.
The Canadian person may get a '+1" for being mentioned here, by whatever covert rubbish is going on.
Teamwork is where we're at, a club in some regards - does the person in Canada have a friendship problem ? has he an unfulfilled need to be 'Liked' on Facebook ? who cares ?
We share, we discuss, we further ideas and builds....forget the thumbing down, it's a character problem that is not ours

@PhysicsProf - Great results and the European voltage spec raised an eyebrow or two, that is good news. I compressed the windings on my Lynxsteam variant and it actually decreased effectiveness markedly. It seemed somewhat tunable with ferrite in the end, again a lot like small Tesla towers. I'll reread all those figures above in a minute, probably 4 times at this hour lol.

@Pb, please do consider staying around. Your postings and persona are no lead weight around here

[PhysicsProf]

Peanutbutter, I find we are on the same page!

For me, again. I really got into this relating to prepping and this is stuff part of it too. I am not normally a type to post, but I have a compulsion, from somewhere, to do it. I'm just hoping to help if possible.

I think the mains-grid at some point will be toasted, probably by EMP, and we want folks to have LIGHT. Maybe I'm being pessimistic, but when a super-duper bomb is built like the "High-altitude EMP weapon", , then history tells us it's likely to be used... BUT we can prepare and help others too. Hence, running on 12V DC... prepared to do it, anyway.

Now -- I've made some progress today after the "honey-do's" were done.
The best I could do this morning was about 23 Lm/W. Well, I managed to double that. Here's how.

First, I finally rec'd a couple of high-efficiency bulbs I'd ordered, and these run at about 1 W using the mains and put out nearly 80 Lumens in the light box -- 80 Lm/W, which is great! So I used this bulb, and immediately the yield with the AIR core SJR-2.0 jumped up to about 40 Lm/ W. I varied the voltage; here is near the optimum voltage, 9V, with changing only the bulb from previous runs this morning:

9V in; 0.8 A, so 7.2 W in.
3700 Lux in the light box, times 0.08 (my calibration-conversion factor for this box) = 296 Lumens.
296Lm/7.2W = 41 Lm/W -- not bad.
PS -- freq = 157 KHz; V-rms output = 104 V with this load.

Note: at 12V, I get just 29 Lm/W... So there is some tuning associated with varying the voltage. A broad maximum -- from 7V to 9V input, the yield stays near 40 Lm/W.

OH -- note that the bulb says it is for 220V, 50 Hz -- but it works just fine with the above conditions! Someone asked about that; I think it was Jules. Here's the bulb I'd now recommend, Jules:
Cheap E27 1.5W 36 LED 252LM White Light LED Light Bulb AC180~240V;50HZ,5500~6000K | Everbuying.com
-- and only $8.93 each if you buy 2...
It does not put out the Lm/W advertised on-line, but at about 80 Lm/W measured in my light box, it is better than other LED bulbs I've tested (typically 55-65 Lm/W).

Next, I tried a trick used by Lynx earlier, I compressed the primary winding down to about 3" along the base of the coil -- so it covers now maybe 1/4 of the secondary coil... starting to look like a Tesla coil now.

Results -- my best to date -- follow:
9V in; 0.33 A, so 3 W in.
1990 Lux in the light box, times 0.08 (my calibration-conversion factor for this box) = 159 Lumens.

159Lm/3W = 53 Lm/W -- a big improvement from 23 max this morning!

PS -- freq = 178 KHz; V-rms output = 84 V with this new bulb and the primary coil concentrated at the bottom.

Whew! (PS -- I'm not claiming OU at this stage!!)

[PhysicsProf]

I'm uploading a bit more "advanced" circuit than the previous SJRC's and it was done to try and maintain "Tuning" with a lower load. Where normally this isn't possible with the trannies like the "shack". I'm very happy with it, but it's a bit different.

I'm very interested in building your "best" version, Peanutbutter... I have gathered 4 xformers, and I'm getting a RadioShack 12v xformer also...

@PhysicsProf, Nice that Lynx sent a version! Ouch on the Lu/W though . On the light box, ya I'm waiting on the meter still from HK....supposedly mid June I think, Ugh!
At least with the old meter, the solar indicator, and previous reference; I now have 3 verifications for light. Still not perfect, but Very re-creatable, so not bad.

I'm hoping more people show values for Lu/W. I'm not sure if anyone has tried to offer it so far? I'm glad again you got to verify the Lynx.

Right -- reproducibility and consistency are what the light box offers, I've found.
@Lidmotor -- so far, I've found that the Warm light and the "pure white" bulbs give very close to the same lux values with my little meter from Amazon as they are rated, within 3-5%. If we can get +/- 8% values on these tests, I'll be happy -- and I think such measurements will help us make solid progress (increasing Lm/W ).

