Donald L Smith

[baroutologos]

I was re-viewing the metakafe video (most recent) of Don smith and looking again the experiment of a small Tesla coil sparking to the other side of a custom, two plate capacitor. (and of course the theories that accompany it...)

I re-looked the Don Smith pdf, with his suggested resonance methods, and again i saw the patent with the "Tube dipole" and the rough, big, ultra-low capacity (few picofarads i could say) two plates metal capacitor for "collecting" magnetic flux or whatever.

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I should mention, that the low picofarad cap, have the unexplained by me yet property of stepping down tesla coil's Hv from the HV tip, enough to light a bulb, provided the other plate of the cap is grounded. (for a link browse back this topic. Its a german site)

Its propably nothing special, but i noticed he utilizes two different metals as the cap plates. One alluminum and the other copper. Does it makes any difference?
I have seen again the same motivo of proffesor Brown, if i am no mistaken that claims he had made a device, again from metal plates of different composition.

Any ideas?

Baroutologos

[h2ocommuter]

sorry I lost my link?

Again this is just my clamp meter excitment. I have yet to wire up my IT,buy and install the varacte,r four groundings. and a circuit breaker box. this is a mile away. and I am walking.

in the hunt.

I have two videos, I will make a third about the resonant effects soon.

http://www.energeticforum.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=77854

[h2ocommuter]

Block wall L-2 Amperes side!

Thanks Braden,
The copy I had of this video was so grainy that is was almost unbarable to watch, I had that copy a couple of weeks befor you posted this.
Today looking for things I may have missed I visited your link. YouTube - free energy geo 3- Free Energy? Earth Battery? Part 3 of 7

23 seconds of part three it clearly shows the L-1 almost completely over one side of L-2, confirming what DS had said about getting amps from one side of a L-2

This is no doubt related to the model Donald smith demonstrated

YouTube - Free Energy Geo 1- Earth Battery? Free Energy? Part 1 of 7

[h2ocommuter]

Again this is just my clamp meter excitment. I have yet to wire up my IT,buy and install the varacte,r four groundings. and a circuit breaker box. this is a mile away. and I am walking.

in the hunt.

[bobo36us]

h20........over 100 amps???

sounds to me like a working Don Smith device

I hope you will share a video with us soon

[h2ocommuter]

Not a mile stone yet, but for me a nice stride tward my build.

I got my clampmeter in and tested the plasma globe. it confirmed the same frequencies that my other meter did and the amperage without loading it was over 100 amperes. OMG that sound soo good!

I can keep the freq at 50 k "full tilt boogie", on my L-2 so this is going to be more than the 12,800 KVA my output transformer can handlle.
I can bring it down with the pots on the plasma globe.

I am building the mathmatical equasions I want to see in my replication journal so I am just moving a little slow.

Don said the frequencies will take care of themselves when I put the resistor into the path of the IT, so I am not going to worry about it.

I am going to build a two plug spark gap to relieve voltages on both sides of L-2 connected to ground for more neg. This combined with the resistor should be enough of an orifice to limit the input to the IT.

[baroutologos]

Well Done Dragon. I guess we have some clue then..
Anyway, it must be more investigated the concept.

I was wondering, how you can have a primary L1 coil oscillating at 30Khz and a secondary L2 coil / transformer corrected at 50 Hz? Do not know...

Baroutologos

[dragon]

I thought about what Don said about using resistor in output transformer. What if he simple matched transformer to the oil caps bank to get resonant circuit of 60Hz and then resistor is used ONLY to step down voltage using resistor divider because the original 8kV is too high for transformer or maybe FET's used to oscillate it ?

I was doing some experiments with some caps today trying to alter capacitance or add inductance to alter the resonant frequency. It started because I dont have fractional caps and even 1/10th of a pf can be 100khz off resonance. I was shooting for 8.8mHz and the cap needed was 33.9pf to work with the coil.

Long story short... The resistor placed across the output transformer alters the inductance thus changing the frequency ( reactance / impedance ).

As a test I used a MOT that had a primary winding inductance of 59mh and with a 1.5k ohm resistor across it it measured at 50mh.

I'm not sure how to calculate this yet but using the chart does give you a ball park figure of which resistor to use at a given frequency.

I haven't tested it in a live circuit yet, only going by my LCR meter at this point. It also changes capacitance values which brought me to the test initially....
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[boguslaw]

Maybe electricity is composed of two dielectric longitudinal waves flowing in opposite direction.One is left hand spiral and one is right hand spiral. When each of these flow separate it has electrostatic - like properties, but when they both meet they produce magnetic field and flow together but with friction related to the fact that they fill the same space and curl into each other without changing direction.

