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  • #16
    Originally posted by Turion
    You should understand.
    I LUCKED into something with the 3BGS setup.

    But then I think about how important it is that some of this stuff get out there. And the necessity of that is way bigger than any one of us.

    yes, I agree, you are not alone, these others you talk about
    have great gifts and are given to help. Their answers are way over
    my head in most cases. It takes money to do anything but to
    me money is the cheapest thing you and I will ever have. If you
    can learn something, that's much better than just mounds of

    Keep up the good work. Oh yeah, one more thing before I go. You
    state that your system is a product of luck and how others gave
    to you to help your work on the project.

    This gift is called a "PROJECT MANAGER" the project manager is the
    grease in the wheels of progress, without him the ship sinks.


    • #17
      Regenerative acceleration capacitor test voltage measurement
      under a load.




      • #18
        7 years ago Thane started testing with 2 MOT
        (Microwave Oven Transformers) one coil being 100 turns
        of 14awg wire and the other he calls a high voltage coil.

        In later work he calls normal hand wound coils high voltage
        coils since the wire selected is a small gauge wire that is very
        long sometimes 1000's of feet long.

        I like these video's because this was one of his beginning
        video's and shows me how to get started with a few simple



        Last edited by BroMikey; 01-26-2016, 10:55 AM.


        • #19
          Originally posted by BroMikey View Post
          7 years ago Thane started testing with 2 MOT
          (Microwave Oven Transformers)
          In case you missed the thread, here is all you need to let go of not only 7 years but 100+ years of old news:


          PS: That is because I could not pass one minute on first clip, without noticing the high voltage coil is receded on the core, as compared to the low voltage core, Read that post and you'll understand. Or not.
          Last edited by barbosi; 01-26-2016, 10:59 PM.


          • #20
            Originally posted by barbosi View Post
            In case you missed the thread, here is all you need to let go of not only 7 years but 100+ years of old news:



            PS: That is because I could not pass one minute on first clip, without noticing the high voltage coil is receded on the core, as compared to the low voltage core, Read that post and you'll understand. Or not.
            Hello barbosi

            I am new at this and will consider your entry. I also found this
            old video. What do you make of this one? These are beginners
            tests and the basis for a new invention.

            BTW thanks for the CAPTOR system patent work.


            Last edited by BroMikey; 01-28-2016, 07:42 AM.


            • #21
              For a better look at the numbers for recycling power look here.
              Demo 1 & 2 are very clear for those who have a mind to see.




              • #22
                It is important to look at this performance test of a coil
                set. Coil set meaning a spool that is wound having one
                low impedance wind and one high impedance winding.

                The beginning of this test shows a phase shift that I
                say is associated reactive power factors. Almost 90
                degrees means you multiply by .2 but this applies to
                other calculations.

                After we look at these numbers long enough it will become
                clear what Thane is showing us about coils that assist
                rotor torque while reclaiming huge amounts of energy
                back to source.

                Last edited by BroMikey; 01-31-2016, 01:06 AM.


                • #23
                  Looking at the Performance video above and also the patent
                  we can see that one set of coils is placed further away from
                  the rotor as a depiction of a delayed lenz when in fact both
                  distance and coil length are a more complete duty list to
                  delay maxium armature reaction at TDC.

                  Look at the shape of the core material, what do you see?
                  I see and irregular shaped core that is probably made from
                  a Permalloy that has a low response rate but never the less
                  higher than iron.
                  And not one pole only but two poles.

                  Last edited by BroMikey; 01-28-2016, 12:16 PM.


                  • #24
                    Look up the TESLA patent US524426 there you will see
                    a plan to shift phase on 2 of the motor windings as a
                    suggestion. The patents are vague and mostly hypothetical
                    so we must go beyond there obvious statements.

                    Look at how this man uses a 10-12 year old idea based of
                    Thane Heins RegenX coils.

                    He says one thing I have been looking Hi and Low for he says
                    that the small DC motor current draw is the same or almost
                    the same without generator coils as with generator cores.

                    This has been a question that I have had for sometime.

                    Last edited by BroMikey; 01-29-2016, 12:55 AM.


                    • #25
                      For those of you who are not sure about the basic coil theory and
                      terms such as cemp or bemf and many other speculative
                      declarations look at these simple diagrams for a more practical
                      side that will allow you to start building right away.

