gravity waves found

[witsend]

I am of the opinion that patterns exist in nature that are - of themselves - based on priciples akin to fractal geometry. I see what I personally find to be self-evident. Nature repeats itself in ever more substantial forms. For example I propose that the atom comprises hidden orbiting two dimensional magnetic fields that orbit at different energy levels. These trap the electrons. Then we see that a sun would have similar two dimensional magnetic fields - hidden energy levels and they, in turn, would trap it's planets. If so, then accreted objects within and between those energy levels would orbit much as the electron orbits the atom's nucleus. And then our own star stystem would be trapped inside the energy level of the entire galaxy. And on and on.

It really does not matter whether any of those planets have their own magnetic fields - such as our earth. The fields in which they are trapped would determine their orbit depending on their position within that magnetic field - that energy level. The 'lock' would result in an orbit. An axial spin would be evidence of an independent magnetic field from that planet. But both objects would be forced into an orbit much as the electron is forced into an orbit.

But here's my caveat. That's only an idea. It's NOT proven. LOL

EDIT I might add that this would require the existence of a magnetic field as an independent force with it's own fields and it's own particles. My thesis argues this.

[witsend]

Anyone who proposes the actual properties of gravity will need to speculate on this. The simple fact is that no-one knows. And the only way to find this would be to design a series of tests that can actually definitively prove it. It has puzzled us all for centuries and has remained as elusive. There are proposals that the force is particle based - a graviton - but those gravitons have never been seen. Even if extant they only answer some questions. Others have proposed longitudinal forces - string theorists - but they can only reconcile this with the introductions of multiple dimensions. The simple truth is that everyone is simply stabbing at potential answers. Right now - mainstream - brilliant academics - our Giants - our forum members - and a whole host of people have proposed myriad explanations that have this in common. Each one varies, one from another. And as they become increasingly more complex they also become increasingly less understandable. It is almost as if clarity of argument is somehow sacrificed to Occam's requirement for simplicity. They frankly, become less and less plausible requiring little conceptual coherence and very little observed relevance. It is my opinion that anyone who quotes mainstream as an authority on the subject would first need the caveat that all such 'proposals' are UNPROVEN.

Bear in mind. THE SOURCE AND CAUSE OF GRAVITY IS ENTIRELY UNKNOWN. But we do know something about light. And what we know is that the only thing that can naturally 'change' the path of light is massive objects in space that seem to allow light to bend around those objects.

Which is why Dave's discovery is important. It gives us a chance to look at similar effects of gravity as it influences light in actual tangible apparatus.

[Harvey]

If Gravity was related to a planet's magnetic field in some way then Mars and Venus would be in trouble - there is practically no evidence of those planets having a magnetic field.

Magnetic Fields and Mars

If Gravity was related to some electrical effect like the ionosphere and surface being different charges, then wouldn't we expect all gravitational bodies like the asteroid belt, Moon and Comets to not have gravity since they have no atmosphere?


Also having a look at the 'New Gravity' link (I've seen this before but I don't think it was finished back then) we have a small problem with section 5 that attributes the gravitational force to an electromagnetic induction according to the the 'New Induction' - but what about those celestial bodies that have no electromagnetic fields? Why do they have gravity? Perhaps it has to do with the BMP and the fact that all atoms are electromagnetic Hmmm, an in rushing Aether . . . must be an endless supply if all the celestial bodies destroy it. I have to think on that theory a while but it does sound much more plausible to me than a universe filled with tiny magnetic dipoles as Ed Leedskalnin theorized.

[sucahyo]

New Gravity is a theoretical model for gravity based on the aether by Distinti. I think the theory is sound.

Too many equation lol.

However, I don't agree with gravity as electromagnetic force. Because the candle fire is blown straight by the negative HV point, I say gravity is an effect of electricity, kind of strong ion wind but not caused by the magnetism that produced by current. In my opinion, gravity goes perpendicular with voltage, a product of huge voltage, not current.

Since the earth center is negative, gravity goes straight down to earth. There is less gravity in space because there is less electric polarity in space.

[gravityblock]

New Gravity is a theoretical model for gravity based on the aether by Distinti. I think the theory is sound.

