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  • wings
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    Originally posted by pjotterkjen View Post
    Would anybody know of a good supplier of ring magnets? I have been looking around here and only found one store so far, they're specialized in all sorts of magnets but they haven't got what I'm looking for and custom orders have a minimum of 3000 dollars... that's way out of budget! They do have ring magnets but the inner diameter is at most 1.5 inch, too small and I don't know if it would be possible to increase the inner diameter with machinery.
    What am I looking for? Core ferrite, polarization over the diameter, outer diameter about 3 inch, inner diameter about 2.5 inch, and thickness about 2 inch, or that could be several aligned ring magnets also. If they have a website please include the link.
    TIA!
    google_search for microwave magnets
    you can easy remove from old magnetron

    Stuff: Microwave Oven

    information here:
    Magnets around the house

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  • Gazzasore
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    Do you mean Speaker Magnets
    They are easy enough to get

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  • pjotterkjen
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    Looking for ring magnets supplier!

    Would anybody know of a good supplier of ring magnets? I have been looking around here and only found one store so far, they're specialized in all sorts of magnets but they haven't got what I'm looking for and custom orders have a minimum of 3000 dollars... that's way out of budget! They do have ring magnets but the inner diameter is at most 1.5 inch, too small and I don't know if it would be possible to increase the inner diameter with machinery.
    What am I looking for? Core ferrite, polarization over the diameter, outer diameter about 3 inch, inner diameter about 2.5 inch, and thickness about 2 inch, or that could be several aligned ring magnets also. If they have a website please include the link.
    TIA!

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  • GSM
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    Originally posted by adam_mizer View Post
    For the transformers since they are 1 to 5 ratio, lets say 1 = 24v and 5 = 120v.
    Transformers made for air conditioning industry and used in most of all the FAU units in our homes to control the condenser contactor are 24v.
    But they are 5 turns primary to 1 turn secondary.
    I'm just guessing these would work and they are mostly 40va secondary.
    If they are 40watt secondary they are roughly over 1.5 ampere secondary, which is only 0.3 ampere at 120v primary.
    My question is about the primary power for the load from the Hendershot Generator.
    Is the transformer the supplier of current to the load or does L1? also supply current?
    Please note that Hendershot's original transformers were the type they used within tube driven television frame output stages.

    110/120-24Vac transformers were available in his day but he did not use them !!!!!

    Frame output transformers have a much high frequency response as was required by the saw-wave type of field-beam TV deflection required.

    If you wish to use a modern 50/60Hz mains transformer as a substitute within in a Hendershot replication it might be better -
    to split the core out from its mounting bracket -
    cut neatly through its side welds in order to separate the 'I' header from the 'E' core -
    insert a piece of normal 80g copying paper between the 'E' and 'I' parts of core -
    ensure the transformer is clamped tightly back together, or sealed back together with superglue whilst the 'E' and 'I' are clamped.

    The transformers are connected with the series capacitors to turn the overwind pulses from the centre magnetic frequency regulator into alternate/ongoing rolled phase impulses within the twin cores.

    Cheers .............. Graham.

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  • pjotterkjen
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    Scale 1:1 drawing template for drilling 57 pegs

    Originally posted by David G Dawson View Post

    Basket weave Coil:
    Diameter I posted earlier was incorrect and have just corrected, my apologies.
    Should be 5 15/16", 150.8125 mm.

    Smokey
    Earlier I posted a link where a scale 1:1 drawing is available, but it seems the link does not work well, so I'll upload the PDF. Credit to overunity.de.
    Attached Files

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  • adam_mizer
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    For the transformers since they are 1 to 5 ratio, lets say 1 = 24v and 5 = 120v.
    Transformers made for air conditioning industry and used in most of all the FAU units in our homes to control the condenser contactor are 24v.
    But they are 5 turns primary to 1 turn secondary.
    I'm just guessing these would work and they are mostly 40va secondary.
    If they are 40watt secondary they are roughly over 1.5 ampere secondary, which is only 0.3 ampere at 120v primary.
    My question is about the primary power for the load from the Hendershot Generator.
    Is the transformer the supplier of current to the load or does L1? also supply current?

