That was unexpected.... (Magnacoaster)

[darkwizard]

The guy is saying on his web-site that his invention is creating a magnetic field, but he forces the magnetic field to drift apart from the coil.

I can't figure how he can do this?

[darkwizard]

I figured through experiments that a magnet is a guide for the magnetic fields, if one puts a strong magnet it can attract or repel the magnetic field from the coil!

[lokke]

The guy is saying on his web-site that his invention is creating a magnetic field, but he forces the magnetic field to drift apart from the coil.

I can't figure how he can do this?

in some way, perhaps, he uses Joseph Flynn's Parallel Path technology

[lokke]

in some way, perhaps, he uses Joseph Flynn's Parallel Path technology

sorry. you have already been there

[amigo]

Hi Rick,

Maybe I should've said "Technically I could...",

Practically though, my time is so limited that I don't know if this would be the best way to spend it. I have many other things I'm involved with that opening the door to yet another "obligation" is not what I'm looking forward to.

I know it sounds like an excuse but I'm just being honest.

Thanks for understanding.

[boguslaw]

Permanent magnet ha! Was my crazy theory a correct one ? Could permanent magnet be kind of lens for magnetic field , concentrated Earth magnetic field in small area ?

[vrand]

That's a pretty depressing outlook.
I will have to disagree with your general assessment that the Magnacoaster technology is a fraud. I'm not saying that what this guy has built works or not, because I don't know.
However, I think controlling magnetic current holds great promise for power generation. I see no theoretical reason why it won't work.
Here is a simple concept for generating power with this technology. You have to admit that the control of 4 magnets with one coil has a certain appeal to us FE types.



The control coil could be wound bifiler with one winding used as a generator coil. The pulses would have to be both positive and negative to efficiently orient the domains within the core. Magnetic current would alternately flow through the casement and the control core, producing electrical power in the generator coils. The control coil core becomes a magnet that alternately changes polarity.
I have a similar design that I am currently working on. Results should be forthcoming, which I will, good or bad, happily share with this group.



Ted

P.S. Replace the control coil with a rotor containing alternately polarized magnets, and you have a mechanical generator. The alternating magnets would do just the same thing as the coil is doing, although probably not as efficiently.

Interesting design

Have you tested this design?

Magnacoaster mentions 150 turns of 0.010 wire, in his post over at "overunity.com".

new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load

-Mike R.

[Ted Ewert]

Interesting design

Have you tested this design?

Magnacoaster mentions 150 turns of 0.010 wire, in his post over at "overunity.com".

new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load

-Mike R.

Yup... didn't work. Permanent magnets will not induce current in a coil, even though the flux is switched through the iron core.
I tried many physical variations too, as well as varied pules widths, voltages, loads etc. No matter what I did (and I know I was switching plenty of magnetic current), no power was induced in the load coil. I could see the switching pulse come through clean as a whistle, but current switched from a PM will not make power in an iron core, I don't care what Faraday says. For a PM to make power in an iron core it has to be moving (as far as I can tell).
What I'm working on now is different core material. In fact, I just poured a new core last night but haven't had a chance to wind it yet. I have too many projects and not enough time to goof around with all of them! I'll let the forum know if I have a Eureka moment (don't hold your breath).

Cheers,

Ted

[darkwizard]

Perhaps it works

What is the secret?

[vrand]

Yup... didn't work. Permanent magnets will not induce current in a coil, even though the flux is switched through the iron core.
I tried many physical variations too, as well as varied pules widths, voltages, loads etc. No matter what I did (and I know I was switching plenty of magnetic current), no power was induced in the load coil. I could see the switching pulse come through clean as a whistle, but current switched from a PM will not make power in an iron core, I don't care what Faraday says. For a PM to make power in an iron core it has to be moving (as far as I can tell).
What I'm working on now is different core material. In fact, I just poured a new core last night but haven't had a chance to wind it yet. I have too many projects and not enough time to goof around with all of them! I'll let the forum know if I have a Eureka moment (don't hold your breath).

Cheers,

Ted

Is Magnacoaster using same poles, say N to N, facing each other to cause the current to flow in the coils when pulsed? Will this cause demagnetizing, over say several months, of constant pulsing N to N fields to the magnets?

Yea, coil core materials is an "art form" where everyone has their own proprietary mixes. Micrometals, here in Anaheim Calif. has some really good core materials.

The company that made the Minute Man missle transformer cores was bought by Honeywell, then they sold it and is no longer in business. Those cores were known to generate "overunity" energy in operation and they had to detune the cores so as not to generate the extra energy.

-Mike R.

[rickoff]

Reply to amigo:

Hi Rick,

Maybe I should've said "Technically I could...",

Practically though, my time is so limited that I don't know if this would be the best way to spend it. I have many other things I'm involved with that opening the door to yet another "obligation" is not what I'm looking forward to.

I know it sounds like an excuse but I'm just being honest.

Thanks for understanding.

