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  • #16
    Later

    Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
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    Now, how do you EXPLAIN EACH POLARIZATIONS OPPOSITE SPIN CLEARLY SHOWN?
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    Hi Ufo,

    Sorry I interrupted your presentation with a bit of convention and logic. I'll shut up and let you continue after I address your last question.

    I do not see spin on the CRT. Just the results of what can be fully explained by Lorentz Force Equation. That is the orthogonal relationship between the vectors of velocity (of the charge), magnetic field and force (on that charge).

    Respectfully and regards,

    bi

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    • #17
      Originally posted by bistander View Post
      Hi Ufo,

      There is no "dielectric field plane" or "equatorial plane". But that's your story, so carry on.

      Regards,

      bi
      Right and so on -according to YOUR story- there is no Bloch or Neél Walls right at the exact center between two MAIN Domains or Magnetic Poles...Felix Bloch was just full of it...

      In YOUR "Story" there is ONLY needed to "sprinkle some 'ol dusty iron filings" like in the Old Western Cowboy's "Technologies"...to see the REAL Magnetic Fields...all the rest is pure BS...right?

      Keep going your way...carry on...but please do not interrupt me if you already know all my work...and so I know your thoughts.


      Ufopolitics
      Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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      • #18
        Originally posted by bistander View Post
        Hi Ufo,

        Sorry I interrupted your presentation with a bit of convention and logic.
        That ain't logic, that ain't convention, that is purely imposing your beliefs over mine.



        Originally posted by bistander View Post
        I'll shut up and let you continue after I address your last question.

        I do not see spin on the CRT. Just the results of what can be fully explained by Lorentz Force Equation. That is the orthogonal relationship between the vectors of velocity (of the charge), magnetic field and force (on that charge).

        Respectfully and regards,

        bi
        You do not see a Spin here?...what is a CENTER steady point while two exterior forces are applied to this line following exactly same direction plus using identical radius distances from that center point?

        But, please don't shut up...by all means, be my guest of honor here!!

        I will completely stop posting and allow you to step in and start explaining all your bold out and underlined statements above about Lorentz Forces...

        I really wanna enjoy you doing it here...

        But I want you to do it with YOUR OWN GRAPHICS, YOUR OWN DIAGRAMS, YOUR OWN PICTURES AND YOUR OWN TESTINGS, AND WHATEVER OTHER VISUALS MEANS YOU WANT TO USE...

        MEANING, DO IT just like I DO IT...With my own graphics and my own images and my own experiments.

        So, nope, do not start downloading unrelated stuff from all over the net (like you normally do) then posting it here, because then I will ask Aaron for you to erase all your comments and then leave this (my) Thread...got it?

        SO, PLEASE BE SPECIFIC ABOUT APPLYING LORENTZ ON THIS EXACT SCENARIO
        : CRT HORIZONTAL & FRONTAL SCANLINE VERSUS THE TWO MAGNETIC POLARITIES...BEHAVIOR.

        I wanna see your OWN 3D Volume Geometric Math here based on Lorentz Forces.

        Have in mind that the "Charged Particle q" is negative here...and it is accelerated by Electron Beam Gun, plus rastered at around 15 Khz Field Reversals to produce that nice straight line on the fluorescent phosphoric material of screen.



        Enjoy and am out of here...the room, microphones, lights and cameras are all yours!!


        Ufopolitics
        Last edited by Ufopolitics; 02-22-2018, 10:32 PM.
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        • #19
          No thanks

          Hi Ufo,

          Thanks for the invite, but I decline. There are much better teachers and text on Lorentz than myself. I said I was done with the interruption in my previous post, and I am.

          Folks should appreciate opposing points of view, don't you think?

          I'm back to the sidelines,

          bi

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          • #20
            Originally posted by bistander View Post
            Hi Ufo,

            Thanks for the invite, but I decline. There are much better teachers and text on Lorentz than myself. I said I was done with the interruption in my previous post, and I am.
            Hey Bistander,

            Well, what can I say...your decline of my humble offer...in order for you to step in and clarify what you were so sure concluding with such simplicity it sounded like a "piece of cake"...only leave me room for disappointment and doubts as to the veracity of your conclusions and capability to demonstrate it.

            Originally posted by bistander View Post
            Folks should appreciate opposing points of view, don't you think?

            I'm back to the sidelines,

            bi
            But of course!!..