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  • artoj
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    Schematic Clarity

    Thanks David, you have done a great job in helping all who want to get a good build with some needed details. Here is some added detail on those who have good RF and RLC skills, from page 98 in my book "Talking to the Birds". Regards Arto.

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  • David G Dawson
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    Hendershot Generator - Progressive Build

    Hendershot Progressive Build:










    These pictures are taken from a Progressive Build Document that I compiled.
    Please note that the ratio of wire size of L1/L2 & L3 are in respect to the Golden Ratio of 1.618.
    It is believed that Lester was aware of both pHi and pi and here we have chosen to work in this area between the two as you will see in the document.
    Once again, these are our own observations of what is involved with this device and may not be correct but does open up another door into the thoughts of this man and his designs.

    I have completed some frequency generation detail but will not go into that at this point.
    Do not waste your time with Computer 'models' and solid state means to option the Resonator but deal in what Lester had to work with and get your brain to work outside of what you think you know as modern day technology is NOT the answer.
    You may like to get involved with what you think you know best but that will not help you.
    A complete mind-set change is required.
    This from experience.

    It would be greatly appreciated if you would read the Pages that have come before in this Forum before you Post, as I had done, else you will probably be wasting our time.
    Thankyou.

    Smokey
    Last edited by David G Dawson; 01-13-2014, 01:57 AM. Reason: Picture Size

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  • David G Dawson
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    Hendershot Generator

    Basket weave Coil:
    Diameter I posted earlier was incorrect and have just corrected, my apologies.
    Should be 5 15/16", 150.8125 mm.

    Smokey

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  • GSM
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    Originally posted by Beamgate View Post
    I would recon that it could not work as Hendershot demonstrated with those non-original values of electrolytic capacitors, also without any foil type core-capacitor tuning arrangements.
    I don't see a proper horseshoe magnet being provided either - large good ones are not cheap, and very difficult to find these days.

    Clicking the close page button was the only fast-track activity occuring here !

    Cheers ............... Graham.

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  • Beamgate
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    Why not fast-track this?

    See: Hendershot Generator Complete "do It Yourself" Kit Includes 2 5 Hour Video | eBay

    Wonder if it works?

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  • David G Dawson
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    Hendershot Generator/Aetheric Antenna/Master Hole Plan

    Aetheric Antenna:
    This is scaled from the actual dimensions of the two plate aluminium foils used to build the Home-made capacitor.
    Graham, you may not like the name but this extends back into those elements below Hydrogen which we don't yet know too much about.
    At Tidbinbilla I spent many hours waving the 64 metre Antenna around the skies looking for Water Masers using a 24 Ghz Maser and our CSIRO 'scientists' in attendance and associated with the above.
    I was just told recently that NASA has donated the Tidbindilla multi-antenna site (5) to the CSIRO but will still probably track the deep space probes like the Pioneers and Voyagers which was my main position there.



    What you see here are two dipoles just like an antenna but spiralled.
    Reason for posting about an EH antenna - two fields being generated:

    Robert hart -- EH Antenna

    Coaxial inductor and dipole EH antenna

    Master Hole Plan:

    This is the PDF master hole plan for the Basketweave coils - you need to adjust this using any suitable program so that the centre of the holes measures exactly 5 15/16" - 150.8125 mm diameter:



    Back later with the wire sizes as this is what is probably keeping some of you from progressing.
    Remember, I am only passing on information which has been developed by our Group and to the best of our knowledge is a close as possible replication and my effort so far, is the only one at this stage of development.