                      Unless this teaching is followed to the letter the input current
                      will climb out of control, the input current will drop if done
                      as follows and the output coils will assist rotor torque while
                      collecting huge sums of power returned to the battery.

                      You will need to take notes on this video.
                      Critical minimum freq and low resistance, high impedance are
                      all important thoughts. Self induced capacitance.

                      Equal and Equal reaction. Delayed Lenz.

                      I recommend that each diagram have hand written notes.

                      Unless each step is followed you will come back thinking
                      that acceleration under load is a meaningless operation.
                      Don't be like all the rest. Build yours today.

                      This man is building his empire on this simple thought.

                      In his case patents are not put together to hide his work along
                      with supplemented video instruction. He is safe this way.

                      Safe from attack because he has given away his work for free.

                      If you didn't know Thane was in EE college that told him that
                      his experiments were wrong. It was his experiments that produced
                      the innovation, not the school books


                      Last edited by BroMikey; 01-31-2016, 02:07 AM.


                      • #26

                        It is important that people understand that motors are not
                        built in a random fashion whether conventional or otherwise.
                        I see ReGenX acceleration Under Load attempts all over the
                        web with half of them calling it a hoax.

                        Yet not many are addressing the math in their replications.
                        It would appear these experimenters drum up some part on hand
                        nail it up and give it a shot without understanding how accurate
                        motor building must be.

                        Give these diagrams a look. The first one is a beautifully machined
                        rig with perfection in math by none other than Thane the EE.

                        The next diagram is my feeble try at suggesting math is required.
                        It's no wonder that few successful replications are found.

                        The distance between magnets and core thickness all play a roll.
                        The critical minimum freq will not be reached and optimized at

                        Some values will not be found without testing as long as you
                        are in the ball field.

                        Last edited by BroMikey; 01-31-2016, 10:33 AM.


                        • #27
                          Here is a basic formula for these coils and let's
                          not forget the magnets have a distance apart
                          from one another. Distance traveled or speed
                          is one measurement to be made on YOUR rotor
                          and then there is the core area facing the magnets
                          if to large or small will result in reduced effects.

                          Last edited by BroMikey; 01-31-2016, 11:44 AM.


                          • #28
                            Hello experimenters

                            I have a start for doing the math on the rotor. First we must
                            have something to start with and that is 1" magnets. Next we
                            need the number of poles. After that we must consider the
                            thickness of the magnet holders at 1/8th inch or 3mm. This
                            gives us a 6mm or 1/4" gap between magnets.

                            Next we can multiply 1.25" X 24 magnets = 30" dia. at the
                            center of the 1" magnets. This leaves 1/2" to the outside
                            of each magnet plus another 1/4" for an edge X 2 = an
                            additional 1.5" on to 9.6" = 11.1"

                            In other words 9.6" is the dia. at the center of the magnets

                            like this

                            1.25" magnet and gap X 24 = 30"

                            also found by trial

                            9.6" X 3.14 PIE = 30"

                            That is all for now, next we will need to look at the core area
                            and also the gap between magnet and core. Also remember that
                            the magnet holders might be used to shield so the magnets sitting
                            next to one another are not interacting with one another all of the
                            time. The goal is to have North and South pole magnets interacting
                            with core and coil only.

                            Think about how strong those bad boys are then look at the fields
                            as they lay by each other WITHOUT shielding, then add shielding.

                            Metal shielding can also redirect flux for a greater concentration
                            on one side, the side we are working with, unless of course you
                            want a double open end and that is fine. More possibilities later
                            as they all come to mind.

                            Last edited by BroMikey; 02-06-2016, 01:12 AM.


                            • #29
                              Hello Experimenters

                              I have updated the diagram. In this installment I am running
                              basic math for reference in the future.

                              First the diagram look at the left side point A and B

                              The points A and B represent the distance that the rotor
                              will travel in 1 mSec @ 1800RPM here is how to reach that

                              First we need the circumference at the center of the magnets
                              measured in INCHES. Since the diameter at the center of the
                              magnets is 9.6" we use PIE (3.14) X 9.6" = 30" Approx.