            EXCEPT, the only problem being, Bistander...that you have stepped into my Thread, knowing that I BACK UP in a 100% Ken Wheeler's Theories and Claims FOR A HECK OF A LONG TIME...and that I have made so many EXPENSIVE YT videos, so many comments on this Forum, on so many Threads about the SAME EXACT CLAIMS...in order to demonstrate them, PLUS BACKUP ALL THESE THEORIES...WORK which has been going on for years by now...and still is right here.

            But then you've decided to step in just to tell me, at this stage in time...about your position -WHICH I KNOW FOR SUCH LONG TIME- related to Dielectric Field Planes or Equatorial Planes or Bloch Walls...like it is all about a "NEW DISCUSSION"...AND IT AIN'T!!!

            We all know you by now, Bistander, and there is absolutely no need, every time anyone mentions the word "Dielectric Field" that you have to jump like some sort of high compressed then all the sudden released spring...or a Jumping Jack Flash.

            What I still can not "catch up" (understand) about your behavior -except for the purpose of disruption- is why do you still need to step in -every time- to deny any theories that rise around you, just because you have the belief that your still CLASSIC THEORIES are the right ones?...because YOU THINK, because YOU BELIEVE You HOLD THE TRUTH in your hands...and so NO ONE ELSE CAN?!

            Is that why Bistander?

            IF SO...Then PLEASE, GO AND REVIVE THE ORIGINAL OLD THREAD BY KEN WHEELER, WHERE THOSE THEORIES WERE PRESENTED ORIGINALLY HERE FOR THE FIRST TIME...:

            UNCOVERING THE MISSING SECRETS OF MAGNETISM

            Then seat down and wait to see if Ken comes by to respond or SOMEONE ELSE AROUND HERE DOES YOU, THE FAVOR TO ANSWER...

            Do NOT count on me...am too busy.


            Regards


            Ufopolitics
            Last edited by Ufopolitics; 02-23-2018, 01:42 AM.
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            • #21
              Motors and generators have been converting energy and doing work for humankind for nearly two centuries. These machines must number in the billions. They all have been designed and operate based on these classic principles which I have learned and attempt to teach. How many joules of work have been done by a machine designed using Mr. Wheeler's theories? Not one.

              I can't compete with your graphic skills or Ken's vocabulary. I just have millions of engineers and scientists on my side and an enlightened and electrified society to prove it.

              You and Ken continue to promote fantasy magnetism. Show us something useful you can do with it.

              Regards,

              bi

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              • #22
                200 ears of Electromagnetic Achievements??!!...give ME A BRAKE!!!

                Originally posted by bistander View Post
                Motors and generators have been converting energy and doing work for humankind for nearly two centuries. These machines must number in the billions. They all have been designed and operate based on these classic principles which I have learned and attempt to teach.
                What kind of work have ELECTRIC MOTORS being doing for the past 200 years??!!

                -Apart from propelling fans, exhausting and heat sinking HEAT?
                -Apart from powering SOME small tools, lifting windows in vehicles and running paper and rolling color cartridges in jet printers?
                - Apart from running dirty laundry on Electrical Washers and Dryers...or Hairdriers?
                - Plus all the minor and LIGHT INDUSTRY NEEDS?

                NOW, IN ALL THOSE 200 YEARS, TELL ME...WHEN HAVE YOU EVER SEEN AN ELECTRIC MOTOR POWERING:

                1- OR LIFTING UP AND FLYING A Heavy Aircraft like a JUMBO 747 POWERED by ELECTROMAGNETIC TURBINES?

                2- PROPELLING A CRUISE-LINER SHIP THROUGH OUR OCEANS?

                3- And so, RUNNING A GREYHOUND BUS FULL OF PASSENGERS OR AN EIGHTEEN WHEELER PETER-BUILT LOAD TRUCK?

                4- OR CONSTRUCTION HEAVY EQUIPMENT, LIKE BACKHOES, CATERPILLARS, ROLLERS, CRANES, ETC,ETC??

                LET ME ANSWER FOR YOU...


                NEVER, EVER IN 200 YEARS!!

                ONLY IN KID'S TOYS Bistander...


                ALL THIS "HERCULEAN WORK" HAS BEEN DONE ALL THESE TWO HUNDRED YEARS BY THE STINKING, FARTING AND ETERNAL LEAKING GAS AND DIESEL MACHINES!!!

                NOW LET'S TALK ABOUT GENERATORS?...REALLY?


                I would just ask you a simple question...

                HAVE YOU EVER SEEN AN ELECTRIC GENERATOR RUN BY AN ELECTRIC MOTOR IN ANY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX OR EVEN IN A SMALL HOUSE?

                NEVER LAND!!

