The Robert Adams Pulse Motor Design Review

[toranarod]

Hi Rod,
where can we download the PIC program that you promised?

I will give you a link to down load the program

[toranarod]

Here's a pic of it so far.


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Tyson

Hello SkyWatcher
very nice construction You have put a lot of work into that designee.
Thanks for posting a photo.

I have been working refining my motors energy recovery system
I have some new circuits to show you
you may find this very helpful

cheers rod

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, Hi joit, thanks for the advice on placing generator coils separate from main rotor. I'll think about that once I get the motor going. I mounted all 6 coil/cores and wired them in series for 40 ohms, of course I figured that resistance would be way too high for something like 36 volts input unless the gaps were fairly large. With the gap at 3/16" on each side at 36 volts it barely budges the rotor. So, I will have to place the coils in series/parallel for it to work or make the gap bigger. Will be tweaking it now.
Also, I meant to ask you toranarod, Have you tried to put a small mechanical load on your shaft, like say a small fan blade like woopy has shown. I ask because I'm curious if it would still maintain its voltage if it were doing work besides no load spinning, thanks.
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Tyson

[caru]

Hi Rod,
where can we download the PIC program that you promised?

[Joit]

This is what i have been thinking of trying for a while.
its based on a few ideas form other projects.
the coils are fixed inside the rotor with a magnet in the center.
the magnets fly around the out side.
well you get the idea its only on paper at the moment


cheers Rod

Hi,
That is how usual a Generator from a Motobike works.
just without the Magnet inside.
I did take one apart lately, and was a little bit amazed,
that it actually has a good effciency, but still not enough .

But for the Adams Rotor, somewhere at he Docs is mentioned,
that he did use Coils between 0,03 and 100Ohm Resistance,
so i think it is dont critical, only, that the the Gen-coils all do match to eachother.

Some thing i do still struggle with, is, when he use differnet Size of Wire,
and match the pysical Resistance, after you power them, they may dont
match anymore with the Resistance.

But well, when i would have time i would make a Stator with adjustable Generator Coils, outside,
also it may importend, the look at the Deep from the Coils, that they are not larger then the Magnetic Field reaches.
The Point is, that you have a turning Magnet Field at the Rotor,
with changing S and N fields. The Moment, where the Power Coils drive the Rotor should be away from the Moment,
where the Generator put drag on the Rotor.
When you have a Load at the Generator, it creates a Resistance,
and it will let the Generator Coils work more.
Also, as he do Connect the Generator Coils, it do look like one Big Coil,
where one End is the Minus an one the Positiv,
and here, you have to find the right Spot around the Rotor with the Generator Coils
between this turning N and S Field, without interacting with the Powercoils.

So, for your Device Skywatcher, i would may mount the Generator Coils at another turnable (adjustable) Disk on your Box, where you can turn the whole Generatorcoils a bit around, and find a Sweet Spot.

[lanenal]

the cold run is highly significant

Great to see a lot of development in this thread.

If you've built an Adams motor that runs stone cold, while traditional theory predicts otherwise, you know you've got something interesting to look into and to experiment further upon.

And that is very good.

So, for those less advanced builders, I would highly recommend start with a modest goal in mind: the cold run effect (small duty cycle of your pulse is an important factor, and maybe small current magnitude too -- just enough to drive it). Otherwise, it all looks like shooting at the moon to me. That's my gut feeling.

Happy tinkering and happy new year!

lanenal

[SkyWatcher]

Here's a pic of it so far.


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Tyson

[SkyWatcher]

Hi toranarod, i assume your speaking to me. I finished 6 coils and intend to make a total of 12. But for now I will use 6 coils, with 3 coil/cores on each side of the rotor, each coil being spaced 120 degrees. I'm getting it setup to test with a reed switch, to see how she goes for now.
That's an interesting setup you drew. Would it have the same polarity orientation like the Willis setup, cause I noticed it's different in two parts of the drawing.
I should have my motor running in the next couple days, so will see how well it moves with these coil/cores.
You know there is a website called totallyamped that describes possibly how some aspects of the Adams motor functioned. I myself have built generator setups that speed up under full coil load and/or short circuit. Of course it never quite reaches the speed or input that removing the cores and rotating it does, though it could be one possibility of what Adams was doing in his thermo generator. Though, I recall he still had much heat even without coils loaded, so who knows. Anyway, here is a link to that site.
http://www.totallyamped.net/adams/
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Tyson

[toranarod]

that looks easy enough to setup and run a few test
Thanks for the information.

there is something i will draw up and show you later.
after reading up on Parallel path motor. and switching fixed magnets
I had an idea

cheers Rod

How are you going with the coils?