I suppose, I went towards "get a DIY out that was still "tunable"" and at least found something alright. You'd said you were getting some of the shack parts? Were you going to try my tuned version? which one, "Tuned" or SJRC 1.2?
If you test as I show, 9 bulbs is a bit more efficient than 6, but I wouldn't consider tuning right, much outside of this. I didn't test that one, but I'm pretty sure 60%-70% output. Which is why I showed unverified with v1.2 and assumed 60%. Guess I tested all the others, but I had friends over at the time of those; and was pretty distracted.

I've attached Lidmotor's schematic from today -- I like it's simplicity -- that's the one I'm planning to build tomorrow. BUT if you have a better idea, pls let me/us know!

A light box big enough to accommodate 6 - 9 bulbs is not difficult; I would use three power strips in a foil-lined box. Fast calibration -- run with the full set of bulbs in place in the light box, using the GRID AC. Add up the rated lumens and measure the LUX on your meter; divide to get the { Lm/Lux ratio) for your light box (and meter).

Then, without moving any bulbs, power the bulbs up using the blocking oscillator (whatever one wants to call it! ) -- and measure the Lux output! Multiply by the Lm/Lux-ratio above, and this is the Lumens output. Finally, divide by Watts in -- voila, Lm/W!

Think I covered everything. Hope everyone is doing well!

Thanks, PB

EDIT: also at PhysicsProf....what was the source for those DSO shots? Was it from the air core or mains??
When I took apart that one 13w compact, it seems there is a small toroid for base triggers; and a push-pull step-up with bipolar's. The LED wave seems a bit chopped, is that a dimmable bulb? I wonder if they are using a triac or similar for dimmable's; if so.

Both DSO screen shots today were with the AIR core (not the mains).
The bulb was not dimmable.

Thanks for all the comments. More great vids, P-nutbutter and Lidmotor!

I have more data from this evening... need to type it in.
--Steven J

[Peanutbutter29]

Being Frank? Who's that?

@ Lidmotor. From your video were you talking about the dislikes? I seem to mostly get them with my SJRC videos and not if I say Super Joule Ringer 2.0. With that, and less likes; i assume people don't like me "naming" it, or the charge is too low.
I Know one of them is probably that blogger that trashed on Lasersaber and I on his site. Maybe he's haunting you too, as he believes we are killing the transistors, lol.

I had one item related to this, that may not have a better chance to present; so I'd like to express "my perception" of titles and "Why" I'm calling things as such.
I want to clarify that when I showed, potentiometer, Diode, and even caps (for reinforcement or frequency control as per video); All of these were listed as and considered merely improvements to LS SJR 2.0 "as it were". I know I'm a new guy and have to "earn a place", so that's involved; but I also wondered if some thought I was trying to take away from LS? There was an apparent.....uhmm..first hesitation from others to use the potentiometer. Also, an almost apparent.....disdain for the cap video. I perceived this, primarily to people thinking "so what, a cap; oh boy!"; so to speak. I can understand here as I related un tuned or single caps have limits to function.
When I came up with a theory for tuning, that seemed to apply in my first test; I gained confidence in this theory. Now, I was excited about this tuning method and end operation; but I knew since caps video was a flop, "who would think otherwise here?". So, I continued testing and verifying; looking for something else that could be added that "might" make people look, really look at "what" is going on.

The main starting intention, then, of SJRC; was in hopes someone would see a difference and investigate to find out. These are the only circuits (fully tuned) I've tried to separate, since in operation they are different. I know when someone understands the tuning; "why" I say separate will make more sense. Until then I can only help and hope. If everyone can know and do this to coils and "understand" how to do it; then I don't really care what is called or who wants credit.
Sure, I'm making these for situations I may practically use them (SHTF); however, I don't look for personal value / gain from things as I've stated. Here, tuning is the easier part and there's only one variable I have left to personally investigate; though it's verification. The hard part, and my hope, is for others to grab something and "do" the same thing with their own logic.

I hope that helps some know, I'm not "coining" a term, or stealing thunder. Just waving a bright red flag to someone looking / open. With words n' such I consider the meaning more important than a word anyhow.
To close here, a friend that knows I'm a hermit type and is surprised I am even posting asked; "what if you get all kinds of views or subscribers?" I responded, "well if I ever had something stupid like 1 mil views, I'd probably never be seen online again!" He laughed, argh!

