The Robert Adams Pulse Motor Design Review

[toranarod]

Hi Rod,

I have just done that, two post above. Many thanks for your unselfishness so far. Whatever you decide, do it by heart, do not feel yourself compelled by any means.

Thanks, Gyula

Thank you for your support.
the source code is gobbed gulp to most people even other programmers because its all about one person own style like an artist has his own brush stokes

[caru]

Dear Caru,

You surely will hate me for what I am writing now but please understand that if Rod wrote the source code, it is HIS intellectual property and I think that all what can be asked for is a PIC chip Ron has burnt into his source code forever (a working one plugged into a replicable setup of course) but NOT the source code itself. OF course it is exclusively Ron's decision, this is not an ego issue.

Hopefully you understand.

...

rgds, Gyula

Why should I hate you? Everyone is free to express his opinion.

The fact is that before PICs, people designed circuits with standard ICs and components, so you knew what a schematic did only by looking at it. If there is a PIC, it is a black box schematic, unless you release the source code.

So if one claims that his system is open source and that he doesn't want people "to work out the clues", and there is a PIC, you understand that the source code is necessary.

I agree Rod is so much helpful, I'm reading the thread as it develops, that's why I was thinking he was joking now.

[caru]

I have been developing equipment for free energy research for many years.
every thing i have developed is open source.
No body has every asked or wanted the source code before mostly because it is useless to other people. Can you read source code?

As I said in the previous post, the source code is necessary to fully understand your design.
I am a software programmer, so yes, I understand source code. Of course, I cannot understand source code so easily if it's not properly documented. That's why most open source code is really well documented. But I still have to study it, so if I have issue I will ask you.
The fact that most people don't understand source code, is not a reason to not release it. It's like stating that linux is open source, but since most people don't know C, it is not useful to actually release the source code. You see my point.

How is having the source code going to help you develop better energy devices?
OK How about you give me something. can use this information to a worth while purpose?
I will post some source code here on the forum.
I will give you the program if after reading it you think it will help.

I stand by my statement. its about finding a solution the the energy crises.

every body on the forum is welcome to make a comment to this thread.

cheers

How it is going to help? I ask you the same question. How is posting schematics going to help? We know it helps.
For example, since I know better Arduino than PIC, I could make a port to it. Also, I understand the role of the PIC, but I want to know exactly what it is telling to the other parts of the motor. Indeed I am not doing anything soon about this motor, apart studying it.

You want something from me? Tell me, I see what I can do. It will be very difficult that I can help you, since the only thing that is overunity here is the atoms of my home I am a beginner here, but I have my plans to help people with my programming knowledge and the little electronics knowledge that I have. You can bet it. I just opened a web site here in Italy to inform people of my country about free energy (www.energiasenzalimiti.com). Quite sure it will not help you (you can googletranslate it if you are curious), but you see the point.

You have the rights to post source code or not, but if you didn't want to, just don't call you an open source researcher, and I will respect either decision. I see that you are open source, and I understand your fears... releasing your artwork to the world, apparently for free, is not easy, so thank you once more!

Cheers, caru.

EDIT: Ok, I just had a quick look at it. I see that it is very difficult to understand (I really should do an assembler crash course study ). Seems like you cut the main loop here, I think that if you are so kind to post it, it will greatly help my understanding of your program.

[toranarod]

[toranarod]

One other thing. If anybody wants a programed PIC chip just ask?
to easy to do, I can pop one in the post. you can pay for the processor and the postage.

Thanks to ever one for there support.

best Regards Rod

[caru]

Thank you for the opportunity you give me to get your code. You should already have my email in your message box, and I will be very glad to receive it.
I agree with you that the code should not be posted here. What I still don't understand is why you don't publish it in your website shop or on panacea, and then you claim all info is open source. Publishing it open source doesn't mean you won't take credit for it. Sorry if I insist on this, but I think that it is VERY IMPORTANT that as more people as possible have access to it, when we are tuned to the fact that this is an open source project. Either publish it or please have panacea remove your open source claims, I think you agree that would be fair.
Thank you for the kind words about my website idea...
Me too, I'm sure we can cooperate to spread the word out

[toranarod]

What I still don't understand is why you don't publish it in your website shop or on panacea

I Really do not believe having the source code is in anyway helpful.
I don't understand how it can be.

