Keshe, Fraud, Fraud or super-plasma-coated Fraud?

[RAMSET]

sound of one hand clapping

sooo we need more examples !!

some fellow here mentioned hundreds of replications going on ATM ??
another few would do for the moment.

You gotta work on that constitution Mikey...ain't good to be sooo queezy ,this Biz can eat you up Kiddo.

respectfully
Chet

[BroMikey]

If you all saw the Keshe seminar remember how even the very educated
in the group had to be continually corrected? Keshe kept saying this is
not done with current?

And Zero sort of made fun by saying he wasn't surprised that a certain
compound was not formed because there was no current?

As if current could be the only way to get the job done so Keshe
was put in the light as a liar by Zero as he chuckles.

The belly ache I get when I listen to ZERO does not stem from the
Keshe video although this video did not help my tum tum at all.

I don't trust the myth busters either. To me ZERO is the same thing
always showing a similitude of another mans invention and always
coming up short of the effect while injecting all kinds of comical
slurs.

The guy has multiplied thousands tied up in throw away "TOYS" as
many would refer to these devices as. Rightfully so, most would
say "If Zero can't do it with his piles of money why should I try?"

It is just another form of mind control and that is why my intestinal has
formed a massive abdominal rumble when I watch his 6th grade experiments. I guess my stomach problem just moved
to the lower section. In other words a sick feeling when I watch him.

The effect is right in front of him many times and brushes right over
it because he knows what his fans want to hear.

He doesn't know any better and after telling the people what they want
to hear long enough I suppose they send him $$$ Maybe some
of his old university buddies.

This guy has great wealth, and our free energy quest is suppose to
easy the burden on those who are taken for granted/pushed around
not flushed down the stool by the thousands week after week and year
after year.

[DeLorean]

YEA!!!!!!!!! IT WORKS, IT WORKS!!!!! Thanks Ramset


What is it?

That guy calls the "SSG" a fraud

[RAMSET]

The Mark...

Regarding qualifications ,he is more qualified than most to replicate Keshe's "everyman" technology.[a pack of Gum some paper clips and soda bottles alah McGiver themes.

I personally had never watched anything from this man except a few minutes of a Rocket stove build.
His Keshe Work/replication was pointed out recently .

It would be time better spent to take an alkeseltzer [for your tummy ache] and point out where you feel he misses the mark [although its still a moving target with no real conclusions yet.

or we could just wait till Monday [the Monday morning quarterback syndrome

as for myself ...
I am sincerely grateful for his efforts ,and any others brought to these pages with similar transparency and honesty.
just one mans opinion.

Respectfully
Chet

[BroMikey]

ZERO always comes up with a zero. He is doing the best of his
ability yes. A blue collar worker playing with gadgets. Zero
hardly ever has anything to say in favor of the possibilities
of getting energy from the vacuum.

It is just a hobby so he jumps all around to many things and somewhere
he comes up with 10's of thousands on a monthly basis. He is being
funded by who knows who.

He plays all of his video like it's all just a fun thing, so cool and then he
sets up another thousand dollar test. Then on to another few thousand
bucks for another built. He has 100's of thousands tied up in what he
says is just something he always wanted to do for his reason.

I am sorry , something just does not add up with this guy and I get
a sick feeling whenever I am under the sound of his voice. I have
to turn him off.

With my head I say he is doing his best, with my gut I am in pain.

In the beginning I listened to many of his videos with an open mind
to see the conclusion of his so called experiments. Over time I learned
that overall he makes fun of free energy claims. All of his video's
are completely explainable and shows how the inventors always
missed their mark. This is where ZERO comes in to explain it all
away.

This is the generally consensuses of ZERO video's "A BIG FAT ZERO"

While he posses as a good hearted plain clothes man with 100's of
thousands to prove out any invention shooting for ZEROFOSSILFUEL
somewhere in the lives of his great great great grand children .
Say 200 years from now the way he going.

Yet to this date all he has is a solar panel to show for.

I don't buy it. Just my view nothing personal guys.

[Ernst]

I am glad to see these responses.
When I am reading the stuff of Keshe and his followers, I loose my faith in humanity and start believing that we are all doomed to imbecility. I would almost welcome the extermination plans of "the elite".
The posts here restore some of my faith.



And to all those who are so desirous to believe, let's just wait until we see the first working reactor. Even Keshe himself has failed to show us one.
I agree with Ramset, that the zero-guy seems to be a serious and trustworthy researcher who tries to the best of his ability to either prove or disprove Keshe. Let's wait for his results instead of running to the stores for caustic soda and copper wires.



Ernst.

[RAMSET]

Video Title #421 Keshe Plasma Reactors up & running!

Dave
Its in Zero's tittle

#421 Keshe Plasma Reactors up & running!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrBUoxLbg9c

***IMPORTANT UPDATE*** 10/30/2015 After numerous troubles keeping the reactors balanced and sealed from fluid leakage I have decided to redesign them slightly. I'm so confident the new design will hold up well that I posted it to Thingiverse at Keshe Plasma Reactor sphere 40mm by ZeroFossilFuel - Thingiverse I am now also going to electroplate the interiors with about 0.5mm thickness copper then nano coat them with the caustic method, PRECISELY conforming to the original design. While my copper vapor deposition looked cool, it may not have the correct properties. This will be a 100% authentic replication with no deviation. Sourcing the electroplating materials now. Should be a few more days before they arrive and a couple of weeks before they are back in service.