So, now about naming all of this, it seems many are asking and it is an issue. I don't understand why it is, but again I've been out of research for a long time; other than browsing YT.
First we have to define "what" aspect is being disputed or decided.
--Are we considering the "oscillator" component? E.g. - Colpitts, hartley, blocking etc.
--Are we considering a "circuit" E.G JR, SJR, Slayer, SJRC, Lidmotor, etc?
--Are we considering who first created said "oscillator" component?

Obviously with the last, Tesla made the oscillator, later we use an induction coil oscillator and with transistors; there are, what 20 patented types? Last, of course mostly now crystal oscillators are used.

About considering the oscillator then? Well there seems many variations to Slayer and I've tried to look up Xee also; so I can compare all these and LS, JT, JR etc. Also, looking up patented oscillator types.
It would seem only one type of oscillator fits what all have used, and is from the 1920's. This is the Armstrong oscillator and is most essentially what all these are. Add to this, then, various "circuits" can evolve or output either Regenerative operation (like a slayer, from few scopes) or Blocking like a JT, JR, etc. All use a Tickler feedback accredited to him. Of course replace the C in drawing with the Loads we are using now.

Last then is about a "Circuit" and it's definition. Well, an oscillator is just that. Other than a sales pitch using "crystal radio" there are NO oscillators that predominate circuit design. An oscillator cannot Be a radio, or a light driver etc; but a "Circuit" can.
I suppose this is a case were we can consider "common law" as a stereotypical "right or wrong".
Simply with technology, if the device in parts, design, operation or claims; can be proven in excess of 30% different. You have a patentable "separate" device according to patent law. So, someone could patent an oscillator if it's different from those around. otherwise, a "circuit" is a total other creature and contains many "independently patented" parts.

So, to me; it seems sometimes were asking is the apple an orange. If Slayer, Lasersaber or anyone wants to claim an oscillator design, fine and that would be the proper "named" "component" in YOUR circuit.
If however, Slayer, Lasersaber or anyone wants to claim a "Circuit" design; 30% means reality and law says it IS yours.
So, then Ultimately the Slayer exciter is a "Circuit" as with the JT and JR and SJR and Lidmotor's new design. These are ALL able to be called another "circuit".
If we base on just oscillator, since no 30% change has come there; they ALL are Armstrong regenerative or blocking oscillators and NO one else.

All in all, even without looking at patents and money, each circuit has a distinction. Slayer seems more in wireless lighting and RF (from little I know about it), Lasersaber seems more onto store items and low / no parts. Lidmotor, your circuit was an excellent one and again you had intentions on tuning and such. Sure, I'm doing charging stuff too, but do feel the "tuning" is most important with mine.

Can we ever adopt one name, doubt it. Should we adopt one name; dear gosh please no! Part of the distinction is so someone says "hey, this is new WHY is it different"; rather than "oh, this is the same as a what I know; I'll just do that again"

If any of these people actually want money or a business they have to patent it first; and this is known. Some in the free energy area already have and others aren't looking for this. (I'm just glad I don't have magnets, cause I won't tell you bout' no magnets)

For me, again. I really got into this relating to prepping and this is stuff part of it too. I am not normally a type to post, but I have a compulsion, from somewhere, to do it. I'm just hoping to help if possible.
I suppose I have done some checking into patent prevention on my circuit. Looking into how to make public, so it cannot be patented. I'll have to see cost and possibility to know there.

Thanks, I tried to be full open and honest here with perception and I do not intend to upset. Sorry for long as usual. I believe once posting is done and last few works; I'll be out of all your hair . Maybe something else later will come along, I pick up; who knows

Thanks, PB

Also, I am going to finish tuning if wanted....was giving time for possible absorption of things so far. Some good points in wiki blocking oscillator page, but too long for adding those atm.

Oh PS I keep forgetting......the door is SHUT on wireless power through air; oh well. MIT has it cornered now.
Patent US8076800 - Wireless non-radiative energy transfer - Google Patents
Figures!

[CrystalDipoleMatrix]

@Lidmotor:
Loved this last video, as I do all your videos. You are one of my favorite youtubers along with many of the others here who share their work on youtube. You mentioned that you had gotten some negative hits, that is soo sad.

On the only two vids that I have posted on invertors, I have gotten thumbs down as well and they have all come from Canada. One person hit me 5 times in one day, of course it only counts as one anyway. I wish youtube had a policy that required an explanation for leaving a thumbs down, maybe some of the gutless people would think twice. I will be very hesitant to post another vid on this subject. Again, this is soo sad.

Brad S

Just look at the number of viewers....Almost no one is searching for this kind of ''new technology''. We are almost alone out there.....But god is out there and he gets me hope.
Edit: I'm from canada and it's thumbs up all the way for me.