437.88 Hz

[Aaron]

I'm putting this here for a better location for discussion on 437.88 Hz vs 432 Hz, etc.

[Jay89]

i'm here to talk about using 432hzconverter.com algorithm for eric dollard's great work, and as my friend aaron encouraged me to make it public on this forum.
take care, friends

[dR-Green]

i'm here to talk about using 432hzconverter.com algorithm for eric dollard's great work, and as my friend aaron encouraged me to make it public on this forum.
take care, friends

I'd say that web site is just a gimmick. The same can be achieved through playing a vinyl at a slightly faster or slower RPM on a record player, or the same with a cassette tape.

The web site states:

Alternative pitches are often said to sound better, be more harmonic, and have transcendental powers.

But you can probably deduce that's a lot of hogwash when all you're doing is tuning the whole recording up or down. How can it be "more harmonic"? The harmonies and ratios are all exactly the same as before, only now at a slightly higher or lower pitch. It can't retroactively change the microtuning of all the instruments in the recording, for example if you tune A4 on a guitar that's in your hands down to 432 Hz, the frets are fixed so each note will maintain the same ratios as before, it won't suddenly become "more harmonic". That is to say, detuning your guitar won't turn it into a Pythagorean guitar. It will just be a regular guitar tuned to a lower pitch. If you want a Pythagorean guitar then you need to adjust all the frets accordingly. Detuning it is not the same thing.

[Jay89]

I'd say that web site is just a gimmick. The same can be achieved through playing a vinyl at a slightly faster or slower RPM on a record player, or the same with a cassette tape.

The web site states:



But you can probably deduce that's a lot of hogwash when all you're doing is tuning the whole recording up or down. How can it be "more harmonic"? The harmonies and ratios are all exactly the same as before, only now at a slightly higher or lower pitch. It can't retroactively change the microtuning of all the instruments in the recording, for example if you tune A4 on a guitar that's in your hands down to 432 Hz, the frets are fixed so each note will maintain the same ratios as before, it won't suddenly become "more harmonic". That is to say, detuning your guitar won't turn it into a Pythagorean guitar. It will just be a regular guitar tuned to a lower pitch. If you want a Pythagorean guitar then you need to adjust all the frets accordingly. Detuning it is not the same thing.

of course i respect what you're assuming, as i haven't explained myself yet, but i hate 432 hertz so i will elaborate before you assume. i delete 432 and i type 437.88, for example,

i wanted to keep this private between me and aaron, as i'm an introvert that doesn't like people, but since aaron encouraged me to go public with my findings on this forum, i will muster

up extra compassion, patience, kindness to explain myself, so please let me explain before you assume. thank you, friend.

432 is a hoax, 437.88 is golden ratio, fibonacci sequence, let me copy & paste the math i emailed to aaron, hold on please

this is what I meant about 432hzconverter.com, and 109.47 is the magic number. 109.47x4= 437.88, 437.88 hz music better than 426.67 hz music

i discovered 109.47 through golden ratio & fibonacci numbers, but i freestyled some wiki explanations for you since people don't respect the golden ratio like i respect the golden ratio

but no one respects the fibonacci sequence like i respect the fibonacci sequence, 109.47 divided by the fibonacci 0.89 = whole number 123

there's a reason that i call 89 the Jesus number out of all fibonaccis, never mind that 0.89 x 2 =1.78 amd 1.78 - 0.1618181818... = 1.61818181818...

as a math engineer, you know that new discoveries are validated by the computation into whole numbers to justify your work, not always, but it is often

Joseph Plateau is the father of 109.47, and its also called the Weaire–Phelan structure

you can google: 109.47 Invariant lines in the Euclidean plane ... ... 109.47 x 4 = 437.88 hertz music frequency ... ... 437.88 is better than 426.67

like i said, i have my golden ratio formulas to prove my math, you can test both at 432hzconverter.com if you don't believe me

i have many more maths, many more geometric equations, many more golden ratio, fibonacci formulas, but i will end with this small portion so i'm not superfluous nor overwhelming you all.

take care and god bless, all my friends here

[Jay89]

I'd say that web site is just a gimmick. The same can be achieved through playing a vinyl at a slightly faster or slower RPM on a record player, or the same with a cassette tape.

The web site states:



But you can probably deduce that's a lot of hogwash when all you're doing is tuning the whole recording up or down. How can it be "more harmonic"? The harmonies and ratios are all exactly the same as before, only now at a slightly higher or lower pitch. It can't retroactively change the microtuning of all the instruments in the recording, for example if you tune A4 on a guitar that's in your hands down to 432 Hz, the frets are fixed so each note will maintain the same ratios as before, it won't suddenly become "more harmonic". That is to say, detuning your guitar won't turn it into a Pythagorean guitar. It will just be a regular guitar tuned to a lower pitch. If you want a Pythagorean guitar then you need to adjust all the frets accordingly. Detuning it is not the same thing.