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I believe Zero is doing his absolute best to investigate this claim.
and I am certain all reading here applaud his efforts.

respectfully
Chet
PS
To @Ben
your Quote
"did you see Zero's website"
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Ben
Do you see Zero doing a tried and true replication to the best of his ability ?
you have posted old quotes not current events.

this replication is his most recent take on Keshe and is quite sincere and unbiased .
and in My opinion would qualify as a good independent 3rd party claim of this work [I just hope he's "believing" while he builds !:'}]

[Web000x]

YEA!!!!!!!!! IT WORKS, IT WORKS!!!!! Thanks Ramset


What is it?

That guy calls the "SSG" a fraud

What works?

[Ben2503]

YEA!!!!!!!!! IT WORKS, IT WORKS!!!!! Thanks Ramset


What is it?

That guy calls the "SSG" a fraud

Did you check Zero's website?News and current events for Alternative Energy research by Zero Fossil Fuel - Hydrogen, Solar, Wind
this is what he writes:

Keshe

Is Mr. Keshe everything that he claims? Does he really have and understand technologies that will completely transform humanity as he is boldly claiming? Or is he vying to become one of the greatest bull****ters of all time? Or even worse, a wolf in sheeps clothing?

I am certain people here are going to criticize me for making this comment. It will likely also be edited (if not discarded altogether) by the forum censors. And so, if this post does end up being censored or discarded, let it be known that there are people here who have had enough of nothing more than lip service and excuses.

There is no doubt that Mr. Keshe is a very intelligent man. He is also a marvellous philosopher. We all want to believe what he is preaching and that the technologies he is claiming actually exist. However, his talents and philosophies also make him perfectly suited to be the ultimate conman for those who desire what he preaches so deeply that they will believe anyone making such bold claims.

The fact remains, extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proof. And the fact is, we have yet to see any evidence that his technology actually exists, let alone incontrovertible evidence. We also have not seen any working replications of his designs as he claims have been made by groups around the globe. Why would they not come forward? I certainly would. All we have is the word of an Iranian citizen who set up his base of operations in Belgium, who has stated he has no interest in dual citizenship, distributing his "technology" via USB sticks to foreign embassies.

Suppose for a moment that this man is sympathetic to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Do you suppose that Ahmadinejad has forgotten the way viruses were planted in computers used at his uranium enrichment facilities for the production of nuclear weapons, crippling them for a time? Can you think of any better way to exact revenge than to get nations around the globe to accept USB devices with as yet unknown, and therefore undetectable trojan payloads triggered at his command, distributed by an honest and trustworthy figure such as our Mr. Keshe here?

First and foremost, I would urge any embassy that has accepted this "gift" to treat it as they would any time bomb. Secondly, I am tired of words. It is time for Mr. Keshe to put up or shut up. Fish or cut bait. Piss or get off the pot. Or any number of other colourful phrases that may apply.

Peace and good will to all men.

Z



Related Links

[BroMikey]

here is a good fellow to watch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrBUoxLbg9c

Chet

YEA!!!!!!!!! IT WORKS, IT WORKS!!!!! Thanks Ramset


What is it?

That guy calls the "SSG" a fraud

[boguslaw]

Hubbard coil is the same as McFarland coils combined with some additional coil to close-loop.

I believe Keshe is a way to control the market in the manner "we have all rights to technology and you must buy from us the magic ingredient"

[editor]

Hi, Delorean

Well I didn't replicate the Keshe device, that's why I don't write here if it works or not. But if I don't understand how it works because they didn't teach me in the school it doesn't mean it's not working.
We are all waiting for the first replication on the net for some results.
I guess I reply you question, I'm done here. Going to the workshop do to some real work!

br, d

If I take an Ankh (symbol for eternal life) and put it in line with the mains supply and tell you that after some time it will reduce your power consumption from 1% to 99% after some years. would you, editor, dare to replicate my device?

if yes - why?
if no -why not?

[DeLorean]

Hello Ernst!

Did you build the device? Or what is the point off your negative posts?
Is the earth flat, you can die if you go faster then 60km/h because you
can't breathe....

br, e

If I take an Ankh (symbol for eternal life) and put it in line with the mains supply and tell you that after some time it will reduce your power consumption from 1% to 99% after some years. would you, editor, dare to replicate my device?

if yes - why?
if no -why not?

[editor]

Hello Ernst!

Did you build the device? Or what is the point off your negative posts?
Is the earth flat, you can die if you go faster then 60km/h because you
can't breathe....

br, e

[dragon]

Before completely dismissing the BS created by Keshe think of the coatings not as "superconductors" but as semiconductors, particularly the use of copper oxide over a dielectric layer of the so called "nano coating" process.

The Keshe project caught my curiosity because I've worked in the area of chemical diodes using some of the same materials and coatings. You can learn more about these coatings by looking up copper oxide and it's uses.

You can look into the Stark and Zeeman effect as well as an Exciton....

The coils are based on a Russian reactor and I found it quite interesting that the diameter ( inside and outside ) of both coil sets are based on Phi - inner coil inside diameter is Phi, the outside diameter of the same coil is Phi x 2. The outer coils inner diameter is Phi^2 and outside diameter is Phi^3. The lengths would suggest a 3.5 to 7 Ghz range of operation with an interesting range of Phi harmonics.

I'm not trying to defend the keshe design in that it works or not, only pointing out some interesting things I've found based on some prior work I've done in this area and how it relates to what keshe appears to be doing. I plan to follow along even if there is no other reason except to refine my skills and knowledge of the doping process used to create a semiconducting diode coating. Maybe there is more there than I'm seeing at the moment and more will become of it - maybe not... either way I come out ahead in my research...