If you are good enough to read somebody's source code you can write your own program in half the time.

I publish the working compiled program that you can use. and i write up dates as users request them.

[caru]

Ok, you don't want to disclose it, so your research is not open source, sorry, and it really stinks that you claimed that and now find every excuse to not open source it.
I agree any good programmer can write it. Provided that he/she has at least the pseudo code describing the algorithm. Where is the pseudo code? Should one read across all this thread to figure it out (and I really doubt it's all here) or can you give me any direction on how to fully replicate your motor without just blindly programming the PIC with a compiled program?
Maybe just reading your program user manual would be enough? I really doubt that too.

Thanks.

[toranarod]

Ok, you don't want to disclose it, so your research is not open source, sorry, and it really stinks that you claimed that and now find every excuse to not open source it.
I agree any good programmer can write it. Provided that he/she has at least the pseudo code describing the algorithm. Where is the pseudo code? Should one read across all this thread to figure it out (and I really doubt it's all here) or can you give me any direction on how to fully replicate your motor without just blindly programming the PIC with a compiled program?
Maybe just reading your program user manual would be enough? I really doubt that too.

Thanks.

i said you can have it send me your email address
what is your email address?

[toranarod]

i said you can have it send me your email address
what is your email address?

here is a down load link

http://www.thehydrogenshop.com/Over_Unity_PDF/PW.pdf

[toranarod]

Ok, you don't want to disclose it, so your research is not open source, sorry, and it really stinks that you claimed that and now find every excuse to not open source it.
I agree any good programmer can write it. Provided that he/she has at least the pseudo code describing the algorithm. Where is the pseudo code? Should one read across all this thread to figure it out (and I really doubt it's all here) or can you give me any direction on how to fully replicate your motor without just blindly programming the PIC with a compiled program?
Maybe just reading your program user manual would be enough? I really doubt that too.

Thanks.

making those accusation has over steeped the boundaries of good faith and trust that this forum is all about. there was no need to say those hurtfully things when they are not true.
I have given up a lot of my time create and publish information with no financial reward.

i hope you can do the same
good luck

[IndianaBoys]

Ok, you don't want to disclose it, so your research is not open source, sorry, and it really stinks that you claimed that and now find every excuse to not open source it.
I agree any good programmer can write it. Provided that he/she has at least the pseudo code describing the algorithm. Where is the pseudo code? Should one read across all this thread to figure it out (and I really doubt it's all here) or can you give me any direction on how to fully replicate your motor without just blindly programming the PIC with a compiled program?
Maybe just reading your program user manual would be enough? I really doubt that too.

Thanks.

Caru,

Please direct us to a thread you have started and contributed to.

IndianaBoys

[caru]

making those accusation has over steeped the boundaries of good faith and trust that this forum is all about. there was no need to say those hurtfully things when they are not true.
I have given up a lot of my time create and publish information with no financial reward.

i hope you can do the same
good luck

THANK YOU!!!

My accusations were as hurtfully as your responses, for me. We live in a world of smart people, so if you want trust you have to be transparent.
I hope you will have all the finances needed to quickly advance in your research, and all you have done till now is remarkable.

Now that this project really is open source, I will do my best to let as much people as possible know how fantastic you are and how open your project is, in the hope that they will contribute some way to your research.

[caru]

Caru,

Please direct us to a thread you have started and contributed to.

IndianaBoys

I am very sorry but I can't. Though, this doesn't disqualify me from posting my thoughts here.

Cheers, caru.

[IndianaBoys]

I am very sorry but I can't. Though, this doesn't disqualify me from posting my thoughts here.

Cheers, caru.

Caru,

Your reply above reads hypocritical. You are accusing Toranorod of what you are doing. Time to look in the mirror and treat yourself like you treated Toranorod.

IndianaBoys