I just disproved ken wheelers magnet theories

[Ufopolitics]

Ferrocell Lens..

Please explain in simple and kind words, how a bowl shaped magnetic field is formed in space.
Thanks,
Ben

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You could see the cube magnet in above pic from Ken's Book...

Or Three Cubes attached from Timm's site (FerrocellUSA)

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You could move the magnet around to see the 3D properties of field...

You could also make magnetic interactions with ferrous materials or other magnets...etc...to see how the bowl shaped spectrum is flexible, elastic and deforms under such presence...

The higher the Neo's strength the better the resolution once the cell develops the full magnetic spectrum.

In those videos the 3D CGI about both fields "bowls" does not reflect the spiral shape of each bowl's lines ...like the ferrocell shows.


Something more like shown below in CGI:

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Regards


Ufopolitics

[Ufopolitics]

Stupidity at its Max Output...

magnetic induction direction should be perpendicular to any dielectric induction field.

It took one experiment to prove that there is not electrostatic induction field
with a magnet. when I did those experiments the scale you saw on the o scope was 50 mv per division.

This Thread should be closed by now...end...finito...you never proved absolutely nada.

The Dielectric Field -as I have detailed and shown from Ken's Book- is a COUNTERSPATIAL, CENTRIPETAL, INWARDS, TERMINATING AT THE VERY CENTER OF EVERY SINGLE MAGNET...

And NOT expelled, projected, disbursed...OUTWARDS.

The Dielectric Field in every magnet is just the 'cause' while the field is the "final destination product"...as it provides the outward (centrifugal) and inward (centripetal) paths for both magnetic fields spiraling flows for each polarized ends.

But maybe you can not even grasp the above sentence...written in plain English...

But obviously -like I wrote before- you are either so dumb and stupid...that never read that, or never retained long enough in your small brain, or could not "process it"...or maybe you are just looking for people to get to know who you are (exposure, sensationalism, etc)...However, you've chosen a way of "advertisement" that is very, but very sad and poor method to do so.

[Ufopolitics]

Originally Posted by ldrancer
you've used that copyright which is you thinking you deserve money, this topic your treating it bromikey as if though its dumb. and so has everyone else. what ever.

I don't think you are dumb, NO!!!

Mikey, do you really think Idrancer is NOT dumb?...because I'm FUC*ING sure he is...

Just look at the way he writes man...is not even worth to pay attention to that "thing"...


Take care


Ufopolitics

[Ufopolitics]

Experiments?!

Without experiments you need to have numbers to hang your theories on. Until then ken is just a angry photographer.

I am now, sure...you've never read Ken's Book...or may be you did...but, the material/data did not stayed long enough in your limited brain.

Why?, simple, there are so many experiments in that book...oh, but wait a minute...some are called "Toys" by you, right?

Timm Vanderelli is the Patent Owner for the Ferrocell...a "toy" according to you...that can reveal the magnetic field in 3D and High Def. resolution.

Thanks to Ken Wheeler I got to know Timm, and ordered a few kits for my -under development- work on magnetism...

And we exchanged many info...

[Ufopolitics]

Prove Faith...

Dear UFO

You're 100% right about that. I really can't follow Ken's reasoning.
When I read his book or listen to him in his videos I feel I am back in church as a young boy with my parents. All these people repeating quotes from a book I didn't understand and felt like brainwashing to me.
I am sorry my ignorance makes you sad, I couldn't please the priests either, probably because I always insisted on some kind of proof and wasn't going to believe anything simply because it was in some kind of "holy" book.

Dear Ben,

When I first read your post above -a while back till now that I get to respond- the first thing that came to my mind was a very interesting segment-dialogue from the movie Contact, based on the book from someone I admire much: Carl Sagan.

Dr. Eleanor "Ellie" Arroway (Jodie Foster) is talking to the Priest chosen to be representative part of the Board ( Matthew McConaughey) ...where she is the "typical" scientist...very "materialist"...does not really believe in GOD...her excuses are very "scientific"..."There is no proof God exists..."

Like all Scientists on this Planet...only believe in what could be felt, tested and proved.

Then the Priest ask her: Do You love your Father?...(who died when she was a girl..)

She answers without hesitation a secure and firm "yes, of course"...

Then the Priest replies:

PROVE IT!!