Hi Amigo,

I can understand that predicament quite well. So far, my own efforts to find independent verification of the Magnacoaster technology have proved fruitless. That in itself does not tell us that Richard Willis is a scam artist, but the fact that he has not offered up any convincing test results with independently verifiable data certainly does leave us to wonder what this is all about. Further, the Magnacoaster pdf document (link posted earlier in this thread) certainly represents a somewhat greedy looking, fortune-hunting plan of business that seems to have very little to do with promoting energy independence for the masses. After all, if the technology is real then why not sell the manufacturing license rights for big bucks, get this into rapid production worldwide, and retire to an island paradise with $20 million? Why even worry about the logistics of generating $5 million start-up capital, and dream of generating billions in revenue 5 to 10 years down the road? Isn't a quick, worry-free $20 million enough for anyone?

Richard Willis made some big claims when he appeared on the Dragons Den TV show to make his presentation. Among those were:

• "18 watts input and 50kw output" from his device
• tests at Waterloo University showing "2600% over unity."
• "a patent pending"

It should be noted that Richard did not offer proof of any of these claims during the show. He was rejected by all the Dragons except Brett Wilson, who said that he would meet Richard's request for one million dollars if Richard could prove his claims to be true. It would appear, from reading the Dragons Den forums, that the deal with Brett Wilson has fallen through, so it looks like Richard failed to provide Brett with adequate verification, and probably did not allow either Brett's company, or independent researchers, to conduct hands-on tests.

I'm beginning to run out of patience in my own attempts to verify either the truth or fallacy of Richard's claims, so have made a last-ditch effort. I decided to write to Richard Willis yesterday to ask him to supply the name and contact information of a person at Waterloo University who can verify his claims concerning input, output, and test results. I would expect that if such a test was in fact done, that there would be records available showing the test conditions, the duration, and the results data, and I think that is what we would all like to see. I have also asked Richard to provide information concerning his patent application (Canadian, US, or International, plus name this was filed under), and to provide a reference link to where this may be found. If Willis is acting in good faith then he will have no problem with divulging the information that I have asked for. If the information is forthcoming and honest, then I guess we will have some more researching to do, and if not then at least we will know we are at a dead end regarding the Magnacoaster technology.

Best regards to all,

Rick

[Ted Ewert]

Is Magnacoaster using same poles, say N to N, facing each other to cause the current to flow in the coils when pulsed? Will this cause demagnetizing, over say several months, of constant pulsing N to N fields to the magnets?

Yea, coil core materials is an "art form" where everyone has their own proprietary mixes. Micrometals, here in Anaheim Calif. has some really good core materials.

The company that made the Minute Man missle transformer cores was bought by Honeywell, then they sold it and is no longer in business. Those cores were known to generate "overunity" energy in operation and they had to detune the cores so as not to generate the extra energy.

-Mike R.

Hi Mike,
I don't know how Magnacoaster uses his magnets. I know he was switching flux to power a motor, and I assume he went on to a MEG type mechanism after that, but that's only a guess.
I wish I understood better just what mechanism causes magnetic current to become electric current. I have yet to find a really good explanation detailing exactly what happens during induction. I have my own ideas, but they're incomplete and unproven.
My main question is: Why is electrical current induced in a copper wire that is moving through a magnetic field. What happens in the wire when it is "cutting through the lines of force"? What is it about physical motion that causes this interaction?
All I know is that I still have a lot to learn.

Cheers,

Ted

[Joit]

My main question is: Why is electrical current induced in a copper wire that is moving through a magnetic field. What happens in the wire when it is "cutting through the lines of force"? What is it about physical motion that causes this interaction?
All I know is that I still have a lot to learn.

Cheers,

Ted

Well, my Explanation is, and most common physical Theory, you have different Material, where the 'Particles are more or less stronger bound to her Core. When a Flux comes close, they start to unstick from the Core/Material and moving.
its like a flexible Tube with Water, when you press into on direction, it will Spit Water out.

But since i read a lot about Ed Leedskalnin, i cant say, if this are 'Electrons' what are moving there, or just magnetic Fields, what works in attraction/distraction, or a 'Charge' bound to Particles.
At last, it is something, what is moving because of the Flux.

There are still other Methods of extracting Current, ie, the Wimhurst machine,
where there the negative and positive Charge get collectet opposite from the turning Disc at the backside of Plates.
Therefor it dont need a lead or an Inductor to get Current, but it still can be, that it only works the same way,
that the Particles are only excited at the backside from other Stuff.

At last, i think, the best is, 'something is moving' inside the Wire cause of the Fluxfield

And right now, i think, the best you can do is, to make it for it easy as possible for it, with ie golden Ratio designs or the Press/pull Principle,
what V. Schauberger suggest.

[darkwizard]

Perhaps i was right when i say that one can pickup the power from the magnets , gotoluc appeared to be on the same way, charles flynn of parallel path tech is the same. I was f@cking right.

Seems that Richard Willis used Permalloy in order to do the core of the coil in his pulse motor, it says the motor is only for the timing, the radiant is amplified by the magnets

Seems that it produces energy from the ferromagnetic domains.

[darkwizard]

Perhaps is a liar, I don't know