Well it's how Ed Leedscalnin described it (with my little speculations added)

[baroutologos]

I was pondering on Tesla sayings, Eric Dollard experiments and Don Smith sayings...

I can clearly see, that almost each one hold his views about what the Great man has said. But a striking difference between Tesla's saying - Eric Dollard teachings and Don Smith theories is the contrast between Electrostatic field usefulness to magnetic field.

Tesla patents are all skewed towards creation of enormous electrostatic fields. Eric Dollard says that Tesla technology and longitudinal wave ia electrostatic or dielectric based. He pointed that "when great magnetic fields are involved you are losing ground" (see newer video part 4 i think)

On the contrary Don Smith, says the electrical component of electricity is always a loss. Go for the magnetic component. This is free energy!

NOT even in theory we have agreement here.. not to speak in practice.


Baroutologos

[baroutologos]

I thought about what Don said about using resistor in output transformer. What if he simple matched transformer to the oil caps bank to get resonant circuit of 60Hz and then resistor is used ONLY to step down voltage using resistor divider because the original 8kV is too high for transformer or maybe FET's used to oscillate it ?

There is no need man at trying deciphering things all the time. The man was very specific about the resistor and suggested the charts fir defining it.

Two scenarios for me. Either he does not know wtf he is saying, or trying to mislead replicators. There is a third remote possibility of a resistor to correct the frequency.
If that's is the case, books should be re-written.

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@ Seth,
the grounded wire its necessary for perfomance. It surely does not work in a conventional way of closed circuit. I can speculate that the ground provides an infinite capacitance and hence the oscillating current works at maximum.

I have seen also elsewhere, that a vaccum cap(500pf 10Kv ?) connected to ground can act as a STEPDOWN transformer. By the way the caps being handy to me did not make the trick.

Baroutologos

ps: by the way, you can use the current multiplier circuit and find-out performance, in a simple manner.

[seth]

Can you show us picture of your Tesla coil with bulb ?

Like all my videos its terrible quality - i have to turn the lights off just so you can see the bulb is certainly lighting. And the spark gap is very very noisy.

YouTube - MrFlathunter's Channel

So, why do you suppose the wire which is attached to nothing except the output (?) terminal of the bulb is so necessary?? As long as the wire is there it works....why wouldnt it work without the wire?

Thanks for the link to the other thread - i read it with great interest and saw that this topic was discussed, but i still fail to understand why the hanging wire is necessary- and i feel like the only way i will start to understand why is if i keep playing with it over the weekend when i have some free time. I'll try touching the end of the wire to various conductors and insulators around my flat, and hope for some more interesting results. I'll also try connecting it to the top of my secondary (at the moment its at the bottom), whereas ill try making another ''ground'' at the bottom...maybe just use a huge chunk of metal, like the top capacitor toroid.....who knows???

My motto is try everything, and then ye shall understand

Edit: I have a HV doorknob capacitor that i bought for pennies in one of the local markets ages ago, and have yet to put to good use - any suggestions for how i make it handy?? i remember one of destines vids showing a cap in a metal cup...maybe ill try the same. all suggestions welcome

[boguslaw]

I thought about what Don said about using resistor in output transformer. What if he simple matched transformer to the oil caps bank to get resonant circuit of 60Hz and then resistor is used ONLY to step down voltage using resistor divider because the original 8kV is too high for transformer or maybe FET's used to oscillate it ?

[baroutologos]

See my thread http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...il-ground.html

This guy is named Destine. I have been communicating with him. He provided the specs for my SSTC. I have been able to light also incadescent lamps etc.

I installed an analog current meter via chokes for better accuracy. My tesla coil with the bulb and optimum adjustment outputs as far as 50% in terms of bulb brightness.

I told destine how he managed to light a 100 watt bulb with an 35 watt input. He suggested to try different winding.
I made yesterday another secondary winding of ... 0.3mm wire at 600 mm lentgh! (it took me 3 days to wind - First secondary is from 0.5mm wire at 580mm length) Although more powerful, it consumes a lot more input.
My input with the more turns secondary is 5-6 amps at 25 volts. I can fully light an 75 watt lamp (incadescence)

I communicated with him and kindly ask him to privide some proof that actually he is using 30 watts for lighting a 100 watt bulb fully. He did not.

Note that measuring current with DMM is just USELESS. The setup can upset a DMM at the input of the 220v transformer.! RF can easily pass capacitors, chokes (ferrites 8 mH), (2) and the transformer iron!!!

Actually my DMM goes crazy in the vicinity of this coil.
It is not overunity in that way for sure.

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As for the wire in order to light the lamp... just try using ground. A good grounding is by FAR the best way for maximum efficiency.

Baroutologos

[boguslaw]

Can you show us picture of your Tesla coil with bulb ?