                SO WHAT ARE YOU ALL PROUD OFF ABOUT ALL THIS "ACHIEVEMENTS BY ELECTRIC MOTORS AND GENERATORS IN ALL THESE 200 YEARS??


                TO BE CONTINUED...
                Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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                • #23
                  Part ii

                  Originally posted by bistander View Post
                  How many joules of work have been done by a machine designed using Mr. Wheeler's theories? Not one.
                  Faraday put forward a Theory only proven by small models...and so MANY OPPOSED to those explanations, basically the "Mathematicians" of his times...until James Clerk Maxwell stepped in...

                  And by having people like you, that constantly interfere, INTERRUPTS, anytime someone tries to explain any Theory other than the DOGMATIC CLASSIC ONE that YOU DEFEND...Then it would be much harder to ever come up with a Machine based on those Theories which YOU and many OTHERS HERE try TO BLOCK ALL THE TIME!!!

                  Originally posted by bistander View Post
                  I can't compete with your graphic skills

                  But CAN YOU COMPETE with my BUILDING SKILLS?
                  ...I am pretty sure you COULD!!...HOWEVER, I HAVE BEVER SEEN YOU BUILD NADA, WHETHER TO PROVE WRONG OR RIGHT ANY CLAIMS DONE ON THIS FORUM!!

                  ALL YOU DO HERE, is "step in" and then blablablabla and then MORE BLABLABLABLABLA...then bring stuff from all over the net which REINFORCES your 200 YEARS obsolete and DOGMATIC Theories.


                  Originally posted by bistander View Post
                  I just have millions of engineers and scientists on my side and an enlightened and electrified society to prove it.
                  You ONLY HAVE MILLIONS of PEOPLE who were TAUGHT THE VERY WRONG AND DOGMATIC SCIENCES.

                  BY WHOM?...BY GE CORPORATIONS, BY THOMAS ALVA EDISON CRAPPY WORK, BY ROCKEFELLER UNIVERSITY, TEACHING DOGMAS THAT DO NOT ALLOW ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING WHICH COULD ENDANGER THEIR LIFESTYLES BASED ON OIL EXPLOITATION FOR 200 YEARS!!

                  Originally posted by bistander View Post
                  You and Ken continue to promote fantasy magnetism. Show us something useful you can do with it.

                  Regards,

                  bi

                  The day you come here and show me ELECTRIC MOTORS RUNNING "JUST" ALL THE FOUR (1,2,3,4) ITEMIZED BRANCHES OF THE INDUSTRY I HAVE CITED ABOVE...THEN I WILL STOP POSTING HERE.

                  The DAY A TESLA ELECTROMAGNETIC VEHICLE , OR ANY OTHER ONE could run from Florida to Alaska WITHOUT "RECHARGING" ...A NON STOP "FLIGHT"!!!...THEN I WILL STOP INSISTING ON NEWER THEORIES!!!

                  And I only HOPE, AND WISH THAT DAY COMES ANYTIME SOON...



                  God Bless You.



                  Ufopolitics
                  Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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                  • #24
                    Not a Spin??...really Bistander?

                    Originally posted by bistander View Post
                    Hi Ufo,

                    I do not see spin on the CRT.

                    Respectfully and regards,

                    bi
                    So, YOU do not "SEE" a CLEAR SPIN on the CRT whenever we approach a NORTH or a SOUTH?


                    Really?...SO, please allow me to explain it in FIRST GRADE SIMPLE GEOMETRY like to an ELEMENTARY SCHOOL KID:



                    So, above we have a BLUE LINE "L", which could be a simple LEVER.

                    Then we have a PIVOT POINT IN the RED CIRCLE, located EXACTLY at CENTER of BLUE LINE "L"

                    Now we will apply FORCES "F1"+"F2" to BLUE LINE "L" In such fashion that FORCES "F1" PLUS "F2" follow OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS as seen above...

                    Both FORCES "F1" PLUS "F2" are EQUIDISTANT TO CENTER PIVOT POINT IN RED CIRCLE, This DISTANCE IS NAMED "D1"...which establishes what is known as a RADIUS DISTANCE BETWEEN POINTS WHERE FORCES "F1" PLUS "F2" ARE ACTUATING.

                    AFTER FORCES "F1" PLUS "F2" ARE APPLIED OVER BLUE LINE "L", and according to simple PHYSICS LAWS...BLUE LINE "L" TAKES THE POSITION L'...

                    So, my dear Elementary School Student Bistander, from First Grade Class of Simple Geometry...we then can conclude that :

                    WE HAVE ROTATED OR SPUN (PAST TENSE OF SPIN) THE BLUE LINE "L", DUE TO THE FORCES "F1" PLUS "F2" FROM THE CENTER POINT IN THE RED CIRCLE.