The thing is...We can not prove "Faith"...or love for someone that is gone, or no longer exist...or can't see or feel...except by dropping some flowers at the cemetery...that will probably last a few hours...right?

I sincerely hope you will surprise us all.

Take care.
Ben

You know...so many times I have asked myself: Is it worth it?

Do we all deserve it?

But then only one single thing answers and tells me :Yes...and that is "Faith"...faith in humanity.

Faith in God.


Regards


Ufopolitics

[mikrovolt]

This is a mechanical device outputting a light effect.
If only I could make something to demonstrate an idea I have.

This sharing would comes under fire but form and function usually has some relationship.

This video the fabricator has a clever device.
I see two motors and two perpendicular orbital axis with adjustable rates.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PbD_3nKGGs

making a particular shape... how... very carefully

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=CjTOegBTSV0#t=62

[Ben2503]

bowl magnets

Dude

You are living in the stone-age, here check out this video where the big
boys talk astrophysics that even a child can follow. That's I like it.

Listen to him say a few minutes into the presentation that magnetism
needs to be better understood or we can not understand the rest of the
creation.

Of course the text books won't be updated because the gov would
have to burn all THEIR books and start from scratch.

Besides, who wants to run around like a doggy between it's tail?

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EPlyiW-xGI[/VIDEO]


[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NogyJ0k8Kw[/VIDEO]

Please explain in simple and kind words, how a bowl shaped magnetic field is formed in space.
Thanks,
Ben

[Ben2503]

Dogma

Dear UFO

Hello to All,

It is very sad to observe that must of members participating on this Thread do not clearly understand Ken's Theories.

Ufopolitics

You're 100% right about that. I really can't follow Ken's reasoning.
When I read his book or listen to him in his videos I feel I am back in church as a young boy with my parents. All these people repeating quotes from a book I didn't understand and felt like brainwashing to me.
I am sorry my ignorance makes you sad, I couldn't please the priests either, probably because I always insisted on some kind of proof and wasn't going to believe anything simply because it was in some kind of "holy" book.

Hello to All,

It is very sad to observe that must of members participating on this Thread do not clearly understand Ken's Theories.


I have TWO MAIN REASONS why I defend this Theory like I do...but unfortunately -at this time- I can NOT reveal them yet...sorry.

Since "Extraordinary Claims require Extraordinary Proof"...the later is the stage where I am actually now, "Building" to prove beyond doubt all this so called "theories" are nothing but the hidden truth for more than Two Centuries.

...and it is not about simple and silly experiments...but the building of clever Machines that work based on those "theories".

Ufopolitics

I sincerely hope you will surprise us all.

Take care.
Ben

[microwatt]

So now your resorting to distractions. why can't we focus on the subject here and that is kens theories.

BTW these primer fields do not scale.

Dude

You are living in the stone-age, here check out this video where the big
boys talk astrophysics that even a child can follow. That's I like it.

Listen to him say a few minutes into the presentation that magnetism
needs to be better understood or we can not understand the rest of the
creation.

Of course the text books won't be updated because the gov would
have to burn all THEIR books and start from scratch.

Besides, who wants to run around like a doggy between it's tail?

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EPlyiW-xGI[/VIDEO]


[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NogyJ0k8Kw[/VIDEO]

[BroMikey]

Without experiments you need to have numbers to hang your theories on. Until then ken is just a angry photographer.

Dude

You are living in the stone-age, here check out this video where the big
boys talk astrophysics that even a child can follow. That's I like it.

Listen to him say a few minutes into the presentation that magnetism
needs to be better understood or we can not understand the rest of the
creation.

Of course the text books won't be updated because the gov would
have to burn all THEIR books and start from scratch.

Besides, who wants to run around like a doggy between it's tail?

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EPlyiW-xGI[/VIDEO]


[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NogyJ0k8Kw[/VIDEO]

[microwatt]

Without experiments you need to have numbers to hang your theories on. Until then ken is just a angry photographer.

[BroMikey]

you've used that copyright which is you thinking you deserve money, this topic your treating it bromikey as if though its dumb. and so has everyone else. what ever.

I don't think you are dumb, NO!!! But I think you and others
are first not qualified to examine advanced theories based on
the original theories you have never learned.