                              So using 30" around the circle for 1 rotation, at 1800 rotations
                              or 1800 RPM'S is 30" X 1800 = 54,000 inches of travel in 1 minute.

                              1 Minute = 60 sec so we can divide 54,000" by 60 sec and this
                              gives us the number of inches the rotor travels per second

                              54,000 / 60 = 900" per second. So what about milliseconds?
                              Well 1 second = 1000 milliseconds and if we want
                              to figure out how far the rotor can travel in 1 mSec we divide

                              Remember it was 900" per second? So divide 900 by 1000mSec
                              and this equals .9" @ one speed of 1800 revolutions per minute.

                              AT 1800RPM"S the 11" rotor will travel .9" in 1 mSec from point
                              A to point B at the left. If our core area that faces the
                              round rotor magnets is about 3/4" square as it travels from
                              point A to B this is about the time that it takes for one magnet
                              to loose it's influence on the core while the next magnet is
                              coming into full force.

                              This is about 1 mSec between magnetic poles @ 1800 RPM'S is
                              this case.

                              We don't want adjacent magnets fighting over the core
                              material, we want them working together.

                              If we use a 1.5" core this being to large the magnets will
                              fight each other for control over the core material and cause
                              heat. If the core area selected is 1/4" there will be a dead
                              zone of non active force that would depend more on momentum
                              as one magnet looses it's influence, waiting for another force to
                              pick it up.

                              It maybe a good lesson for experimenters to use 2 round magnets
                              of North and South as planned for a motor/generator and pass
                              various thickness core material over the area to understand
                              this exercise. Use different spacing and core thickness to
                              achieve an optimized geometry for your design.

                              Backyard experimenting without calculation will result in
                              complete and total failure, leaving 10 such builders wondering
                              why each person had a different result.
                              Last edited by BroMikey; 02-02-2016, 11:25 AM.


                              • #30
                                According to the Thane Heins Patent information special
                                wire must be used and we all know the core material is
                                different than standard generators.

                                Here is one definition of the wire needed.

                                What is Superconductivity?

                                Superconductivity is a phenomenon where some materials exhibit no electrical resistance below certain cryogenic temperatures.

                                Superconducting Wire

                                Superconducting wire is made of superconducting materials which, when cooled below its transition temperature, has zero electrical resistance (see the image to the right). Often the superconductor is in filament form or on a flat metal substrate encapsulated in a copper or aluminum matrix that carries the current should the superconductor quench (rise above critical temperature) for any reason.

                                High Temperature Superconducting (HTS) Wire

                                There are two well-recognized types of high temperature superconducting wire: BSCCO, known as first generation (1G) wire, and ReBCO, known as second generation (2G) wire. ReBCO stands for “Rare earth - Barium - Copper Oxide” for the superconducting compound. BSCCO stands for “Bismuth - Strontium - Calcium - Copper - Oxygen." Each of these processes has been refined over 20 years time and each type of coated conductor has trade-offs. The driving element that classifies each is operating temperature. Most importantly, by significantly reducing the overall system operating temperature HTS device manufacturers can realize power output increases in the magnitude of 10X.

                                First Generation (1G) HTS Wire

                                First Generation (1G) HTS Wire has been commercially available since 1990. During 1G HTS wire manufacturing, the powdered superconductive material fills silver alloy pipes. These are subsequently processed into a multi-filament HTS wire by means of a special rolling technology. The most commonly used materials in early HTS were bismuth-based, specifically Bismuth-Strontium-Calcium-Copper-Oxide (BSCCO - pronounced biss-co). These materials have been used to construct a variety of HTS power devices including transmission cable, transformers, fault current controllers, motors and generators

                                Though 1G HTS wire operated at higher temperatures and addressed the problem of costly cryogenics, the heavy reliance on silver as a raw material made the wire far too expensive to commercially produce. Recent improvements in 1G HTS wire performance has begun to shift this economic fault.

                                Second Generation (2G) HTS Wire

                                A majority of superconducting wire manufacturers are migrating to new Second Generation (2G) HTS materials utilizing Rare Earth, Barium-Copper-Oxide (ReBCO) compounds. 2G HTS materials are recognized as a superior superconductor by offering better performance in a magnetic field and improved mechanical properties - all at lower cost.