                    Now in case you still have not seen any Spins or Rotations on above Image...I took the time to make same image but with a BLACK BACKGROUND, in order to stand out all the components in the explanation...Yes, I know I am a good teacher...



                    And by now...if you still do not see any spins in BOTH IMAGES above, My dear Student....then I will have no other recourse but to submit you to the Psychology Dept. of the ELEMENTARY SCHOOL to run some tests...JUST BECAUSE YOU MAY HAVE A SYNDROME OF ATTENTION...OR WHAT IS CALLED ADHD:

                    Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) is a mental disorder of the neurodevelopmental type. It is characterized by problems paying attention, excessive activity, or difficulty controlling behavior which is not appropriate for a person's age.

                    Even though I hope to see you soon in my next class...


                    Be a good kid and stay out of trouble.


                    God Bless You


                    Ufopolitics
                    Last edited by Ufopolitics; 02-23-2018, 02:18 PM.
                    Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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                    • #25
                      Electric propulsion

                      Hi Ufo,

                      Many of the vehicles in groups 2, 3 & 4 do use electric motor propulsion systems. And electric powered aircraft is rapid developing. I have seen where NASA has worked on an electric 747.

                      What about high speed rail. The fastest trains in the world are electric. And that power could easily be generated by hydro or renewable sources not using carbon emitting technology.

                      I am actually attempting to help you. Pointing out a flaw or discrepancy in your theories could be constructive criticism leading to deeper uderstanding. But taking a defensive posture is only human nature.

                      BTW, I've said before. Show me an over unity machine and I'll replicate it. I've built and tested many energy machines which I knew would work. I avoid building stuff I know won't work.

                      Regards,

                      bi

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by bistander View Post
                        Hi Ufo,

                        Many of the vehicles in groups 2, 3 & 4 do use electric motor propulsion systems. And electric powered aircraft is rapid developing. I have seen where NASA has worked on an electric 747.
                        Yeah, sure...SO MANY BEAUTIFUL "PROTOTYPES" ...that would never make it to the Market...same ol story...for another 200 years more.

                        NASA?...PLEASE DON'T BRING NASA HERE!!!....SIMPLY: SPACE X A "NEW IN TOWN" PRIVATELY OWNED CORPORATION by ELON MUSK, a guy that just "walked in" have achieved what NASA with all the MONEY IN THE WORLD PLUS ALL THE TIME THEY HAVE BEEN "ESTABLISHED"...BIG MONEY they have stolen from Government Funds PLUS ALL CONTRIBUTORS...HAVE NEVER BEING ABLE TO LAND BACK THE FIRST STAGE PROPULSION ENGINES WITH THEIR HUGE TANKS AND SOOO SYNCHRONIZED LIKE SPACE X DID!!!

                        [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0-pfzKbh2k[/VIDEO]

                        THEN LANDS MAIN ROCKET IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SEA...

                        [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEr9cPpuAx8[/VIDEO]

                        ALL NASA HAS DONE IS BLOW THEM OUT IN THE SKY BEFORE LEAVING EARTH ATMOSPHERE

                        NASA HAS DEVELOPED -OVER SO MANY YEARS- A "BEST" COST OF AROUND 10,000 USD per POUND to be "LIFTED" THEN SENT to SPACE...WHILE, SPACE X IS DOING IT FOR 1,000 USD/POUND...!!

                        Originally posted by bistander View Post
                        What about high speed rail. The fastest trains in the world are electric. And that power could easily be generated by hydro or renewable sources not using carbon emitting technology.
                        High Speed Rails (TRAINS) are BS to bring it into this conversation...and you know exactly why.

                        High Speed Rails Vehicles require SUPER MEGA CONSTRUCTIONS, in order to Provide POWER ON THE TRACKS THROUGH ALL DESTINATIONS...LAUGHABLE PROJECTS, REALLY!!

                        Oh, but surely they could run over and over without any "recharge" right?
                        B.S...They feed off the track lines...or just like the San Francisco Old Cable Trolleybuses built near the Western Cowboys Stories...?

                        Counting that as an "ACHIEVEMENT"?...PLEASE, DO NOT INSULT MY INTELLIGENCE BISTANDER!!

                        All that was is Pathetic and Ridiculous!!

                        Originally posted by bistander View Post
                        I am actually attempting to help you. Pointing out a flaw or discrepancy in your theories could be constructive criticism leading to deeper uderstanding. But taking a defensive posture is only human nature.
                        Thanks but nope thanks!