    Smokey
    Last edited by David G Dawson; 01-12-2014, 11:21 PM. Reason: incorrect diameter

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  • GSM
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    Originally posted by David G Dawson View Post
    Hello Graham, At Page 10 of your Forum ......
    Disappointed with the bought Horse-shoe as I expected them to be conventional Iron magnets and not what I bought with mini Neos stuffed into the face.
    Was this just neodymiums at the polefaces without an iron/steel body ?
    If yes, then of course they were not horseshoe magnets !

    Originally posted by David G Dawson View Post
    - have been collecting Magnets for years and have quite a display of all Ferrite sorts but no Alnico or Samarium Cobalt.
    and of course different types of magnets also have different magnetic characteristics/impedances; especially different time related reactances !

    Originally posted by David G Dawson View Post
    This is a picture of the trace achieved which looks balanced as that is what is required but the pulse may need to be more a square plus and minus and not a spike as this relates.
    I would disagree because a squared pulse requires greater energy input.
    An impulse leaves the entirely separate cores/circuits to flip in their own dynamically related time periods too; also without the lower impedance interactions/loadings fundamentally related with square wave drive.

    Originally posted by David G Dawson View Post
    some of the schematics are not balanced and my reasoning says they should be.
    David, this has been in my thoughts too - as if the core circuits should be common rail balanced about the buzzer/load lines.

    Originally posted by David G Dawson View Post
    What this is telling me, is that I don't need the 1:5 transformers as I have already achieved the required voltage just a matter now of correcting the pulse into an AC square wave at +/- DC potentials.
    Check out say 2x 110V to 2x 18>20V AC, and non toroidal E-I type transformers, then take (or cut) the I off the E to insert thin paper in order to prevent Hendershot pulses inducing core saturation.

    Note - this is not square wave related.
    The centre magnetic buzzer might energise core fields, but these must be free to run in their own (foil-C tunable) time frames.
    Those transformer outputs are in series with one capacitor each and their outputs would be at a lower impedance. In combination with the top field core windings these series connected transformer-capacitors will generate a rolling (phased) magnetic field wave longitudinally through the sleeve - this to initiate a core field reversal plus loosely resonatable reset. (The winding fields are not tightly coupled with the core fields.)

    It is only the likes of mankind who comes along with those continuous squarewaves, they not being natural core, coil and magnetic field behaviours.

    Actually I have just ninety degree wondered as I check read this post -
    could not the value of the transformer secondary connected series C give us an idea of the frequency of impulse field rotation induced within the Hendershot cores ?

    Originally posted by David G Dawson View Post
    Don't think magnets below the coils is a hidden option here as in many of the pics the working device is sitting flat.
    I know of only two pictures where Lester's device is running. Do you have any others ?
    One is on a cloth covered tabletop lighting a lamp; I could so easily conceal ring magnets beneath a tablecloth on an apparently solid table.
    The other one is on a raised and sloping frame supplying a radio; I could so easily conceal ring magnets in that frame.

    If I have read correctly, then Aho took away a generator he himself saw being demonstrated by Hendershot, and yet he himself could not make it run for himself
    - because
    - he was not given the complete generator ???
    As an aside, if there had been something like a radioactive substance in the core wax then the generator would have run anywhwere; but it didn't for Aho.

    Originally posted by David G Dawson View Post
    Notice locally that all of the Foundry type engineer shops are closing down as our generation retires and nobody there willing to take over - just another lost art.
    Smokey
    Far too many "lost" arts David .......... Cheers .......... Graham.

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  • David G Dawson
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    Testing pic size.









    Ok, the top is 320x240 small
    640 x 480 medium
    800 x 600
    1024x 768 large

    Take your pick.
    I must have caught them in the middle of the update as I am unable to change the previous Post pic sizes where they were too large.

    Smokey
    Last edited by David G Dawson; 01-11-2014, 10:12 AM. Reason: pic size Image Shack update

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  • David G Dawson
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    Hendershot Generator - Resonator

    Hello Graham,
    At Page 10 of your Forum (going backwards to 1) and also doing the Russian Forum and pulling out the meat of their articles and will Post later.