                                HTS wire manufactured with 2G HTS technology now surpasses 1G wire in electrical performance but at higher cost. Few Rare Earth compounds are recognized as 2G HTS materials options. The industry currently uses a varying of Rare Earth compounds (Yttrium, Samarium, Neodymium, Gadolinium) with Barium-Copper-Oxide (ReBCO) as the choice materials for HTS wire and HTS devices. Extensive 2G HTS wire technology R&D, pilot production and manufacturing scaling efforts are underway.

                                2G HTS wire offers additional benefits with its unique properties:

                                Unmatched critical current capacity
                                Increased in-field performance
                                Significant cost advantages
                                2G HTS devices are needed today to solve critical challenges in the power grid
                                Increase power capacity
                                Increase efficiency
                                Reduce size, weight and footprint
                                Improve utilization of assets

                                Medium Temperature Superconducting (MTS) Wire

                                HTS wire types using a Magnesium di-Boride (MgB) based process are usually produced by reaction of fine Magnesium and Boron powders, thoroughly mixed together and heated at a temperature around or above the melting point of pure Magnesium (> 600 °C).

                                MgB2 wires and tapes are therefore realized by means of the so-called Powder-In-Tube method (PIT). Thanks to the higher operating temperatures, MgB2 systems can be cooled by modern cryocooling devices. The main competing advantages for MgB2 based HTS wire manufacturing are low cost raw materials and relatively simple deposition techniques.

                                In contrast, MgB2’s low critical temperature (Tc) of 30 Kelvin is limited to applications that operate at lower temperatures (20 K). Low cost continues to be the main driver for MgB2 wire manufacturers.

                                However, because of its relatively simple PIT deposition approach, many believe that MgB2 may in the near term better serve applications like electronics in the form of flexible flat ribbon cables and superconducting cavities for RF applications.

                                MgB2 is a superconducting wire alternative operating at 20K; a temperature between LTS (4K) and HTS (65K)

                                Primary focus for HTS motor and generator applications
                                Price and performance is very attractive
                                Performs very well in high magnetic fields
                                Must operate between 15K to 30K
                                Poor physical properties
                                Cooling costs are more expensive and less reliable than liquid nitrogen
                                Not practical for HTS cable application, although demonstrations are underway

                                Low Temperature Superconducting (LTS) Wire

                                Low Temperature Superconducting (LTS) technology, which operates at liquid helium temperatures (4 Kelvin), was discovered in 1911. This technology became commercially successful in the 1960’s when wire was made from LTS materials for use in superconducting electromagnets. LTS electromagnets create fields that are much stronger than conventional copper based electromagnets.

                                Notably, these state-of the-art LTS electromagnets enabled new technologies like Magnetic Resonance Imaging (MRI) and Nuclear Magnetic Resonance (NMR). LTS superconducting wire is manufactured with Niobium Titanium (Nb-Ti) or Niobium Tin (Nb3Sn) using a powder-in-tube process, embedded in a non-superconducting matrix, such as a silver alloy, somewhat similar to the way traditional wire of copper or aluminum is made. Though LTS wire can be manufactured at costs competitive with copper, LTS devices are very expensive due to the high cost of cryogenic cooling and their reliance on silver. As a result, LTS technology remains quite limited to niche and specialized applications (e.g. Hadron Collider).

                                In 1987, materials were discovered that exhibited superconducting properties at temperatures as high as 90 K. This class of materials was called High Temperature Superconductors or HTS. While this is still very cold, it was a significant breakthrough. These materials could now be cooled by liquid nitrogen which is much easier to work with, more readily available without supply issues and, most importantly, considerably cheaper than liquid helium.

                                This drastic cost reduction in cryogenic systems cost opened new opportunities for superconducting applications. HTS communication devices, Maglev transportation, superconducting power cable and superconducting motors and generators were now economically possible. As with LTS devices, many HTS devices used superconducting wire as a base technology.

                                Features of LTS:

                                Are designed only to operate at 4K – therefore limiting to motor, generator applications
                                Cooling cost and reliability key roadblock to market entry – liquid helium required for cooling (scarce resource)
                                LTS is in full production use in MRI devices and can be scaled to meet demand for new MRI/NMR devices
                                Good in-field performance and strength – 3T to 10T
                                Very cost competitive - excluding cooling cost