                        I do not need your "kind" of help Bistander, where you completely refuse to see a ROTATION or a SPIN, where CLEARLY THERE IS ONE.

                        Originally posted by bistander View Post
                        BTW, I've said before. Show me an over unity machine and I'll replicate it. I've built and tested many energy machines which I knew would work. I avoid building stuff I know won't work.

                        Regards,

                        bi
                        That's a very comfortable position you have MAN!!!

                        Wait till someone BRAKES HIS BACK, WASTES HIS MONEY, TESTING, BUILDING, TESTING AGAIN, HAVING FRUSTRATIONS BACK AND FORTH...SO, THEN VERY EASILY, YOU, MR BISTANDER, JUST "STEPS IN" AND "REPLICATE IT SUCCESSFULLY"....

                        REALLY?

                        NOPE!!...IF YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO WRITE A DENIAL UPON ANY STATED CLAIM, THEN YOU MUST BUILD IT TO PROVE IT EITHER RIGHT OR WRONG, BESIDES HELPING THE OTHER MEMBER TO ACHIEVE IT RIGHT!!!....

                        THAT IS WHAT IS NEEDED HERE!!!


                        UNLESS YOU ARE A PAID SHILL, TO JUST CONSTANTLY INTERFERE WITH ANY NEW THEORIES AND DESTROY THEM FOR A FEE.

                        And I honestly believe-and hoping- you are NOT one of those DISGUSTING HUMAN BEINGS.


                        Regards


                        Ufopolitics
                        Last edited by Ufopolitics; 02-23-2018, 03:04 PM.
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                        • #27
                          Do not see it yet?

                          Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
                          So, YOU do not "SEE" a CLEAR SPIN on the CRT whenever we approach a NORTH or a SOUTH?

                          Really?...SO, please allow me to explain it in FIRST GRADE SIMPLE GEOMETRY like to an ELEMENTARY SCHOOL KID:



                          So, above we have a BLUE LINE "L", which could be a simple LEVER.

                          Then we have a PIVOT POINT IN the RED CIRCLE, located EXACTLY at CENTER of BLUE LINE "L"

                          Now we will apply FORCES "F1"+"F2" to BLUE LINE "L" In such fashion that FORCES "F1" PLUS "F2" follow OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS as seen above...

                          Both FORCES "F1" PLUS "F2" are EQUIDISTANT TO CENTER PIVOT POINT IN RED CIRCLE, This DISTANCE IS NAMED "D1"...which establishes what is known as a RADIUS DISTANCE BETWEEN POINTS WHERE FORCES "F1" PLUS "F2" ARE ACTUATING.

                          AFTER FORCES "F1" PLUS "F2" ARE APPLIED OVER BLUE LINE "L", and according to simple PHYSICS LAWS...BLUE LINE "L" TAKES THE POSITION L'...

                          So, my dear Elementary School Student Bistander, from First Grade Class of Simple Geometry...we then can conclude that :

                          WE HAVE ROTATED OR SPUN (PAST TENSE OF SPIN) THE BLUE LINE "L", DUE TO THE FORCES "F1" PLUS "F2" FROM THE CENTER POINT IN THE RED CIRCLE.

                          Now in case you still have not seen any Spins or Rotations on above Image...I took the time to make same image but with a BLACK BACKGROUND, in order to stand out all the components in the explanation...Yes, I know I am a good teacher...



                          And by now...if you still do not see any spins in BOTH IMAGES above, My dear Student....then I will have no other recourse but to submit you to the Psychology Dept. of the ELEMENTARY SCHOOL to run some tests...JUST BECAUSE YOU MAY HAVE A SYNDROME OF ATTENTION...OR WHAT IS CALLED ADHD

                          Even though I hope to see you soon in my next class...


                          Be a good kid and stay out of trouble.


                          God Bless You


                          Ufopolitics
                          Still do not see a SPIN??!!

                          Let me know whenever you do...


                          Last edited by Ufopolitics; 02-23-2018, 03:05 PM.
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                          • #28
                            And now it's XXX turn to make a kick off.
                            But no OU in sight.

                            Have fun
                            Regards / Arne

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by seaad View Post
                              And now it's XXX turn to make a kick off.
                              But no OU in sight.

                              Have fun
                              Regards / Arne
                              No ANTS HERE PLEASE!!


                              HEEEEELP, bring the PEST CONTROL!!!


                              Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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                              • #30
                                Displacement

                                Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
                                ...

                                ...
                                I see displacement. Remember that the force is on the beam, not the scanline.

                                Got to go. See ya

                                bi

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