    Will do a build in detail with the facts to date of my second build which should assist others as I have already, in some instances, proved Lester's methodology as being correct.
    Later on this as I need to compile the detail in a correct manner and this will include the type of wire used, size and length and Inductamce.
    This is not saying that what I have is 100% correct but better than anything we have so far.

    Note that this is my second build, the first was the Russian scam video job which got me interested and then woke up to reality but I did have the basics in place and then rewound my basketweaves and carried on from there.
    Lots of information that is not applicable which needs to be weeded out.
    Have an excellent master for the basketweaves in PDF but how do I pass that on here?

    Yes, the thin horseshoe would be a requirement and also thought of the flat and thin magnet face would be a pre-requisite to the Wesley Motor.
    Round Magnets are now available with a side polarity vice ends (diametrically magnetised) and probably now for rectangles - NO, just checked, only the round or rod styles.
    Disappointed with the bought Horse-shoe as I expected them to be conventional Iron magnets and not what I bought with mini Neos stuffed into the face.
    Have mini Compasses on the way now.
    Probably make our own cut out of flat iron and add the magnets to the ends.
    Have some soft iron here which is thick enough for hand cutters and may make several up and laminate together but leave a 'U' at the front to contain the magnets - thinking aloud - I have asymmetric Neo small rounds here - have been collecting Magnets for years and have quite a display of all Ferrite sorts but no Alnico or Samarium Cobalt.

    The best method of pulsing into the coils externally is the one in the picture of the entire setup with the coil set in the bottom left.
    The bell ringer coils with other coils placed over the bodies and this gave good +/- input into the device at about 26 volts maximum but was unable to induce oscillation within the basketweaves.

    This is a picture of the trace achieved which looks balanced as that is what is required but the pulse may need to be more a square plus and minus and not a spike as this relates.



    This is when I looked at the schematic and questioned what I had as it seemed to be not conducive to oscillation and am still at that point and some of the schematics are not balanced and my reasoning says they should be.
    Have done the Skilling and Aho and deciding now on the next one and change-over is easy to do on my setup.

    This is the option to the Hendershot Resonator and suggested as the best method but you will notice that what I have here is a transformer which is working very nicely too and is showing 225 volts AC.
    What this is telling mie, is that I don't need the 1:5 transformers as I have already achieved the required voltage just a matter now of correctibg the pulse into an AC square wave at +/- DC potentials.



    The transformers I see as being a problem on the Forums and what these are used for in early B&W TVs are for Horizontal and Vertical oscillator drivers - the voltage used here is about 500~600 volts - simple Math 110 x5 = 550 volts and what Lester was using.
    The VA rating is about 15 VA and not in the 100s as I saw somewhere.
    I started out with 80VA toroids but what you see in my setup are laminated 30VAs and about to put in some 15VAs and these match the physical size of Lesters.
    For 240 volts my ratio needs to be 10:1, so a 240:24 is what I need and not easy to obtain and what I have are only 240/15 but will do until we can get an oscillation going.

    Don't think magnets below the coils is a hidden option here as in many of the pics the working device is sitting flat.

    Looking for the flat thin horse-shoe Magnets and wondering if any of the vintage Magnetos were of a stacked/laminated nature and will be watching out for those on Ebay.
    Notice locally that all of the Foundry type engineer shops are closing down as our generation retires and nobody there willing to take over - just another lost art.

    Wesley is the priority at this time to get the 'Neutral Zone' working as this would be the very first energy generator that did not require an outside energy source like Moray, Hendershot and Hubbard etc.
    I have a 'David Wells Machine' running here which is said to be a 'perpetual motor' and all that is required is to swap the two batteries as one discharging, charges the other whilst turning a magnet motor producing an LMD event (rainmaking) but doesn't quite meet that spec as it will eventually stop for lack of charge.
    Today is day 5 and runs 24/7.

    Will be messing around trying to get the correct picture size so you may see pics from me that come and go.
    Thanks.

    Smokey

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