[toranarod]

the IN runner

This is what i have been thinking of trying for a while.
its based on a few ideas form other projects.
the coils are fixed inside the rotor with a magnet in the center.
the magnets fly around the out side.
well you get the idea its only on paper at the moment







cheers Rod

[toranarod]

Hi folks, Hi toranarod, It could be possible he is referring to the same effect Richard Willis discovered. Richard basically discovered it while operating a bedini or Adams type repulsion motor setup. And Richard Willis claims the output frequency is multiplied by some effect caused by the permanent magnet at back side of coil/core. This could be what he means by amplify 1000 times the base strength. Though i've read it takes some doing to tune the Willis setup, to get it to output the excess energy effect. Though essentially, the setup is what were doing here and all you would need to do is add magnets to back of cores. Here is a diagram, I added magnet and coil polarities. Also there may be an error in the wiring as far as diodes, I'm not sure. Just about finishing my coils for my motor.



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Tyson

that looks easy enough to setup and run a few test
Thanks for the information.

there is something i will draw up and show you later.
after reading up on Parallel path motor. and switching fixed magnets
I had an idea

cheers Rod

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, Hi toranarod, It could be possible he is referring to the same effect Richard Willis discovered. Richard basically discovered it while operating a bedini or Adams type repulsion motor setup. And Richard Willis claims the output frequency is multiplied by some effect caused by the permanent magnet at back side of coil/core. This could be what he means by amplify 1000 times the base strength. Though i've read it takes some doing to tune the Willis setup, to get it to output the excess energy effect. Though essentially, the setup is what were doing here and all you would need to do is add magnets to back of cores. Here is a diagram, I added magnet and coil polarities. Also there may be an error in the wiring as far as diodes, I'm not sure. Just about finishing my coils for my motor.



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Tyson

[toranarod]

Hi Guys that all sounds very good. Both Robert and Howard Johnson independently came to the conclusion the the magnet could also be made to pulse at theoretically 1000 times its base strength. Both believed they had achieved somewhere between 200 and 250 times the magnets base strength. Thus there is a lot of potential when you hit the all right combinations in these motors. For his 10KW machine Robert was using 0.35mm Wire in his coils and each of the 2 coils was exactly 36 ohms. In series he has 72 ohms. He was not interested in counting turns but was working on a different theory of operation in these designs. Regards Russ

I find your comments about the base strength of the magnets being exceeded
by 200 times. I would like to understand this more. is there a doc on this?
thanks for the post
Rod

[RustyP]

Hi Guys that all sounds very good. Both Robert and Howard Johnson independently came to the conclusion the the magnet could also be made to pulse at theoretically 1000 times its base strength. Both believed they had achieved somewhere between 200 and 250 times the magnets base strength. Thus there is a lot of potential when you hit the all right combinations in these motors. For his 10KW machine Robert was using 0.35mm Wire in his coils and each of the 2 coils was exactly 36 ohms. In series he has 72 ohms. He was not interested in counting turns but was working on a different theory of operation in these designs. Regards Russ

[SkyWatcher]

Hi toranarod, thanks for the extra pics and information, I think that says a lot and I know others have seen the same thing, including me. I built that solid state 'POD' (power on demand) device many years back and when placing doughnut ring ferrite magnets around the coil/core and another normal shaped magnet at face of core to repel or demagnetize, then you can get it to run cold when pulsing with say a 555 timer as I did, though I forget if just using a magnet at face of core with small gap worked as well. Still working on the motor coils.
Well happy holidays, off to eat some turkey.
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Tyson