GB

[sucahyo]

Some idea.

Gravity happen because earth is generating electricity. Rotating current/voltage around the equator make magnetic induction and produce north polarity at earth south pole attracting magnetic north to earth north pole. Rotation also force the outside part become more positive than the inside. The atmosphere is positive, the earth center is negative. Huge earth voltage potential create gravity. Things get attracted by HV negative mass but blown away / repelled by pointed one. Uneven ground insulation property make different electric potential, this create uneven gravity accross the surface of the earth.

What David Lambright observe is a magnification of effect using device that store usable voltage potential as a magnetic link.

The above is just what I have in mind now .

[david lambright]

check this out...

thoughts...looking at some OOPartifacts...small helical metal pieces..could they be wave guides?...Ed said that MC runs flows in metal easier than in air....just a thought...david...i am looking for the link...

[Harvey]

Everyone assumes that gravity waves are verticle in nature. What if it were found that they were instead,not vericle or horizontal,but at some angle in between. Since gravity waves have never been observed,and neither has magnetic waves, it could be that they travel in the same plane,possibly together in parallel, or intertwined as in a helix. Throw in aetheric waves, and we could end up with a double helix.It would not be absurd to think these three waves could not only travel together, but could spin as they traveled.If David's machine sonehow intersepted,reflected,or refracted these wavelengths,then the colors that they produce could be duplicated by the corresponding frequency of the colors.This would gvie us ample opportunity to study these waves in more detail.Maybe these waves are invisible, but only because the we are yet to deveope the correct geometric shape machine for detecting these. Or, they could not even consist of waves at all,but some other highly evolved systems that we have yet to discover. It is very possible that the pyramids were able to use these waves as power. If we could increase David's machine to the power of Leedskalnin's. then we may be able to produce unliminted power from the wheelworks of nature, just as Tesla described.Good Luck. Stealth

Everyone?

Your point is well taken, but actually Gravity Waves are very tiny things caused by extremely massive objects light years away and they are longitudinal like sound waves. So they are neither vertical nor horizontal but instead are detected as changes in space-time along the propagation path.

From the link above:

Since the waves are so weak when they reach us, scientists had to use their imaginations to come up with instruments sensitive enough to detect such slight variations in space-time.

Question for Readers:
How much mass would an object need to have to create a measurable gravity wave on Earth?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7Babitv4Fg&feature=fvw


Imagine that Gravity is not leaking into or out of other dimensions, but rather is sliced up in time. Now, imagine that the strong nuclear force is really Gravity at full strength. How could that be? Because the Nuclear assembly exists in the same exact infinitesimal time (in phase) while the rest of the atomic particles and even other nuclei in the same material are out of phase and exist in other extremely minute time slices. Therefore, the gravitational effect is only an average of many very small time slices that overlap each other by some value. Only those things that are in perfect time experience full force of gravity and those things that are out of perfect time with all other particles experience none.

Gravity does not bend light.

Mass bends space because it displaces it.

Gravity is curved space.

Light follows space whether it is straight or curved.

Space is curved around subatomic mass. Light follows those curves and interacts with the atom electromagnetically. The photon never touches the atomic particles - it exchanges energy electromagnetically. Light does not 'bounce' off of a mirror. It is absorbed and re-emitted at the atomic level.

It is electromagnetism and curved space in the atom that alters the path of the photon during reflection and refraction.

Therefore, the bending of light around a massive star and the gravity of that star are both caused by the same thing: The curvature of space caused by the mass displacement. You can have all the mass in the universe in a single place and if it does not bend space, light will travel in a straight line right past it unaffected. So it is the curvature of space that bends the path of light, not gravity.

[sucahyo]

David, can you test with candle light and see if it move them?

I ask because yesterday I play with high voltage DC dominant that blow a candle fire. HV bare wire do not suck the fire when the bare wire is placed inside the fire. It seems HV at large area attract the light when far.

If the effect move candle light, then the effect has electric feature.

Only picture, sorry.

[Harvey]

This is really a strange one. I did the same exact test and my phone rang just fine. Here's a video of my experiment.