of course i respect what you're assuming, as i haven't explained myself yet, but i hate 432 hertz so i will elaborate. i delete 432 and i type 437.88, for example,
please let me explain before you assume. thank you, friend.
432 is a hoax, 437.88 is golden ratio, fibonacci sequence, let me copy & paste some of my math i got on file, hold on please
this is what I meant about 432hzconverter.com, and 109.47 is the magic number. 109.47x4= 437.88, 437.88 hz music better than 426.67 hz music
i discovered 109.47 through golden ratio & fibonacci numbers, but i freestyled some wiki explanations for you since people don't respect the golden ratio like i respect the golden ratio
but no one respects the fibonacci sequence like i respect the fibonacci sequence, 109.47 divided by the fibonacci 0.89 = whole number 123
there's a reason that i call 89 the Jesus number out of all fibonaccis, never mind that 0.89 x 2 =1.78 amd 1.78 - 0.1618181818... = 1.61818181818...
as a math engineer, you know that new discoveries are validated by the computation into whole numbers to justify your work, not always, but it is often
Joseph Plateau is the father of 109.47, and its also called the Weaire–Phelan structure
you can google: 109.47 Invariant lines in the Euclidean plane ... ... 109.47 x 4 = 437.88 hertz music frequency ... ... 437.88 is better than 426.67
like i said, i have my golden ratio formulas to prove my math, you can test both at 432hzconverter.com if you don't believe me
i have many more maths, many more geometric equations, many more golden ratio, fibonacci formulas, but i will end with this small portion so i'm not superfluous nor overwhelming you all.
take care and god bless, all my friends here

[Jay89]

using J.S.Bach - Cantata BWV 147 through https://www.432hzconverter.com to prove that 432 is a hoax and 437.88 is the truth

[Tom Wlazlak]

hello, Jay89; I have a study of magic numbers from the pyramids of Egypt; and places 432 or 864 is the time in seconds of a day being 86400 and so on 528 is a mile 5280
On the great Pyramids I have moved them and put circles per a size related in feet to 500 / 1000 and 1071 what this has done is allowed the corners and center of the pyramids to produce circles that produce prime number and times and locations related to the universe; one such item is on this forum right now in the string and post (Pyramids)

years ago I sent a letter to Mr.. Dollard about my energy technology I have developed; he seemed not to be interested; he never returned comment; maybe it way over his head. or something;

But magic numbers; What I have found is when using any numbers; they are magic; anything is possible if you try to make the number do what you want them to do; personally I have thousands of
combinations that relate to everything; and back and forth up and down; ( I think it is something in the human DNA that connects us to the magic numbers )

like - 3 / 6 / 9 - 17 -31 - 37 - 51 - 85 - 87 -98.6 - 89 - 93 - 103 - 108 - 131 - 137 - 152 - 189 - 193 - 212 - 240 - 267 - 293 - 313 - 413 - 429 - 432 - 440 - 459 - 461 - 486 - 503 - 586 - and so on;

too many to count; Din ma - Tom - EttCM energy technology labs.

[dR-Green]

of course i respect what you're assuming, as i haven't explained myself yet, but i hate 432 hertz so i will elaborate. i delete 432 and i type 437.88, for example,
please let me explain before you assume. thank you, friend.
432 is a hoax, 437.88 is golden ratio, fibonacci sequence, let me copy & paste some of my math i got on file, hold on please
this is what I meant about 432hzconverter.com, and 109.47 is the magic number. 109.47x4= 437.88, 437.88 hz music better than 426.67 hz music
i discovered 109.47 through golden ratio & fibonacci numbers, but i freestyled some wiki explanations for you since people don't respect the golden ratio like i respect the golden ratio
but no one respects the fibonacci sequence like i respect the fibonacci sequence, 109.47 divided by the fibonacci 0.89 = whole number 123
there's a reason that i call 89 the Jesus number out of all fibonaccis, never mind that 0.89 x 2 =1.78 amd 1.78 - 0.1618181818... = 1.61818181818...
as a math engineer, you know that new discoveries are validated by the computation into whole numbers to justify your work, not always, but it is often
Joseph Plateau is the father of 109.47, and its also called the Weaire–Phelan structure
you can google: 109.47 Invariant lines in the Euclidean plane ... ... 109.47 x 4 = 437.88 hertz music frequency ... ... 437.88 is better than 426.67
like i said, i have my golden ratio formulas to prove my math, you can test both at 432hzconverter.com if you don't believe me
i have many more maths, many more geometric equations, many more golden ratio, fibonacci formulas, but i will end with this small portion so i'm not superfluous nor overwhelming you all.
take care and god bless, all my friends here

Without getting into too much detail, I'd just like to mention that precise frequencies are only really applicable to digital instruments. While it's obviously not technically impossible, one could say it's practically impossible that anyone can tune an acoustic or analogue instrument where A4 = 440.00 Hz exactly, and likewise 437.88 Hz is close to impossible in practice. You can only really do that consistently with digital instruments. So A4 in your Bach attachment is unlikely to be precisely 437.88 Hz because the original tuning wouldn't have been precisely 440.00 Hz because it was played on an acoustic piano which would have been tuned by ear. But honestly, it just sounds a little flat relative to the original to me, neither one sounds "better" than the other.

If you have any software instruments you can generate microtuning files to import and play around with here:

https://sevish.com/scaleworkshop/?n=12-tone%20equal%20temperament&l=2s._5k._8c._b4._dw._go._jg._m8._p0._rs._uk._xc.&m=1l&y=46&version=2.5.7