I am not that qualified either. What I do know is that we have
been lied to by the government powers who fly around in
anti-gravity crafts hiding the truth of the UFO propulsion
systems.

Gravity/Magnetism. I never say you or anyone else was incapable
just "dumbed down" in Government schools. "Dumbed down" by
the controllers in universities. Not all the truth, just the truth the
controllers are willing to permit you to have.

"Dumbed Down" is a phrase circulating the worldwide web.

The following comment? I rest my case. IT'S A NO BRAINER.

[ldrancer]

if you cant explain it, don't make any more topics. and of course once you've used that copyright which is you thinking you deserve money, instead of sharing ideas with everyone, then you still definately at that point, with your fake reasons, wont reveal how anything works. and im sure it wont work. it wont be any more productive than the gasoline engine. to switch to another source of power now instead of oil, which the us government tries to push their monopoly on everywhere, because of the selling of it for the fiat currency, it will only be when they can use you to tax it with. they use the fiat currencty to tax you with for the oil. and once they can tax you for other means of power, and make it less efficient, sell the idea off as, GREEN, then theyll let inventions show.

this invention willonly be based on, oil, being taxed for it, or something else i just forgot about. but thats my point.


oh hang on, I htink i was goign to say, green inefficient, and youll sell it off as the idea of non-polluting, and better. instead am i right? first you gotta get the governmnet permissions, get your degrees which, prove nothing, your permits your approvals, proves nothing. then youll show those off instead of any hint of knowledge besides what already was and has been invented and stiffled for a long time.

dont make topics if you cant even vouche for them. you cant defend a single idea on them. you can't teach anything. this topic your treating it bromikey as if though its dumb. and so has everyone else. what ever.

[BroMikey]

i hope you get busted pretending your doing it.

this isnt nothing but space time in another wording. there are so many fake theories on stuff, and they all go straight back to space-time.

the whole line that electricity doesnt go into magnetism it .. Electricity terminates AS magnetism , not INTO magnetism

is circular logic and ive never seen this not be that.

you dress up as dracula. oh you put yoru mask on and you turn, INTOOO dracula.

so your saying you pretend and its real. see, this is bull crap. you'll never prove anything and I hope you get busted trying to prove this since you BLEIEVE you can and wont share it at this time but feel the need to tell everyone something you cant prove. building? nothing else to do but post to a forum? who cares? oh wait i see you need money for it. and cant work go find it and do it. yea. thats the joke all the scam artists have.


get busted.

im tired of listening to you guys and if you had anythign to prove youd do it.

How can we explain science under development to a mental midge.

You must first have the desire to learn in this area of research and have
sampled the doctrines of the age to make any judgements based on the
new evidence.

I am sorry but you poor fellows have not only shown yourselves to
be disqualified but are out right void of reason. This has been the case
in ever very simple setups.

There is no way on earth the dumbed down masses can decide much
of anything that they were never meant to see.

It is like trying to build a race car without a lathe or any machine tools.

It is hopeless for most of you to judge this matter. Stick to what you
were gifted to do and stop thinking that it is your place to know
everything. You can leave that to me.

No really, I don't understand everything, that's for sure and I'll be the
first to admit it but I am not going to try to set my self up as judge
unless I at least read the material under review.

That is what you folks are doing, with your made up minds.

Read 68 and when you are done use those same terms to contradict
Ken's theories. The problem is none of you can read the terminolgy
fluently let alone speak this higher understanding.

Come back in 40 years after you upgrade your 2 or 3 doctorates.

[ldrancer]

i hope you get busted pretending your doing it.

this isnt nothing but space time in another wording. there are so many fake theories on stuff, and they all go straight back to space-time.

the whole line that electricity doesnt go into magnetism it .. Electricity terminates AS magnetism , not INTO magnetism

is circular logic and ive never seen this not be that.

you dress up as dracula. oh you put yoru mask on and you turn, INTOOO dracula.

so your saying you pretend and its real. see, this is bull crap. you'll never prove anything and I hope you get busted trying to prove this since you BLEIEVE you can and wont share it at this time but feel the need to tell everyone something you cant prove. building? nothing else to do but post to a forum? who cares? oh wait i see you need money for it. and cant work go find it and do it. yea. thats the joke all the scam artists have.


get busted.

im tired of listening to you guys and if you had anythign to prove youd do it.