YouTube - Testing Mobile Phone Inside Home Made Faraday Cage


TheTruthBeKnown

This is explained very well by this lesson from MIT:
YouTube - Lec 5 | MIT 8.02 Electricity and Magnetism, Spring 2002

At 48 minutes Professor Lewin actually demonstrates the exact same thing and tells us why a Faraday Cage will not block all frequencies.

We can take this a step further from Professor Lewins lesson and look at the radio waves as photons. A photon is an Electro-magnetic charge carrier. While the Faraday cage (even those with openings all over the place) work very well to keep the Electric charges outside, they do absolutely nothing to keep the magnetic charges outside. Now, if you were to make your cage of some highly permeable material like HyMu-80 or Nanoperm, then the cage can route the magnetic field away from the interior, but Aluminum has a permeabilityHow Radio Waves Are Produced

[Harvey]

If the magnetic domains of the iron would align more readily when hot, perhaps someone should try heating up a ring to red hot and energize it. (I was thinking about the rings of power being forged in fire. [the hobbit] ) With the added softness of the metal, it would make better contact in the gap too!

Actually just the opposite is true. As the material is heated, the kinetic energy overwhelms the domains and prohibits them from aligning due to all the random vibrations. This is called the Curie Point, or Curie Temperature.

Here is a video demonstrating this truth:
YouTube - M.I.T. - Walter Lewin - Ferromagnetic Curie Point

[david lambright]

hi...

bruce...try taking a piece of plexi glass and move it around near the device...you should feel a cool sensation from the edge of the plexiglass.....or use a glass jar..hold the mouth of the jar at equatorabout 12" away.....i am at work right now ...more when i get home....david...PS, the transparent medium serves as a wave guide....

[SuperCaviTationIstic]

If the magnetic domains of the iron would align more readily when hot, perhaps someone should try heating up a ring to red hot and energize it. (I was thinking about the rings of power being forged in fire. [the hobbit] ) With the added softness of the metal, it would make better contact in the gap too!

[gravityblock]

Using a lens with a thin layer of sandwiched ferro colloidal fluid to map a magnetic field via optic affects of the field on the magnetic fluid. Blue LED's of the apparatus are spaced at 9 degrees, facing inward directed at the edge of the lens. Notice when the ring magnet (poles facing front/back of the ring) is perpendicular to the fluid plane inside the lens, it then greatly bends the light from each of the leds. I've never seen anything bend light like the magnets in this video. Note -- Most of the time in this video, the magnet is on edge and it is the profile view of the magnetic field we are seeing!

Red, yellow and green radial LED's are spaced evenly; facing inward into the edge of the lens. The light from the LED's warps around the magnets as it passes through the fluid.

For additional information on the above technique for viewing magnetic fields in real time, youtube user SirZerp has released an excellent pdf article titled, Photographing Magnetic Lines of Constant Scalar Potential. Also, there is a thesis.zip at the bottom of this page, which is four years of work (120 page thesis with supporting file), by the author in a single 1 GB file. Here is a quick overview of the technique.

There is also a technique for viewing the magnetic field lines in 3D with the Dynamic Etalon method. Here's a video showing the real-time holographic representation of magnetic flux is clearly visible to the observer or image recorder.

GB

[Stealth]

Everyone assumes that gravity waves are verticle in nature. What if it were found that they were instead,not vericle or horizontal,but at some angle in between. Since gravity waves have never been observed,and neither has magnetic waves, it could be that they travel in the same plane,possibly together in parallel, or intertwined as in a helix. Throw in aetheric waves, and we could end up with a double helix.It would not be absurd to think these three waves could not only travel together, but could spin as they traveled.If David's machine sonehow intersepted,reflected,or refracted these wavelengths,then the colors that they produce could be duplicated by the corresponding frequency of the colors.This would gvie us ample opportunity to study these waves in more detail.Maybe these waves are invisible, but only because the we are yet to deveope the correct geometric shape machine for detecting these. Or, they could not even consist of waves at all,but some other highly evolved systems that we have yet to discover. It is very possible that the pyramids were able to use these waves as power. If we could increase David's machine to the power of Leedskalnin's. then we may be able to produce unliminted power from the wheelworks of nature, just as Tesla described.Good Luck. Stealth